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I’ve been offered a plug in hybrid as a replacement for my new company car,
the BMW 530e
It will save me around £200 a month on company car tax so it’s a no brainer on that side of things ..
I do however have an issue with charging it at home... in the simple fact that I can’t!
So I’d be using the 2 litre petrol engine most the time. My current company car is a deisel which I get around 40mpg out of, mainly because most of my work is motorway miles .
If I use this new car with the petrol engine only , will I be seeing silly mpg much lower than 40, or will it be relatively similar to what I’m getting from my current diesel?
Can you charge it at work ?
Similar situation here, my 330e arrived in a few weeks, but I;ve arranged for an electrician to put an outside socket in at home.
Some good reading here :-
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=247&t=1562704&i=0
Anywhere between 35-40 if you drive carefully enough.
Seems pointless getting a PHEV if you can't charge it anywhere.... IMO.
Check this link out, should help.
https://www.honestjohn.co.uk/realmpg/bmw/5-series-g30-2017/530e
I asked the same thing about the Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV a couple of weeks ago and despite having access to charging at both work and home, I bought the diesel one instead.
Golf here, when I’ve ran out of charge and had to use petrol only I get around 57mpg depending on the driving.
Perchy most told you avoid the Mitsubishi PHEV as it’s shite.
Perchy most told you avoid the Mitsubishi PHEV as it’s shite.
Which is why I didn't buy one.
The diesel one I did buy is suiting me fine though. It ticks all my boxes, was immaculate with ultra low mileage and was an unbelievable bargain.
Yeah I recall you saying it was between the 2.
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Golf here, when I’ve ran out of charge and had to use petrol only I get around 57mpg depending on the driving.
You sure? That's bloody good going. Is it the instant readout, or a real journey average
Client of ours had one - they got 16 miles out of full charge but as they plugged it into the roof at home and only drove to the wholesaler and back which was about five miles away it was win win for them.
You sure? That’s bloody good going. Is it the instant readout, or a real journey average
Positive it comes up on the journey end and on car net. It uses the 1.4 TSi engine so is pretty economical.
Been awhile since it ran out but found one from when the wife couldn’t get on a charger at work.
On the motorway with no battery charge I avg about 45mpg doing about 80 mph in my 330e. It is actually a very economical petrol unit.
In towns this would drop significantly to high 20's - 30's but that is purely town driving.
Overall in reality you will probably see similar to your diesel or very slightly better.
Have you driven one yet? You simply wont go back to diesel again! The petrol engine is near silent and the electric is just so nice around town.
+ together they make for ridiculous performance, and they are lovely cars.
Had a quick skim of the specs; seems to indicate some form of battery charging while driving, so not being able to plug in very often isn't as much of a limitation as it may sound if that's the case.
You're also likely to occasionally find a car park with charging facilities when you're out and about.
If the tax saving is 200 quid a month just for taking this option, then the question is, are you going to spend 200 quid more a month by taking this option over another.
Had a quick skim of the specs; seems to indicate some form of battery charging while driving, so not being able to plug in very often isn’t as much of a limitation as it may sound if that’s the case.
Yes you can set it to charge at any point using the ICE. But mpg drops to approx. 20-25mpg to do this. You may recoup this by recharging on a motorway, knowing that you are going in to a town where there will be lots of start stop driving, but I would thought the chances of the cost of charging off the ICE v mpg saved in town would be next to zero.
Certainly I never bother charging mine this way, its just better to use ICE.
On the motorway with no battery charge I avg about 45mpg doing about 80 mph in my 330e.
Speeding?
#naughty
Yes you can set it to charge at any point using the ICE. But mpg drops to approx. 20-25mpg to do this. You may recoup this by recharging on a motorway, knowing that you are going in to a town where there will be lots of start stop driving, but I would thought the chances of the cost of charging off the ICE v mpg saved in town would be next to zero.
Certainly I never bother charging mine this way, its just better to use ICE.
Hm, sounds a bit crap then, My brothers been driving (non-plugin) Toyota Hybrids for years and generally gets 60mpg which includes regenerative braking and charging off the ICE during driving.
A mate had a Volvo PHEV which got us from the Pier at Leverburgh (where there's a charger) to Geocrab and back without turning the ICE on.
Hm, sounds a bit crap then,
Well no. Your saving a fortune on BIK, and no disrespect, it isn’t a Toyota.
Your getting an incredibly fast car which is fantastic to drive, quiet and refined too
You wouldn’t get me near a Toyota
You wouldn’t get me near a Toyota
Why?
Too quick for you????
I've had a 330e for about 20k miles. I regularly do a 500 mile round trip starting with a full charge and not charging at the other end.
It averages around 45 mpg on this run. I find using save mode when travelling around 50 mph will charge the battery quite quickly without affecting fuel consumption too much.
In town it can drop to mid twenties in rush hour, though I can generally get to and from the office (14 miles) on one charge easily in warmer weather but in cold weather range drops a lot quicker. Also uses about 20% of the charge if you precondition so the car is nicely defrosted and warm for when you leave for work.
For me the bik savings against my old 520d made it an easy choice. I also pay and claim for business miles, so whilst I could get early 50's from the 520d I only got paid 11p per mile but 14p on the 330e. So less economic but I actually make more money back.
Also the 250bhp made the decision easy, it is a very quick car and petrol engine much smoother, electric only is quite addictive as well.
Chris
Ok back home after a course where I had chance to test it on the way back.
My charge ran out as it used what was left running in traffic for a few miles so came back about 90% the way on petrol. What I noticed was despite zero charge it will still use the electric on hybrid mode for cruising when on a slight slope or going downhill which helps boost the economy. If I was stick it in battery hold mode I reckon it would drop to low 40s.
Result journey out to the course was 128mpg hybrid mode and coming back 60.1 mpg which was hybrid but with zero charge for as I say 90% of the journey, mainly dual carriageway.
My current company car is a deisel which I get around 40mpg out of, mainly because most of my work is motorway miles .
That sounds really poor for a diesel car. What is it ?
I get way more than 40mpg on motorway trips in our fully loaded 18 year old diesel Camper van 😳