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I've just been informed by #2 son that he stuck a crayon up his nose today at school and has managed to push it so far up he can't reach it anymore.

I've had a good look up there (joystick mk7, nice tight 😆 beam...) but can't see much of anything. I've gotten him to blow through just that nostril really hard but apart from some random lumps of snot and a lot of air, nothing has shifted.

I'm loathe to take him to the emergency medical place (60 quid, 4 hour wait) or the A&E (£125, 50min drive ew, 10 min wait) as he appears quite ok.

Any other tips/tricks that might work and as he appears relatively unbothered (He's sad that he's having to sleep with it up his nose) can it wait until morning (when it's just £50 and a 20min wait).

Cheers!


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 8:57 pm
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That's got appropriate for A&E (preferably with an ENT dept next door) written all over it. Bummer that you have to pay.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:00 pm
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Why would you NOT go to a&e?

Seriously its not worth the risk.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:02 pm
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When did they start charging?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:04 pm
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If it was me I couldn't sleep until he was right... I'd have him down there in a flash.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:05 pm
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Shame it's not a peanut as the solution is to pour chocolate up the nose and it comes out a treat.
I'm here all week. Hope you sort it out.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:05 pm
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When did they start charging?
Presumably, when they realised that they weren't in the UK? (10 minute wait would also be a strong clue 😆 )


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:07 pm
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Id be heading to A and E.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:07 pm
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If you were a mathematician you could work it out with a pencil


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:08 pm
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Presumably, an engineer would use a hammer, then?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:11 pm
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Yeah, sorry - I'm in Ireland.

Have phoned local emergency place and just waiting on a nurse to phone me back, receptionist thinks I might have to drive to the A+E.

I knew I should have gotten her a bloody cat instead 😉

Thanks for the amusing replies too - I'm a chemical engineer so I've been looking for some flanged pipe and 30 gallons of caustic soda.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:21 pm
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My nephew once stuck a nosecone from a 1/72 scale Hasegawa F4 Phantom up his nose (he mustv'e thought it was a cone for his nose)
That took some getting out.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:25 pm
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Haahah!


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:29 pm
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Giant centrifuge?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:29 pm
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Off to A+E we go, have just discovered that as he's under 6 the treatment is free.

which is nice.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:36 pm
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He either has a massive nose or it was a tiny crayon no?

Impressive. Hope it comes out ok. Then get him to start charging for his act


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:36 pm
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I'm in Ireland

That explains everything - the charging for medical care [i]and[/i] the crayon stuck up the nose.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:50 pm
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Posted : 15/02/2016 9:52 pm
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My ex GF's son once put some dry spaghetti in his ear cos it was itchy. It snapped off & had to go to ENT in Sunderland to remove it.
That was on my Dad's 80th birthday party night. 😕


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:52 pm
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Was it a green one?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:54 pm
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Give him a couple of wax on the back of the head?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 9:58 pm
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I got a phone call at work from my son's school telling me he had managed to get the clicky top from a ballpoint stuck in his ear. I therefore blagged an hour off and collected him from school to run him to casualty. They were very kind and soon had it out using forceps. He was very brave and hardly made any fuss at all, even when the nurses took the piss. He was in yr 11, 6'1" and an 18 stone county prop...... 😀


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:04 pm
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Get it out ASAP or this could be the result


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:12 pm
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I can't grasp the concept of 'I've got a kid with a crayon up his nose but it'll cost me money to sort it out - give me a suggestion of how I can do it for free because his health isn't as important as my money'.

But then I'm me and you are you.

Edit, pity him when he's a bit older.

Christ on a bike.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:16 pm
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Well, I think I can beat this.

When I was 20 and in a student house, the industrial type fire alarm became stuck on and remained on even when we turned off the power. The landlord was a good couple of hour's drive away so rather than endure 120dB I decided to stick tissue in my ear.

Hours later, fire alarm stopped. Tissue didn't want to come out. Helpful housemate suggests water to shift it. Tissue disintegrates and sticks to my ear drum. Cue six hour wait in A&E, not one but two registrars who couldn't shift it and then them having to wake up the on call consultant ENT guy and get him in to have a look (about 4am by this point).

And I was entirely sober too.

My left ear has never been the same :-/


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:35 pm
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Good news/bad news...

Bad news is the private medical A+E won't take him as they don't have the equipment.

Good news (for me) is the wife is going to take him to the regular A+E as she can't sleep from worry.

Bad news is that it is her B'day today and the last time we at the regular A+E there it took over a day for results to come back in.

Get over yourself Johndoh - Read the OP again, I was asking if I needed to "block up" an accident and emergency place when the patient appears fine, i.e. could it wait until morning, giving all the info for making the decision.

If it had appeared serious I wouldn't have bothered to post on here asking for advice and would be breaking the speed limit heading up towards the hospital.

According to the local emergency place and my private medical nurse it IS a serious matter and he's on his way.

Where the **** do I say that my money is more ****ing important than his health? ****.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:38 pm
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What happened to homer when they took out the crayon?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:41 pm
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Your son is Ralph Wiggum. Teach him this trick and save yourself a drive


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 10:43 pm
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Quality thread. Fancy having to pay for A&E? What sort of a union is this?


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 11:40 pm
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If they are stuck for ideas at A&E.

Track pump up unblocked nostril,plug all other non nostril orifices.

splonk


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 11:47 pm
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You could try pressing the good nostril shut and blowing into his mouth. I am not a doctor etc etc, but a GP friend told me to do it at a family party when my daughter stuck some apple up her nose. Flew out no problem. Was rather gross though.


 
Posted : 15/02/2016 11:57 pm
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Shame it's not a peanut as the solution is to pour chocolate up the nose and it comes out a treat.
I'm here all week. Hope you sort it out.

My little sister stuck a peanut up her nose when she was about two, but didn't tell anyone. It had gone up into her sinuses and eventually started to rot. At some point the rancid smell that followed her was traced to her nostrils, and so off to A&E we went. I was too young to remember, but my folks reckon everyone in the room was practically sick on the spot at the stench when the doc pulled the slimy brown remains from her nose 😯


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 12:02 am
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Hope he gets sorted.

Anyone else laughing at the irony of Johndoh's post, he who can't take a shit without asking on here?


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 12:09 am
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What happened to homer when they took out the crayon?

He got really clever, hated it and shoved a crayon back up there!


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 10:18 am
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When I was seven I managed to get a green wax crayon stuck up my nose, pretending it was snot and sniffed it back up. No amount of blowing or picking would bring it back down so I was carted of to A & E who had some long scissor type tweezers which whipped it out in no time.
Not the only daft thing I have been guilty of.


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 10:57 am
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Was it green when it went in, or only when it came out?


 
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Anyone else laughing at the irony of Johndoh's post, he who can't take a shit without asking on here?

Isn't he the guy who whacked his kids in the face with his old chap? I was just wondering if that or a crayon is more damaging in the long run.


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 11:12 am
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As a kid (young enough that I don't remember it) I got one of the foam beads that are used to fill beanbags stuck up my nose. Had to have a general anaesthetic for them to get it out.


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 11:27 am
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Since my cancer treatment on my neck I have regular check ups when they stick an endoscope up my nose to have a look at the site of the cancer in my throat. Apart from making my eyes water it's not too bad.
Any chance the crayon could have gone right through?


 
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[quote=Saccades ]Bad news is the private medical A+E won't take him as they don't have the equipment.
Good news (for me) is the wife is going to take him to the regular A+E as she can't sleep from worry.

So you were quoting private costs in the OP, and there is still a normal free A&E available? (genuine question, I've no idea how healthcare works in Ireland)

the last time we at the regular A+E there it took over a day for results to come back in.

With a kid? Clearly it's all sorted now, but my experience of taking kids to hospital is that you tend to get prioritised, I doubt the wait would be huge.

If it had appeared serious I wouldn't have bothered to post on here asking for advice and would be breaking the speed limit heading up towards the hospital.

I think the reaction from some people is because it's obviously (to them) serious - no criticism intended.

I think it was a peanut I shoved up my nose when I was a kid - extracted in A&E.


 
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Shame it's not a peanut as the solution is to pour chocolate up the nose and it comes out a treat. I'm here all week. Hope you sort it out.

Proppalol (no that's not a medical or chemical treatment for OP's problem)


 
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"ah the old Crayola Oblongata"
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Anyone else laughing at the irony of Johndoh's post, he who can't take a shit without asking on here?


You're a bad mod Mr Drac! Very baaaaaad.


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 1:24 pm
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Wow. Just wow.


 
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This is a good place to consider what kind of parent you might want to be going forwards. My Mum chose the approach which stood her in good stead throughout those troubled years of childhood, youth, young adulthood by simply putting her head in the sand and refusing to believe there was a dried pea up my nostril. It came out on its own some days later. Me, bitter?


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 1:53 pm
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Missus and nipper got back at 3am this morning (so 3 hour wait mid-week).

Doctor had a good look around with an endoscope and whilst they could find blue crayon colour right up his nose and a lot of bruising etc the actual lump of crayon has not been discovered. So it either fell out at some point during the day or he swallowed it.

He thanked the staff for their time though when they had done (missus apologised as she felt she had wasted their time).

@Aracer:

In Ireland you pay for everything unless you have a medical card (very low income/unemployed and only if your medical bills are over 200 a month I think). Normally a bill arrives through the post a few days after treatment - generally 100quid or so for simple stuff. 1 day on a drip and several blood tests cost 1200 quid. Last year my nipper was in Isolation for 3 days with a bug and it cost just shy of 5K.

I have private medical insurance (3800 a year for a family of 4) set up for hospital trips/big expensive stuff (a trip to the doctors is 60 quid, I get 20 quid back) but I still have to pay 10% and then 50% of each consultants fees (recent MRI on my hip cost me nearly 300 after all bits that were covered were paid).

So the options are kinda along these lines.

Regular doctors = 60 quid, normally fairly quick
Out of hours surgery is 60 quid and upto 3-4 hours wait depending on how busy (they cover a massive area so always pretty busy)
Private A+E - 125 entrance fee (covered by my insurance), then 125 fee for work, 70 quid per xray, 50 quid for casts. They only take the relatively easy/quick stuff but have very fast turn around/low waiting time. 50 mins drive away.
Regular A+E - 50-60 mins drive away, huge waiting times (massively understaffed and triage means non-priority wait forever)

Oh, there is a bit where if you are referred to the A+E by a regular doctor you get to skip a chunk of the fees - but not the queue. Oh and you ALL pay the cost of the medicine, no capped fee.

As for the kind of parent I am - I'd like to think one that takes appropriate action for whatever is going on. A non-distressed kid with some non-toxic crayon up his nose didn't appear to be panic level 1, but I thought I'd check on a place with a majority of sensible, level headed people who would answer with a mix of sensible replies and some pisstakes.


 
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My aunt, when she was three, got a pea stuck up her nose. No-one noticed until she started to smell a bit funky.

Still gets teased about it 60 years later, so you've got a lifetime's worth of material there.


 
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I thought I'd check on a place with a majority of sensible, level headed people

...and then for shits and giggles you asked on here?


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 4:50 pm
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they could find blue crayon colour right up his nose

Not green. Is disappoint.


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 4:52 pm
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put his head in boiling water.
It'll melt the wax and it'll just pour out.

£20 please.

DrP


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 4:53 pm
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Thought you were NHS DrP? you want me to bribe you? 😉

Sorry Perchypanther - although he proudly told the nurse it was "illuminous blue"

He was sticking the twistable (a crayon inside a plastic pen type thing) as far up his nose as possible to show off to a girl, when the delicate inner bit snapped off.

I've bollocked him before now for sticking a pen in his ear, at the same time warned him off plug sockets and his nose but it appears he has only remembered about plugs and ears.

This is the same barnpot that stuck his toothbrush into his eye (covered in toothpaste) and has managed to cut his chin quite badly with lego.

I feel the teenage years could be long and fraught.


 
Posted : 16/02/2016 5:13 pm

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