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Absolutely - I suspect they were beating Shatner back with a stick as he'd have been offering it for free if the show had his (character's) name!!!
7 of 9 is from Voyager, they rescued her from the Borg and she became part of the crew, Voyager did actually make it back home.
The characters they played in the club were meant to be flamboyant and over the top.
I suspected Voyager did make it back but I now have questions about the timeline - how long did it take them to get back and where do they sit against Enterprise (and Picard's Enterprise) - that was the one that was meant to be on the deep space mission and all that (Voyager went deeper due to whatever it was that sucked them in - wormhole?)...
Voyager was thrown onto the Delta Quadrant by the Caretaker. The timeline is the same as Deep Space Nine and TnG
Did anyone else notice that Quark the Ferengi was used as the reference for the meeting in the bar?
I think Janeway, the Voyager captain, was in one of the Picard Star Trek movies.
i can’t understand why Amazon didn’t release it all at once if any of their executives saw it prior to release
Because they don't own it and didn't make it.
Star Trek is a CBS property and they're banking on Discovery, Picard and a couple of other hinted at spin offs saving their US subscription service. Seeing as the rest of the world doesn't matter it's sold to amazon (and others) for wider distribution 24hrs after the Yanks get it.
One other theory is that by sticking with the weekly release format the producers can review the online fan whingers and edit/reshoot later episode to somehow placate the various haters. TBH that's a load of bobbins spouted by incel, minor corporate, conspiracy loving weirdos...
Seven was a guest star, possibly a recurrent character, it was OK, squeezed in some voyager based nostalgia for those that might want it and explained the “rangers” a bit more
That was blatantly a backdoor pilot for a series with Seven Of Nine being a one-cyborg version of the A-Team.
It just feels a bit naff, warrior nuns…. Who really like telling the truth!? We really need that one too come with us, he’s dead good at martial arts… in a universe of spaceships and blasters.
Also we know they're going to a borg cube, the borg never could adapt to physical things so might be useful, by pure luck the they picked up the nunja on the way...
I've not seen this weeks yet, so possibly obviously bunkum by now but I'm going to guess the big secret the romulans are hiding is the borg aren't really from the delta quadrant, they're an ancient romulan invention, like veeger in which ever shatner era film that was
The very first film and was Voyager...a satellite sent from Earth.,.
That was blatantly a backdoor pilot for a series with Seven Of Nine being a one-cyborg version of the A-Team.
Which would go down a storm TBF, seven was the character brought in to save the then failing voyager series, and did. The fanbois would definitely tune in to watch her hunt space baddies rather than Harry Kim and his clarinet...
I suspected Voyager did make it back but I now have questions about the timeline – how long did it take them to get back and where do they sit against Enterprise (and Picard’s Enterprise) – that was the one that was meant to be on the deep space mission and all that (Voyager went deeper due to whatever it was that sucked them in – wormhole?)…
Voyager made it back quite quickly really, thanks to some irresponsible time travel shinanigans by a future admiral Janeway and making use of borg transwarp tunnels.
Strangely enough starfleet still make Janeway an admiral (she sends Picard off on a mission at the start of nemisis) so voyager manage to miss the dominion war and I think the second borg attack on earth (first contact) but they were back just after that...
I’ve not seen this weeks yet, so possibly obviously bunkum by now but I’m going to guess the big secret the romulans are hiding is the borg aren’t really from the delta quadrant, they’re an ancient romulan invention, like veeger in which ever shatner era film that was
Hmmmm, I did think there might be some ancient borg connection worked into the plot, my money is on a Discovery tie in, to do with the future AI they were supposedly battling across time? Dunno that whole thread was left a bit fuzzy, mostly to justify another series?
I'm slightly worried this (newly invented?) deep, ancient Romulan "loathing" of artificial life is some sort of Trek-skynet thing and we're headed for a sci-fi mashup with time travelling robots vs... Pike paired up with Sisco maybe? Why not squeeze everyone in to these fantasy plots?
I'm enjoying it so far (but perhaps giving it more leeway than I would other Sci-Fi series). The last episode I was mostly thinking "wtf, that's Deanna Troi - stop pretending you don't know each Picard!" but apparently it wasn't - so confused :p
The bar scene and dressing up like 70s pimps was an abysmal idea for plot writing.
Nice teleporter/portal but Why did he leave the ninja nun behind?
The Borg get reactivated and discover ninja and Huw and realise that the machine isn't the answer as they have 2 examples of 'perfection' without assimilation...
Perhaps, but suspect it'll be down to some mince about not enough power to transport them all to safety.
I'm still loving this.
Perhaps, but suspect it’ll be down to some mince about not enough power to transport them all to safety.
It wasn’t exactly clear was it. Although after they’d left Huw did say they’d need time to shut everything down to remove any trace of where Picard had gone.
Eh? I thought it was pretty clear. The room needed time to reset and he said he'd help keep the the Romulans at bay to give it enough time.
I must have tuned out slightly for that bit
that’s what’s known as a Macguffin. It’s a tool used by shit writers, which this show seems to have in spades 😂The room needed time to reset and he said he’d help keep the the Romulans at bay to give it enough time.
I bet they’d just re-watched S1 of Game of Thrones and thought they’d recreate Syrio Forel‘s poignant death. Unfortunately they failed because no-one actually cares about any of their rubbish characters.
I actually thought this episode was an improvement though (that’s not really saying much mind 😀)
Star Trek acknowledges and expresses alcoholism and depression shocker pleasant surprise.
Just watched Charlie's Angels. Very hard to differentiate between Picard and Bosley.
That was a much better episode!
the images from the admonition vision
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The scene with the all the holograms was a new low . Rest of the episode was better .
I found the scene with the holograms amusing.
How do we know that the captain isn’t an Emergency Hologram Captain?
Seemed to cover more in that episode than several of the last.
What a co-incidence the captain they charter had met another version of Darj/Soji.
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Member7D was incredibly well hidden then…
I had to go back a look for it after somebody mentioned it but it's definitely there, 3:38 ish.
Good episode I thought, OK the humorous/cheesy side shows like the hologram interactions isn't great but that's always been part of Star Trek.
Although now I don't know whether the Romulans are the actually good guys saving us all from AI annihilation...
And the engineering holo had a bad Scots accent as well...
Although now I don’t know whether the Romulans are the actually good guys saving us all from AI annihilation…
I thought it was saving us from something else so terrible that it turns you mad enough to blow your own brains out that arrives when AI passes a "sentient" tipping point
I thought it was saving us from something else so terrible that it turns you mad enough to blow your own brains out that arrives when AI passes a “sentient” tipping point
Are the Romulans trying to protect civilization from awful script writing and turgid acting? Because if so, they have my full support.
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Although now I don’t know whether the Romulans are the actually good guys saving us all from AI annihilation…I thought it was saving us from something else so terrible that it turns you mad enough to blow your own brains out that arrives when AI passes a “sentient” tipping point
Didn't Picard use the word "believe" that AI was a bad thing, in the context that the romulans wanted to make sure they were not around. The images giving through the mind meld process were fabrications to keep the illusion / agenda going..
I might have misunderstood but when the group are sitting around the table discussing the alignment of the planets and the Admonition, it was compared to the Zephram Cochrane warp drive moment - create a sufficiently evolved AI and "someone shows up". Is it possible that there is another, as yet unidentified group, that is acting as some sort of inter-galactic police force, simply wiping out civilizations that get to this threshold rather than the AIs themselves?
Is it possible that there is another, as yet unidentified group, that is acting as some sort of inter-galactic police force, simply wiping out civilizations that get to this threshold rather than the AIs themselves?
That's how I understood it.
Did the haters not watch TNG, DS9 and Voyager? This is more of the same, including hologram nonsense and ill fitting characters. Great stuff IMO.
My missus is a huge Trekkie (you don't even want to know about the Las Vegas exhibition embarrasment...) but we have to watch each epiosde twice becuase she bascially falls asleep the first time and we 'recap' again the following Friday before the next episode, which is not really a good sign.
We're swapping between Picard on a Friday and catching up with Discovery Season 2 during the week - can't get much different in terms of plot speed. My heads frazzled after Discovery, and just numbed after Picard.
I suspect in hindsight, Picard would be a good series if they edited out an episode or twos worth out.
And the engineering holo had a bad Scots accent as well…
a fine Star Trek tradition.
Well. It’s there ready to go. The last episode.
I’ll save it for tonight but please tie all together and don’t do a big hanging ending. I’m looking at YOU Mandalorian.
Is there not a second series being made?
I'd be incredibly surprised of everything was wrapped up and concluded
Yeah, series 2 due in January 2021
Yeah, series 2 due in January 2021
Incurable brain condition notwithstanding
I’d be incredibly surprised of everything was wrapped up and concluded
Prepare to be surprised.
Incurable brain condition notwithstanding
You've not watched it yet then.
Well, that was good, if predictable from the exposition scene halfway through...
My missus is a huge Trekkie (you don’t even want to know about the Las Vegas exhibition embarrasment…)
Oh, I absolutely do.
I went to Vegas a good few years back for a friend's wedding. I was on a tight budget and Vegas is the most hateful place in the world when you don't have much spare cash (and arguably even if you do). The Star Trek Experience was easily the best thing about the place, and Quark's Bar was both really cool and the cheapest place we'd found to drink in the city.
One time they had Klingons wandering around providing atmosphere, one said to me "you have the hair of a warrior!" I was like "oh, er, thanks" and then he followed up with "... shame about the beard though."
Really enjoyed that AND got my wish of a non cliffhanger finale.
Agreed, was good. Predictable outcome but still very enjoyable.
I'm ambivalent about the ending. Felt like they started the series too slow, and then ran out of time in the last few episodes with some serious explanation missing.
A braver approach would have been to commit to one season of 20 episodes, flesh out the appalling plot holes, and let it finish at the natural point about ten minutes earlier than it does.
I really liked it. Good flow and a decent ending. Very much a continuation of TNG and Voyager. Mild spoiler, with that ending they've now got a ship and a rag-tag crew. Perfect for a series of one off episodes and two parters like trek of old. Not everything has to be a single story box set
Perfect for a series of one off episodes and two-parters like trek of old. Not everything has to be a single story box set
I agree with this, I found at times this was dragged out and the ending was predictable.
Sounds like I'm completely panning it but overall I did enjoy the series and do like the characters.
Characters were great but it did feel like the producers were skilled at pressing buttons as hard as they could and felt like that was what was needed. It was a fun journey but not really sure I'd want to go down that road again
That was ace! Only just got Amazon Prime back, so could watch the two part finale after seeing the rest months ago. Worth the wait. Lovely ending.
Quark’s Bar was both really cool and the cheapest place we’d found to drink in the city.
That made me smile.
Having reflected on this over the last few weeks (mainly getting to Friday and not having a reason to switch the TV on), I'm fine with the series and how it ended and probably won't be watching the next one as I suspect it will be a 1-episode-a-story type stuff that I'll be able.to dip into whenever after it has been shown.
I did enjoy it but it ended at a good point to end (for me).