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They’ve got to write a Q episode
Might be tricksy to explain why John De Lancie has aged 20 years in the last 20 years...
"They’ve got to write a Q episode, they’ve just got to! "
no, just no.
Enjoyed that. Like the whole idea of Picard championing the oppressed synthetics – very Bladerunner 2049.
*geek*
Interesting that the Romulans seem to have reverted to, smaller, nippier-looking ships.
Seems congruent with all those instances during the Dominion War in DS9 where we saw their giant, hulking warbirds getting carved-up by packs of smaller Jem’Hadar fighters.
Hopefully this is a sign that the writing team are at least trying to be consistent with the “history”.
Edit: of course, it might also just be a reflection of their straightened circumstances.
*geek*
Might be tricksy to explain why John De Lancie has aged 20 years in the last 20 years…
He's been made mortal for a period by the rest of the Q Continuum as a punishment for being naughty (again)
Interesting that the Romulans seem to have reverted to, smaller, nippier-looking ships.
Seems congruent with all those instances during the Dominion War in DS9 where we saw their giant, hulking warbirds getting carved-up by packs of smaller Jem’Hadar fighters.
Hopefully this is a sign that the writing team are at least trying to be consistent with the “history”.
Filed under "Overthinking"
considering DS9 was Star Trek for excitable teenagers, I really hope the Picard writing team have filed everything connected with it in the ****ing bin 😂
Ep 2 continues to build on the good work.
Of particular note was Irish Romulan Orly Brady calling someone a 'cheeky ****er'
Some discomfort from me for the real f-bomb later on; I'm not sure Gene Roddenberry would have approved
No spoilers yet please. (I know it says "spoilers" in the title but you can at least wait a day or use the [spoiler] tag.)
Some discomfort from me for the real f-bomb later on; I’m not sure Gene Roddenberry would have approved
They already broke the seal with that in Discovery.
(Ooh, I've worked out how to post BBcode tags without the forum parsing it! Harpy daze.)
Of particular note was Irish Romulan Orly Brady calling someone a ‘cheeky ****er’
Some discomfort from me for the real f-bomb later on;
Likewise, I glanced over my laptop ate the first one as I bought I must have misheard, but the proper one.... Well F Bombs and Patrick Stewart should not be in the same program IMO.
Well F Bombs and Patrick Stewart should not be in the same program
You've clearly never seen the film "Logan". Some Olympic class swearing by the Mr Stewart in that.
"I never really cared for Science Fiction, I never really got it"
Sublime from JLP.
are you kidding me?!!!! Make sure you NEVER watch American Dad. You will be traumatised 😂😂😂😂Well F Bombs and Patrick Stewart should not be in the same program IMO.
Some discomfort from me for the real f-bomb later on; I’m not sure Gene Roddenberry would have approved
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?
Patrick Stewart said he wanted to channel some of the grittiness of Logan, and it's not as if people won't swear in the future.
Oh, and please not Q.
considering DS9 was Star Trek for excitable teenagers, I really hope the Picard writing team have filed everything connected with it in the **** bin 😂
I liked it. Certainly preferred to a lot of Next Generation.
Well F Bombs and Patrick Stewart should not be in the same program
Does this count?
Just finished episode 2. I am in. Hopefully it keeps building.
I like it, it's good enough that not being able to binge-watch is frustrating.
I’m not a fan of Star Trek at all but gave this a go and I’m really enjoying it. Patrick Stewart comes from my home town and grew up not far from my old house. Hides his accent well 😀
Why the **** has a Romulan got an Irish accent? Though I do like her character 🙂
Why the **** has a Romulan got an Irish accent?
Maybe she picked up the language from somebody Irish? You're right though, Romulans should obviously speak English with an American/English/Someother accent. That'd be OK.
Well, she is is the first Irish Romulan in the history of Star Trek. And yes, they should all have a quintessential English accent.
Well F Bombs and Patrick Stewart should not be in the same program
Is this the first thing you’ve seen him in?
The euphemism "f-bomb" is surely a bigger obscenity than any swearing one could imagine!
This is going to get confusing with Romulans altering their appearance to be human and knowing if a character is Romulan or Vulcan or a Romulan pretending to be Vulcan!
Well, she is is the first Irish Romulan in the history of Star Trek. And yes, they should all have a quintessential English accent.
Apart from all the other ones from previous series with American accents...
Of course if you really want an acceptable, in-universe explanation maybe it's just her preferred universal translator setting...
Some discomfort from me for the real f-bomb later on; I’m not sure Gene Roddenberry would have approved
Hmmm, Gene was known for wanting to push as many 'boundaries' as possible, so I think he'd have loved to see an Romulan dropping the F-bomb...
It's worth remembering that Roddenberry has actually been gone for almost 30 years now, if you think ST is meant to be a polite, safe, network telly friendly, franchise that's mostly the fault of Rick Berman who was in the driving seat for almost 15 years and by many accounts wasn't much of a progressive thinker.
This is going to get confusing with Romulans altering their appearance to be human and knowing if a character is Romulan or Vulcan or a Romulan pretending to be Vulcan!
As long as they don't start doing subtle time jumps at the same time (like Westworld). My brain can just about cope with not knowing if a character is human or not OR with subtle time jumps but not both - I really don't want to have to check on the Internet to find out what actually happened in an episode I just watched.
That one was good. I'm liking it...enough to be annoyed I've to wait a week.
Anyone else realise who Huw was and which TNG storyline he was from ?
It's alright innit. Could watch Sir Pat do anything TBH, and I like the slower pace and serial drama structure - as opposed to the typical, stale Star Trek format of self-contained little adventures.
Still been a bit ripe in places though, some of the supporting cast are a bit wooden. And dare I say it's got a bit boring in places, perhaps because the dishy Romulan lad is annoying and that side of the plot has been a bit too expositional.
Anyway, happy to continue with it for now.
DS9 was Star Trek for excitable teenagers,
Best Star Trek evs.
When anyone talks of Star Trek, it's funny how often Enterprise comes up.
ie never.
Like the pace and spaciousness of the plot. Rather than try and cram all the characters in the first episode and screen time in each subsequent they come and go naturally.
Anyone else realise who Huw was and which TNG storyline he was from ?
Yep, he spread 'individuality' to the borg was cool to see him back
Also
considering DS9 was Star Trek for excitable teenagers, I really hope the Picard writing team have filed everything connected with it in the **** bin 😂
You should be sent to Rura Penthe to contemplate just how wrong you are
Dr whatsherface was the worst actor I've ever seen, until the bloke in the last scene.
Also ep2.. gold hard hats? Raheeeeeeely?
Hang on, I missed the Huw reference, was he the one with the scars?
Yes
I really enjoyed this episode, but I do find Mr smoothy pants Narek and Soji a bit tiresome.
Getting a bit more interesting now...
I would like to see the humble Tailor make an appearance as an ex member of the Obsidian Order would make a good foil for Raffi, that and his dead pan delivery
This is rapidly turning into Star Trek: Firefly. I'm in.
Also, best opening line from any character ever.
I would like to see the humble Tailor make an appearance as an ex member of the Obsidian Order
Please $deity.
Exposition over action and none the worse for it.
Loving it.
Also, best opening line from any character ever.
+1
I would like to see the humble Tailor make an appearance as an ex member of the Obsidian Order
Oh yes
While we're at it could we find Bashir & Obrien finally shacked up in the culmination of the greatest romance in trekdom ?
Anyway, Seven...
Yes! Seven...
Loving it thus far. Hitting the mark and that lad, he's a ruthless one.
Hating & loving the unable to binge-watch nature of this series.
Seven...Best reason to tune in next week Eva!
Not really ruthless just doing what he has trained to do...
Exposition over action and none the worse for it.
Loving it.
While I'm enjoying it, I can't help but feel the pacing is somewhat off. There was a reasonable amount of scene setting in episodes 1 and 2, but episode 3 felt a bit slow and episode 4 didn't really move the story on much, Picard is finally in space, but most of the episode is spent on a detour to pick up a Romulan ninja elf with abandonment issues, and we get seven at the very end...
But what other elements of the story were developed this week? Not much that I could see. It is worth noting that there are only ten episodes in this series and it's feeling a bit like they're pissing about TBH, they should have caught up with Maddox this week, perhaps even learned about the existence of the "reclamation zone" cube and possibly engaged in a bit of espionage to learn its location...
Oh and I'm going to throw a wild guess at a future 'twist' out there now, that fella Rios... Hologram, passing as a human.
The ship that got hijacked by Borg was given a bit more story...
Have to agree, it's a bit slow at the moment. I don't want a long 14 hour epic movie cut into 14 hour long chunks.
I want 14 episodes but done bits linking together to make an overall plot.
I'm trying to stay with it but the dialogue is pretty ropey and blatantly expositional, and the pacing is all over the shop.
I like that they've tried to do something different with star trek but it's not quite working for me.
So have the Romulans always been crypto Israelis? Or is that a new thing? Finding it a bit distracting.
Got bored about 20min into epi 4, binned it...I tried, but it's to slow.
Just watched 5 , plenty of seven for RD
Got bored about 20min into epi 4, binned it…I tried, but it’s to slow.
After the initial excitement/nostalgia wore off, i'm starting to agree with you. I find the whole "synthetic/biffing a romulan dude/chosen one/destroyer/sliding in a borg hallway in our socks" storyline insufferable
Yeah same a bit. Not enough lasers this week, and JLP acting like Kenny Everett's Marcel Marceau was pretty crap.
the whole “synthetic/biffing a romulan dude/chosen one/destroyer/sliding in a borg hallway in our socks” storyline insufferable
You're not alone but I'm struggling through, knowing the payoff when he's torn limb from limb by a reanimated Borg will be all the better for it.
I lost track of the plot a few episodes back so it's just random scenes of sci-fi for me. Mostly quite entertaining. The atrocious French accent was atrocious.
If Raffi calls him JL one more time then i'm oot. I hope they kill her off at some point. Pretty dull last couple of episodes, I hope it gets better soon.
How many times do we have to watch a back story?
Anyway it was a bit more Next Gen this week with the bar scene, just as cheesy and badly acted too.
The prosthetics are the worst part for me. Seven looks like she’s had bits of foam or plastic glued to her. I’m guessing it’s supposed to be metal? That lizard man looked like his face was made from papier-mâché. Did they have a deal with a local primary school for the FX!
The Elf who seems to have walked on to the set straight from Middle Earth is odd too.
Yeah I did laugh at those too.
Yep, bit lame last night. Ohh look the cybernetics Doctors working for someone else, at least make the spy in the team a surprise. Ninja/Samurai/Romulan/Elf Assassin seems a bit of a random bolt on. Better pick up soon or it'll go the way of Enterprise.
the bar scene, just as cheesy and badly acted too.
You're thinking about it wrong. It's much better to believe that it was some great actors playing some ordinary people trying to act, but doing a bad job. If you think about it like that, it deserves a clean sweep of the acting awards.
I'm 4 episodes in. Got to say I'm a bit disappointed. I wouldn't describe myself as a huge trek fan, but I did watch TNG when it was on and a couple of the films I think.
When I saw this advertised, I was hoping for something a bit grittier I think, some sort of deeper drama/character study with a sci-fi edge to it, rather than just an extended episode of the NG. It just feels a bit naff, warrior nuns.... Who really like telling the truth!? We really need that one too come with us, he's dead good at martial arts... in a universe of spaceships and blasters.
I'm pretty sure Patrick Stewart is a terrible actor after seeing this as well.
I'll keep watching it though, gives me something else to moan about and I bloody love moaning.
You’re thinking about it wrong. It’s much better to believe that it was some great actors playing some ordinary people trying to act, but doing a bad job. If you think about it like that, it deserves a clean sweep of the acting awards.
No, there was more than them in the scene and they weren’t always in disguise. The ridiculous French accent was clearly meant to be just that so you’re partially right.
I think ep5 was an improvement in plot advancement and some characters development and maybe a step back for others...
The AI doctor lady is a conflicted baddie now (excellent move IMO) Raffi is an estranged from her son, crackhead, conspiracy nut (explains a bit), Rios did a bit more (OK maybe not a hologram).
Seven was a guest star, possibly a recurrent character, it was OK, squeezed in some voyager based nostalgia for those that might want it and explained the "rangers" a bit more.
But why did Legolas suddenly become an idiot? Last week he's a badass, Romulan, ninja-elf this week he can't quite grasp "pretending"? Weak.
The atrocious French accent was atrocious.
Definitely the best bit of the the episode. An English man who played a French character for almost two decades on and off without ever changing his accent, finally breaks out the Franglais as a pretend space pirate, and its awful! We'll let him off though, cos' it's Patrick innit.
But why did Legolas suddenly become an idiot? Last week he’s a badass, Romulan, ninja-elf this week he can’t quite grasp “pretending”? Weak.
Isn’t he an honorary truth nun or something? Not that that’s a great excuse mind.
Romulan, ninja-elf this week he can’t quite grasp “pretending”? Weak.
I assumed this was because his upbringing involved never lying so it was all a bit strange for him.
And I also though the Patrick Stewart accent thing was Picard hamming it up badly. It was both grating and amusing at the same time.
I didn't think the episode moved the plot along much though, especially if it turns out Seven was only in it for this episode.
I’m pretty sure Patrick Stewart is a terrible actor after seeing this as well.
Unfortunately it's stuff like this that makes you forget how good he was in Logan, or as Bullock in American Dad
Dunno what you lot are moaning about, it's Star Trek FFS, what did you expect
😂
Not a Star Trek fan so I'm loving it.
Exactly Sirromj it was always baldy acted and cheesy as hell but entertaining.
The Englishman playing a Frenchman, playing a Frenchman wearing an eye patch badly is brilliant and could have have happened years ago on the holodeck. Remember how awful the Irish village in Voyager was? At least this time it's being done with humour and Rios got to dress up like Matt Berry in House of Fools.
I always assumed Star Trek was supposed to have ropey effects, makeup and acting. Like a soap opera in space, so no budget and actors who couldn’t get work anywhere else. Patrick Stewart being the exception that proves the rule on the acting front.
I assumed this was because his upbringing involved never lying so it was all a bit strange for him.
No he was raised to believe in "total candor" i.e. Always telling the truth, for which, of course, you need the capacity to understand what an untruth is. It is just a bit of poor writing, but it's not really a biggie. I just don't see how slow on the uptake, yet utterly deadly in close combat makes for a good warrior nun/monk character.
I am enjoying picard plenty though, it's basically "dystopian trek", Well a bit more dystopian than TOS/TNG tended to be. Where a well intentioned citizen from the "civilized" bit of the alpha-quadrant (federation) finds himself rubbing up against the Balkanised fringes of the Romulan empire/former neutral zone. A good old fashioned clunky Trek allegory for the modern world...
It was a bit of a struggle that episode, bit late now, but the second half of this season needs to be a bit more direct, the weird thing for this show is that it could have been released all in one, making episodes like this and the last minor issues, but as a weekly show it means any slackness or indirect stuff and it gets poor reviews, i can't understand why Amazon didn't release it all at once if any of their executives saw it prior to release, there's too much character development, backstory and flashbacks.
I’m a bit meh about it, one plus point it’s encouraged me to rewatch Discovery. I gave up on that after a few episodes but have started again.
I've obviously not watched enough of the old stuff to get how all the characters work - I thought 7 wasn't from TNG, so I've no idea how everyone knows about her (suspect there will be a story arc that Picard learned of her whilst he was Borg to answer that).
Also no idea who Raffi is and how she fits in to knowing Picard so well when I thought Frakes was his number 1 and close colleague all the way.
CBS is doing the show - don't think it is an Amazon thing, so suspect CBS is trying to control the show broadcasts like they do for the rest of their stuff - why offer it all in a oner on Amazon when their own site only does 1 episode a week (and you need to subscribe to see it on that)?
Given Patrick Stewart is an Executive Director and Jonathon Frakes is the Director, I'm not really surprised it is so TNG-like...
I think after TNG, Frakes went into directing more than acting. Stewart’s title is more of an honoury one to get a bit more dosh/ incentive to come on board after saying no for so many years.