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The company I work for has recently decided that they wish to achieve the ISO27001 security standard.
Part of this is the requirement for all staff to be identifiable, due to this we have now been issued photo ID for building access (see relevant quote from the standard below)
"Access control passes (badges) shall be worn in clear view at all time, not to be obscured by clothing or other attire."
These were originally provided on irritating lanyards. Due to this a number of us bought extendable belt hook clips for holding the ID in place.
These prevented stooping to access the door release panel, put them on display and removed the irritation, problem solved we thought...
However, we've now been told that we HAVE to wear the lanyard around out neck as "Anywhere else is not immediately visible"
Is refusing to wear this dam thing around my neck unreasonable?
Does the STW collective have any imaginative ideas on how I can display this card without wearing it around my neck? The more ridiculous the better!
Stick it to your forehead. Or one of those old surgical mirror things?
These were originally provided on irritating lanyards. Due to this a number of us bought extendable belt hook clips for holding the ID in place.
However, we've now been told that we HAVE to wear the lanyard around out neck as "Anywhere else is not immediately visible"
Join the two together?
were told the same when i joined 7 years ago ... i quickly worked out that no one was really arsed unless it was audit day.
mines live in my wallet and the wallet gets scanned.
for creative ideas get a shirt with a clear pocket patch on - and stick it in there 😉
Is refusing to wear this dam thing around my neck unreasonable?
Does the STW collective have any imaginative ideas on how I can display this card without wearing it around my neck? The more ridiculous the better!
After about 10 years with one on a lanyard you just get used to it, kind of normal. If this is a major irritation then I hate to see what really gets you upset.
Having needed to use my pass to access most places I went and needing a PIN for about 50% of the swipes at times it just becomes normal, just used to slip the pass out of the holder to swipe it.
What about a bungee type lanyard. you could use to fire paper clips at the ar$e thats making the rules.
If this is a major irritation then I hate to see what really gets you upset.
If this is all you're worrying about, your life must be almost perfect......
Hi viz vest with clear ID pocket
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Seems that they have been very clear, lanyard must be worn around your neck
They didn't say front or back though.
Just put the lanyard and extendible thing together, loads of folks do this
After about 10 years with one on a lanyard you just get used to it, kind of normal. If this is a major irritation then I hate to see what really gets you upset.
+1
A lanyard is the thing that irritates you enough about your job to bother posting about it on the internet?
Clip the retractable doo-dahh to the end of the lanyard.
I've just had exactly this discussion at work a couple of weeks ago. I raised it as a health and safety issue, the last thing you want as an engineer is something flapping flaccidly around your neck when you're working around spinning fans and crawling under desks (see also, ties).
Mine is now on a snap clip. This sort of thing:
https://www.thecardnetwork.co.uk/accessories/clips-and-straps/vinyl-strap-clips.html
I've got one of those retracting cord things as well, my door access fob is on that (the door system pre-dates the ID cards so they're two separate systems).
I've worked in a few places where this was the rule but it was widely ignored. As per post above mine was always kept in my wallet.
[quote=lw246 said]
Is refusing to wear this dam thing around my neck unreasonable?
Yes.
As above yeh I would call it unreasonable and petty. I've worn a lanyard at work for at least 9 years, I've never found it irritating, but then again I've never wanted it to be.
What exactly is your issue with a lanyard? Or is the issue more about you not getting your own way?
Go to a charity shop, buy the most obnoxious paisley kipper tie (2 sugars please) and laminate the id to that.
Leashed consultant here, there is escape from these requirements.
Anyway, some of the lanyard materials are irritating on skin or become dirty easily even in the office.
I always change the supplied lanyard to my own lanyard as some places even offer used lanyards for us consultants. Yuk.
Well, I'm with the OP and it irritated the piss out of me. Wandering about the place with a bloody Jim'll Fix It badge flapping about all day, stupid idea.
Lanyards get caught in machinery/pulled by irate "clients" there'll be an iso about it, look it up & get your company to comply to that standard too
Most lanyards are breakaway, a good tug and it'll come off your neck
I work for a big firm that does the ISO27001 thing. Staff are issued with a belt clip holder thing on a lanyard (so no stooping if it's around your neck). No problem with having it clipped to a belt and that's what the majority do.
I find lanyards annoying as they tend to put the pass right at the level of the desk so it either scrapes or sits awkwardly on the desk until you move.
1WP
Man, I'd love a lanyard to wear around my neck my job.
I'd love a job first, of course. Then lanyard.
Yep..... this is the sort of stuff that I just ignore.
Or, if they are getting really pi$$y about it, wear the lanyard for a few days/weeks, then revert back to the belt-leash thing.
fight the power
I'd tell them to get bent.
It surely can't be a sackable offence?
Clip it your belt buckle so everyone has to look at your cock to make sure you have it on.
[quote=nwmlarge ]I'd tell them to get bent.
It surely can't be a sackable offence?
If you keep breaking the companies rules for no good reason? Why wouldn't it be?
In my old office you were escorted to the door if you didn't have a badge on show. I'm still not getting what the problem is here either.
[i]I'm still not getting what the problem is here either. [/i]
I think some people just like to make an issue out of something that, to the majority of people, isn't even something worth thinking about.
My lanyard doesn't flap about when I walk, nor does it get caught against my desk as I have space between stomach and desk. I guess if you have a fat belly and swagger you may have 'issues'.
In my old office you were escorted to the door if you didn't have a badge on show.
in my old office you didn't get past the man on the gate with a gun.
in my old office you didn't get past the man on the gate with a gun.
I'm not surprised. Why were you carrying a gun?
nwmlarge - Member
I'd tell them to get bent.
It surely can't be a sackable offence?
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I'd bet consistently ignoring company security policy would be.
If it is easily accessible then what is the issue?
If it was an MOD property then having ID clipped to your uniform would be more than sufficient surely.
Anything else is pointless, especially in a very familiar environment.
As a complete aside, i tend to suffer with in grown hairs on my neck if i wear a tight collar let alone a lanyard rubbing away all day.
Thanks all, reading this has just provided me great amusement. STW delivers again 😀
I find lanyards annoying as they tend to put the pass right at the level of the desk so it either scrapes or sits awkwardly on the desk until you move.
This pretty much sums up my objection to wearing it around my neck. The thing is at the perfect length to be constantly caught between me & the desk.
I've just been told that the auditor comes in tomorrow so I'm going to ask for clarification on the cards being attached to a belt loop.
Failing this I do like the idea of either wearing it backwards or shortening the lanyard to ridiculous levels so it's more like a dog collar.
As Batfink says:
fight the power
Just put the lanyard and extendible thing together, loads of folks do this
That's what I do with mine.
Just put the lanyard and extendible thing together, loads of folks do this
Doesn't that have it dangling round your knees?
Places I've been with this stuff I find the clip part for the strap snaps so I just stuff it in my pocket, and no one seems to care.
One place wasn't fussed about not seeing the ID but they did have airport style security with an x-ray machine for our bags and a metal detector to walk through!
i work at a university...i think we're supposed to wear tour id cards all the time...but no-one does
my picture i about 12 years old but i've only been working there for 9 years...they got my photo from student records as i also studied there. we got re-issued with new cards a few years ago as they are the new RFID cards so you just need to wave them near sensors to open doors etc rather than swiping them in a card reader
thankfully my horrible picture from my student days has worn off so even if i did wear it theres no way of confirming that i am who my Id cards claims me to be
it stays in the car now as it also doubles up as the car park access key
We've had RFID type cards for some time, they replaced keypads that had three different numbers for three different areas of the building, which was a pain if you had access to all three. I used to carry mine in my Jimi wallet on a lanyard attached to a belt-loop, which worked perfectly, but then the company needed to get GC/PCI Level 1 accredited, so everyone has an ID badge, with either a card inside, or a little dongle jobbie. Most have neck lanyards, some of the blokes running machines have extending leashes.
Doesn't bother me one iota wearing mine, the only issue is remembering the names of new staff, and checking out their ID badge, when over 90% of the people I work with are female...
Chillax.. Once the rules been in force for a few months people will stop caring!
Personally I don't mind them as they are a handy place to hang rsa keys and door fobs.
Stick it to your forehead.
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