[Closed] Philosophical musings on death and killing

You and your dog probably saved some of my lettuce or carrots from being eaten by the pesky slimy things.

Keep up the snail smashing!

[i]Does it matter?[/i]

Probably not.

Is there weed involved in this question.....................maaaaaaan?

I think Mr & Mrs Thrush will be ok with this. (not the....'fanny' thrush of course, but the feathersd variety)

I take your dogs point of view on this one

There were ants in my garden.

Thousands if not millions of them, I felt like Michael Cane in Zulu except their eyes weren't white. They kept coming and coming, slowly but surely not the victoria sponge please not the sponge

Sponge versus ants, ants versus sponge. I know who my friends are.

Water, boiling water, a tremor in the force, a million lights snuffed out at once, is that you mother?

Snails? they'll have y'leg off given half a chance, it was them or you. kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out.

its weird how ill try to save something stupid like a spider in the bath but will beat the crap out of a fly thats buzzing around my lounge. bloody things.

No, I'm not on drugs! 😆

Just musing on how little difference our post-accident hand-wringing makes: thinking about the oil gushing out into the Mexican Gulf, about the friends and relatives of the people David (? I think) Bird shot and about this idea that perps should meet their victims.

Perhaps it's to do with "heaven" - if we're truly sorry we'll go upstairs and live happily ever after?

Hmm shall weove on ?

I live in a flat, it's an old farm building conversion and it get spiders. When I first moved in 3 months it was spider central, it wasn't the spiders that bothered me but the cobwebs they were everywhere.

I use to catch them and shove them out of a window. But it got to a point I was bashing my head against a wall now I just squish them in a tissue or suck them up with the vac. I don't particularly like killing them any other time I wouldn't, but I just can't stand the cobwebs or the amount I get if I don't keep on top of them.

I find the Daddy Long legs the worse though for some reason I always seem to find Missing Sector spiders in the bedroom more often than anywhere else.

Bloody shirt keypad on HTC desire ! But that's for another thread

I was brought up with the rule, you kill it, you eat it. Not a bad rule for a young lad with a gun.

Gradually this extended to a reluctance to kill anything that didn't merit killing. So I won't hurt a spider, but I'll kill a fly (spreads disease). Careful not to stand on ants if I can avoid it etc.

I swerve to avoid slugs on the trail 🙂

Perhaps it's to do with "heaven" - if we're truly sorry we'll go upstairs and live happily ever after?

I'm more inclined to believe in Karma.................

Amazing how much difference a hat makes to how we view things. Slugs- no bother, step on them all day. Slugs with hats on- feel bad if you step on them.

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Nope. I'd feel terrible if I killed a person, probably suicidal.

But animals? Nah, they're different in my eyes. I wouldn't be able to justify being an omnivore if I couldn't kill animals and accept that animals need to be killed. If that makes me a lesser person, tough.

Based on Northwind's animals in hats theory.....

I give you evolution in action

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Yeah. Northwind's point also raises the 'cute animal' protection dilemma.

No-one would get out of bed to help save the slug or a snake or a spider that was on the verge of distinction.

But if a Panda is looking a bit iffy, there are teams of people all working round the clock to save it. Showing it Panda porn to get it in the mood, fluffers work away at it's tiny knob so it's ready to go, hand feeding it tender bamboo shoots.

It's the most useless animal ever invented. It was destined to become extinct, Darwin might have written a word or two about paranoid, frigid creatures with no killer instinct. Yet because it looks quite cute it has survived well beyond it's natural species span.

mmmmmm panda curry 😉

I was brought up with the rule, you kill it, you eat it. Not a bad rule for a young lad with a gun.

Gradually this extended to a reluctance to kill anything that didn't merit killing. So I won't hurt a spider, but I'll kill a fly (spreads disease). Careful not to stand on ants if I can avoid it etc.

You eat flies??

[I step on a snail.] I feel terrible, full of remorse and I berate myself for the senseless slaughter of a defenceless innocent.

You strike me as a silly person. Not quite of this world.

Since trying to end my life, i have changed and see life as precious in every way, be it the smallest of critters to gert ones.

I feel bad when i've trodden on things because i've not noticed them, however i also leave nature to do its thing and and for creatures to live their risky lives, i've only intervened to cease suffering of an injured animal whether big or small.

3 examples from my present exploits.:

Bug crossing a path at risk of being eaten or trodden on, i leave it, one critters death helps feed a new life.

Duckling gets washed away from it's family in fast flowing river, it calls out in vain and manages to struggle to a small island of stones 100m from it's parents, part of me wants to climb down to try and help it, the other says, it's meant to be and will become part of a food chain..i walked away feeling bad about, then happy for the creature who gets it's meal...

I also came across a sheep lying in a field, still alive but with it's eyes pecked by birds, i calmly killed it without a second thought.

I'd not think twice about shooting, snaring, trapping animals to provide me with food.

But when i've a camera and need no food i look at these things as marvels.