Who is the real idiot, the SUV driver sitting at home with enough fuel to last him the next two months or your neighbour who can’t get to work?
Still the SUV driver.
Them and their fellow selfish idiots have just created mini crisis simply because they are too stupid.
The government really should have learnt its lesson and put in the ability for cool down periods to get the morons diverted onto something less dangerous.
There's only so much capacity people have in their tanks so after a short blip it'll be back to normal soon enough.
I did buy Diesel today - but with 260 miles range left and 240 miles driving planned this weekend that seemed needed. Busier than normal but not crazy.
The government really should have learnt its lesson
Have you seen our government?
I did buy Diesel today – but with 260 miles range left and 240 miles driving planned this weekend that seemed needed.
You’ve got 20 miles spare you panic buyer you
Refuse to be part of the problem. Wonder if I'm going to regret that on Sunday when I need to take daughter back to University 🙂
Wonder if I’m going to regret that on Sunday when I need to take daughter back to University
I do have some concerns about a trip on sunday. Hopefully at least a few stations on the way will have recovered and the idiots will be sitting admiring their full fuel gauges at home whilst trying to figure out what to do with that leaky jerrycan.
It would be a pain, but the worst that could happen is that my daughter has to stay home a few days longer. Hardly the end of the world and I really couldn't live with joining the headless chickens queuing for something that isn't even in short supply.
nowt to do with Brexit, it’s because too many people are thick and/or selfish.People lose their heads at the idea of scarcity so you have to take that into account when making plans. I think part of living in Brexit Britain
Still the SUV driver.
Them and their fellow selfish idiots have just created mini crisis simply because they are too stupid.
Is it stupid to anticipate the stupidity of others? Is it stupid to anticipate others anticipating the stupidity of others? At which point are you just making sure you can get to work in the morning?
I don't have a a dog in this fight myself. I'm in Norway. We've got more fuel than we know what to do with. And I hardly ever use the car.
I just wonder if some of you have the instincts necessary to survive in Brexit Britain. The shelves are empty of food and you're wondering why people are worried that there might not be enough fuel to go around (well, obviously there will be enough fuel, just no way to get it from the depots into your car).
Banks are very safe places to keep your money. Until there's a run on the bank. At which point not standing in the queue and getting your money out as soon as possible would be very stupid. Sure, you can always be the change you want to see and say to yourself, 'If nobody took their money out there wouldn't be a problem so I'm going to leave it there and assume everyone else is sensible like me and everything will be fine.'
Sure, stupid people panic buy. Stupid people also don't panic buy. The difference is the stupid people who don't panic buy can't get to work.
Car has just given me the low fuel warning (actually 70+ miles range left). Working from home tomorrow, and all next week, and then I have Mon-weds the following week off, so I don't need to use my car until the 7th October.
Very happy to just let this blow over and let the idiots queuing fill up their car for it to sit in the tank for the next few weeks.
they really aren’t, thoughThe shelves are empty of food
I work in fuel distribution.
Theres no real issue on current demand
We've been short for years with drivers.
The shelves are empty of food
they really aren’t, though
They would be if the media reported on a disturbance to the yogurt or rice cake supply chain.
Is it stupid to anticipate the stupidity of others
Christ! Try and factor that into your life in this country at the moment and you’d not have time for owt else
I work in fuel distribution.
Theres no real issue on current demand
Cool.
Unfortunately the government said the same thing so people are naturally assuming they're lying and it'll be Mad Max by Monday.
Apparently I need to take the Octavia tomorrow, for a 60 mile trip with 70 miles of diesel left in it.
First four petrol stations I drove past on my way to pick up daughter were all backed up on to the road.
Luckily we went home via a fifth, drove straight up to a pump, filled up with diesel, pootled home.
They would be if the media reported on a disturbance to the yogurt or rice cake supply chain
Some of us still have painful memories of the great salad cream drought of 1997
Unfortunately the government said the same thing so people are naturally assuming they’re lying and it’ll be Mad Max by Monday.
To be fair, I assume anything our current government in Westminster says is either fairy tale or complete and deliberate lie.
no it will be back to normal by Tues/Wed once the logisitics companies have figured out a re-routing structure
My post was ambiguous, sorry. I meant fuel will be in short supply for a few days after this episode of panic buying. So yes I'd delay any nonessential trips for a few days or go next weekend.
I've got enough fuel to get down to MRT training on Sunday, time I started pedalling to work again anyway.
EG Group have applied a £30 limit, the others will surely follow. I think that's fair ploy. I assuming they can fix the pumps to a limit to police that.
And GOV.UK may get help from..... Europe! Allowing European lorry drivers to pop across and plug our shortage. Who'd have thought...
EG Group have applied a £30 limit, the others will surely follow. I think that’s fair ploy
Faster than the supermarkets but still slow. Slap the idiots down early preferably using apache gunships.
Went from Newbury to Kidderminster and back after work to pick my mum up for weekend, no diesel anywhere on way back.
Well I spent the day driving the truck getting held up in all the traffic caused by queues spilling over onto every road near a petrol station round most of the South Wales Valleys. Even the Murco in Ferndale (which is stuck up a valley to nowhere) had a queue down the street with the owner acting as a marshal to keep the forecourt flowing. most surprising though was the BP services at J33 of the M4, the most expensive fuel for miles. Queues right back round to the main roundabout, which was incredibly annoying as it was blocking off the lorry pumps I needed. 1 1/4 hrs to get to them and what looked like lots of people filling up their weekend cars, spotted a V8 Mustang and a pair of Lotuses plus a motorhome or four.
People are nuts.
Was on the M25 evening and thought I'd have a look at the BP in Clacket lane, was quiet but 1.64 a litre for Ultimate.
Closer to home I drove past some silly queues so I don't mind having paid the premium not to do that.
Some of us still have painful memories of the great salad cream drought of 1997
Don't laugh, there's trouble in artisan sourdough circles 😉
Yep, as someone said, it's official. The government are going to grant temporary visas for EU HGV drivers.
Which sector next?...
The issue with that is that it's not guaranteed that the EU drivers want to come over here. Why would they when the IR35 loophole is closing, they get treated like crap and the drop in the value of the £ makes it less attractive compared to staying at home. Don't forget the EU has a shortage of drivers too.
the good news is it does signify the first bit of irrefutable proof that Brexit isn't all sunny uplands.
Come to the UK to drive a lorry.
It’ll be temporary, you’ll have no rights, and we’ll treat you like shit, then tell you to **** off and turf you out again as soon as you’re done
That’ll have them battering down the doors to get here I’m sure
the good news is it does signify the first bit of irrefutable proof that Brexit isn’t all sunny uplands.
Desperate ****s in the Ministry for Excuses will be on double overtime this weekend.
Europe! Allowing European lorry drivers to pop across and plug our shortage. Who’d have thought…
Ah yes...proof we've taken back control if ever you needed it!!! thats the whole point...it was never about anti immigration...just controlled immigration - a concept the remain side never actually grasped and still haven't. And the Eu is part of the problem and the reason why HGV drivers wages have remained stagnant for decades....and the reason why the average age of HGV drivers is 55 with vast swathes of them leaving the profession due to retirement or atrocious pay and conditions. No the EU is actually one part of a multi-faceted problem that has been going on for a very long time that has led to this point. And Brexit doesn't explain why vast swathes of the EU and other countires are also suffering from driver shortages and logistics disruption at the moment. This problem pre-dates Brexit and has actually been something that the industry has been battling for over a decade. Covid and shutting down the global system and causing massive disruption to the normal workings of the global economy has brought it all to a head.
Same with car washing...I earned as much washing cars at weekends when I was 14 for a pocket money top up than a band of 4 immigrants earn to wash my car down the local car wash. I used to get fiver and if I were to support the local modern slave trade I'd only pay a fiver for 4 people to wash my car today. Go EU!
Come to the UK to drive a lorry.
It’ll be temporary, you’ll have no rights, and we’ll treat you like shit, then tell you to **** off and turf you out again as soon as you’re done
That’ll have them battering down the doors to get here I’m sure
This. I really hope they have the dignity, and cash reserves, to tell us to **** right off
Pfft! brimmed both cars (and the jerry cans) last week, I was panic buying before it was cool sheeple 8)
This. I really hope they have the dignity, and cash reserves, to tell us to **** right off
I kinda hope they dont. Since whilst being shown to be right is nice I do like to be able to eat/drink and drives places.
Car washing. Pretty sure labour laws are sidestepped in that industry. And you do know 4 people take 1/4 of the time or less per car assuming the same effort.
I thought hand car washes were mostly about money laundering.
and I fortuitously felt hungry on the way home yesterday so stopped at the garage for a snack and filled the tank at the same time. Be good until things settle down again…
it was never about anti immigration…just controlled immigration – a concept the remain side never actually grasped and still haven’t.
No, it really was about immigration. Why would you want to control it, if you didn't like it? Don't forget we could have controlled it anyway, we just didn't bother. So this line is just a smokescreen. It WAS always about immigraiton, it was always anti-foreigner.
This problem pre-dates Brexit
That I'll agree with. As someone said in one of these links - it's not purely because of Brexit, but Brexit has harmed our ability to deal with the problems we're facing. It'll always do that, because we're smaller than we were in the EU, we have far fewer allies, and far fewer resources to draw on. Working together with your neighbours is always going to be better and make you more resilient.
I thought hand car washes were mostly about money laundering
They are. The latest scam is dog breeding
it was never about anti immigration…just controlled immigration – a concept the remain side never actually grasped and still haven’t.
Bollocks! The HGV. Drivers and fruit pickers are just the first to become obvious. Over the next few years plenty more areas will become increasingly apparent
This is just the tip of the iceberg that has been artificially suppressed for the last 18 months
Covid has been a very handy merkin
I’m sick of being (reasonably) diplomatic with you clowns. If you voted for Brexit then you’re a *ing moron
Have the lucidity to realise where blame lies. It’s not with the EU. It’s far closer to home
This is only the beginning of the new reality. Expect plenty more backtracking, sector by sector, as the chasm between the promised ‘sunlit uplands’ collides with the world as it actually is, as opposed to how it exists in John Redwoods head
*s, the lot of the charlatans who facilitated this pointless and unnecessary shitshow
I hate Brexit, but this current fuel and haulage crisis isn't caused by Brexit. Sure it has played a part in it but the seeds of this crisis were sown long ago. 5 years ago our child minder was a long distance HGV driver. He worked out it was a better, happier and healthier life working with his wife doing childminding in their house. Childminding is hard, underpaid work as well but he assured me better than sleeping in laybys and getting treated like shit for low pay.
The stronger link between Brexit and the haulage crisis is the reprobate conservative party. Both caused by raging incompetence and a preference for dogma. These problems have been known about for years and years - yet it takes a full blown crisis for these ****wits to take action. A decade in power.
The driver shortage isn't due to Brexit, though its acted as a catalyst and accelerated the problem.
Ir35 hasn't helped.
I'm doing my class 1. I don't want to be a driver but it's a skill that's very handy in my line of work.
Its gonna be about 3.5k all in.
Jobs are about 11 to 12ph basic, to earn 50k that's 4 or 5 nights out tramping. Once you get a steady job.
Would anyone here like to invest 3k to then earn 11 quid and sleep in a truck 4 nights......
No
That's the problem
When the shit really hits the fan, bog roll and petrol = Molotovs!
No doubt our commonwealth cousins will be enlisted to save us again in our latest darkest hour.
Duncancallum above nails it really.
The European Road Haulage Assoc have been raising the lack of drivers being trained as an issue since 2005.
The reasons for the decline in drivers working (there are 600,000 licensed in the U.K. but not working) are why we are where we are:
- massive downward pressure on wages caused by free flow of labour (e.g. Romanian drivers living in their cabs for 2 months at a time then going back home vs. Drivers here who have housing costs)
- IR35 which means individual lorry owners are now classed as employees and can’t recover costs
- low productivity at distribution centres caused by poor dock scheduling, lack of warehouse optimisation and slow unloading
- a myriad of controls (backed by fines) on where drivers can park
- antisocial hours exacerbated by planning restrictions that require shops to have deliveries in the early hours of the morning
- loss of amenities for drivers in the pandemic - no toilet facilities, meal facilities and the constant threat of robbery whilst parked up
Jobs are about 11 to 12ph basic, to earn 50k that’s 4 or 5 nights out tramping. Once you get a steady job.
Would anyone here like to invest 3k to then earn 11 quid and sleep in a truck 4 nights……
No
That’s the problem
I'm still stuck on the agency treadmill with my Class 2 and anything paying less than £12 p/h doesn't get a driver right now. Class 1 is around £14 and up just to get a body in the seat. I've had work paying anything from £12 to £19 p/h, the £19 was for food deliveries and was really high pressure and physical to the point it wasn't worth the money. They were offering the high rate to entice drivers in with a 12 week bonus before it dropped to £13 standard on a 45 hour week which worked out at £32k a year but the stress from the pressure on the runs meant that of the 4 that started with me only one got past 3 weeks. I haven't heard of any tramping job paying over £30 per night out so to get to £50k a year is a lot of hours and staying out every night you can, not sustainable.
Come to the UK to drive a lorry.
It’ll be temporary, you’ll have no rights, and we’ll treat you like shit, then tell you to * off and turf you out again as soon as you’re done
That’ll have them battering down the doors to get here I’m sure
This. I really hope they have the dignity, and cash reserves, to tell us to * right off
Going by the talk on the truckers facebook pages and forums very few European drivers are even considering coming back over. The overriding feeling is why come over here for an indeterminate amount of time to earn no more than they can back home and be treated like crap. Lots have taken the Brexit vote to heart that they are not wanted here by most of the population and are not a pool of people who can be summoned for a short fix then told to **** off again in a few months. Brexit has done severe damage to the relationship and will take a generation to fix. Expect the shortage of drivers to continue for a while yet.
My car says it has 68 miles left in it, the golf course is 7.7 miles away and each school run is a 3 mile round trip so I should get through to next weekend easily enough. I would have chucked another £20 but the queues were starting to build up.
Wife's car has the light on and she need to drive more than I do so she headed out at 3.30am to the station down the road and there were queues, police, no E5, and angry people shouting at each other. Carnage
So you use your car for golf and a short school run but she's the one that has to go out for fuel in the middle of the night 🤨
Who says chivalry is dead?
Police out in force at an petrol station with petrol here. Mrs Anagallis allowed £25 of diesel. At least that means I can take mum home tomorrow. Old car having what we expect to be final MOT of doom Monday, might have to siphon diesel out of it at this rate!!
Can’t see many European drivers coming back temporarily.
I’m also not convinced about the argument that this will blow over as people’s fuel tanks will now be full. That argument ignores that the stupid people will continue to put £5-15 in every time their gauge goes down a bar. Also many people will not be thinking about the repercussions and be encouraged to top up by the emotive ‘warnings’ of the gutter press.
I think instead of setting a maximum amount of £30 of fuel like some retailers are doing, there should be a minimum of 40 litres unless you can prove your tank is smaller than that. This will forcibly put people back to their usual routine.
Naturally this will cause a problem for a small number of people but that will be temporary and less problematic than the panic we are now experiencing.
Can’t believe all the idiots out there, I just used 3/4 of a tank driving round looking for somewhere to fill up.
I’ll echo what Duncancallum said. I have over 15 years of driving HGV’s under my belt. When I did my training it cost me just shy of £2000 for both licenses. The first job I got through an agency was paying me £8.40 an hour. When I progressed to Class 1 after 4 months I got a job paying £8.50 p/h.
There were less restrictions on the amount of hours you could work then either, so I was hammering in 70+ hours a week and out for 5 night. I would start on a Sunday at 10am and not be home until 19:00 on a Friday night. It was fine for a couple of years but I soon got sick of it.
I then got a job with a company who operates tankers, this was 2009 and the wages were £9.05 p/h. It was a good job at the start but the transport manager (owners son) got greedy and took on more work and put pressure on the experienced guys to pick up the slack. The work load increased, along with the hours.. but no increase in pay! This continued and as I gained more experience I was under constant pressure to be somewhere early to tip an inexperienced guy first or load a trailer. I was putting in 60+ hours every week and racking up 2500km+ every week (my record was 3800km driving in a week). I discussed the issues on many occasions but was fobbed off, wage increases were like pulling teeth and only pennies in the pound. When I left it was a £12p/h for driving around with flammable, corrosive, toxic and other dangerous liquids being carried. Then you have the services or truck stops.. ah where to start. Fancy having a shower where someone else has taken a dump? How about using a toilet that has piss all round the seat, or parking up in a muddy bit of waste ground or a service station where the ground is stained in urine and the smell in almost unbearable.. and be charged up to £30 for the privilege! Oh and you will struggle to get a decent meal if you don’t want a KFC or Burger King 🤢. Then to wake up in the morning and find your diesel has been stolen or your curtain slashed. Then off to your delivery where you are treated like the scum of the earth, no toilet facilities in some places that keep you waiting for hours. When you tell them your needing tipped so you can get parked up as your running out of hours they delay you so you incur and infringement which if VOSA prosecute you for has to be paid by you, even though your company sent you in there anyway. Add that to the morons on the road and being away from your family, is it any wonder there is a driver shortage?
Who in their right mind would read the above and say “yeah, that’s the job for me”. My experiences are not the exception, they are the norm in an industry plagued by greed, managers who have never driven a lorry and an infrastructure decades behind other countries when it comes to facilities to name a few.
Would I like out the industry? Absolutely.. but nobody seems to want to employ an HGV driver for anything other than driving an HGV, I have nearly 16 years in the transport industry where I have picked up a host of transferable skills but I can’t even get a job interview if it’s not driving related. On the plus side I now work doing domestic fuel deliveries, I drive a 6 wheeler, I’m home every night, start at 06:15 and I’m usually done for 16:00, but it’s a hard physical job pulling the hose out 20+ times a day, my knees, elbows and shoulders are wrecked. Will I manage this job for another 30 years until retirement? No! But at the moment it’s all I can get.
Anyway.. rant over. Sorry, needed to get that off my chest..
Ps.. THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF FUEL. I’m in the fuel industry and believe me there is plenty fuel. The garages will be re stocked by early next week.
Have a nice weekend.
Ps.. THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF FUEL. I’m in the fuel industry and believe me there is plenty fuel. The garages will be re stocked by early next week.
Everybody knows that, the issue is can you get to work on Monday? You sound like Boris Johnson saying things like that.
There's no shortage of fuel and yet the police are out in force trying to stop disorder at petrol stations!
Add in the problems that driving in the UK is tough
I would happily drive a 40t truck down through France or Spain or Germany
The uk network of A and B roads must be hellish for articulated vehicles
Angry gammons cutting you up, diving up the inside on roundabouts
Stopping up your chuff when you have to reverse into a yard
I know itv will be the same in most towns in Europe but they seem to be able to create by passes or out of town infrastructure
My mate failed his HGV medical on high bp, he was offered £200 a day for class 1 but his cert had lapsed
Good post @1981milked . Can't blame anyone for not wanting to play that game.
It's a perfect example of what happens when you allow a strategically important industry to be run entirely by the market.
Just been out for supermarket shop, went past a few filling stations, all out of petrol (East Kilbride) and spoke to an attendant who advised none in the vicinity at any brand or supermarket forecourts. Wife’s car ( which I was in) has about 1/4 tank left, son's the same. They are both working and commute by car.
Mine is a diesel, which seems to be still available and I have 3/4 of a tank anyway and am WFH so don’t need to drive much apart from visiting my mother tomorrow. Think I’ll do a local ride from home later farther than drive half an hour with MTB on back though.
BBC Scotland reported a “few” petrol stations had queues for petrol yesterday. My local one didn’t. Because it had no petrol.
Bye Bevan had it right. You can’t trust a Tory. And well done Brexiteers you’ve created carnage.
Because the gonks are reading the papers and watching the news and believing what they are being told. It’s monkey see monkey do. There is no point trying to tell these people otherwise though as they just want a band wagon to jump on.
And well done Brexiteers you’ve created carnage.
So basically you want a lifestyle off the back of paying Eastern Europeans peanuts and having them work under hellish conditions for months on end?
cake - what's your solution?
According to johnson '...we're transitioning into a high skill, high wage economy'.
Yeah, right.
We're definitely transitioning - into a banana republic; an increasing irrelevant country - a faded post-colonial power; dismissed by the US and Europe; all we can offer to the world are lessons in how to screw-up monumentally.
So basically you want a lifestyle off the back of paying Eastern Europeans peanuts and having them work under hellish conditions for months on end?
That's actually a really compelling argument. Not sure Brexit is the answer though... That would be decency and morals. Oh..
So basically you want a lifestyle off the back of paying Eastern Europeans peanuts and having them work under hellish conditions for months on end?
Nope but that is how it was working. By stopping that dead you get to the point it is now. A proper plan to get UK drivers paid properly and under good conditions needs to be executed before you send all the migrants back who are currently filling the positions.
Question:
If conditions for drivers (especially roadside) are so much better in comparable EU countries, why do people blame the conditions here on the fact we used to have EU drivers? It wasn’t the fault of “foreigners” that in the UK we treat workers like trash, and fail to provide for even their basic needs and safety.
Can’t believe all the idiots out there, I just used 3/4 of a tank driving round looking for somewhere to fill up.
😜
Can’t believe all the idiots out there, I just used 3/4 of a tank driving round looking for somewhere to fill up.
Lovely. 🙂
Jumped in the first station I saw in the way home, busier than usual but not mad, payed an inflated price for my normal half a tank of diesel. One (normally quiet) station on the way home had a queue out on to the road, I wasn't even going to attempt driving past the busier stations in town...
Got home and my Missus (who has never actually put fuel in a car) skipped her normal greetings and asked me urgently if I had put petrol in the car, I scored an empty minor victory by saying no and going on to point out that it uses diesel, but that I had put half a tank of that in. To which she said "I would have filled it up" setting aside the spurious idea that she even knows where the hole for dinosaur juice is located on our car I pointed out that I had put in more than enough for our planned journeys over the coming week...
She remains unconvinced and thinks we should resource hog, mainly because she spent all day WFH and viewing alarmist news, she was also an excess bog roll purchaser a year ago... This is how panic buying works.
My own pet theory is we're heading into the last week of Q3-21 and Boris fancies a bumper crop of fuel duty. There is enough for everyone, but lets convince the great unwashed to buy a bit extra.
As all these pictures are emerging of people filling up containers with flammable liquid to store god-knows-where, are we taking bets on when the first raging explosion will occur as some idiot sparks up a Lambert & Butler in their garage?
are we taking bets on when the first raging explosion will occur as some idiot sparks up a Lambert & Butler in their garage?
If only...
Not bothering to to check Google Maps Mrs K popped out for the 5 mile round trip to drop the kids off to their various activities this morning at 10am. Its 11am, she stick crawling back.
She said its so bad they are sitting in the cycles lanes queuing for miles along the roads in order to leave a central path through the roads which itself is rammed with slowly moving traffic.
Good ****ing grief.
I scored an empty minor victory by saying no and going on to point out that it uses diesel
yes but you were right, and that's the important thing. In these tough times we have to take our positives where we can find them.
So basically you want a lifestyle off the back of paying Eastern Europeans peanuts and having them work under hellish conditions for months on end?
It didn't have to be a choice between exploiting foreigners or sudden chaos though. The issue is not that we kicked out Eastern European drivers, but that we did it without the first idea of what we'd do once they left. A competent government would have planned it out, over perhaps 5 years, to ensure a smooth transition. Sadly, we do not have a competent government.
Which is actually why many people voted remain. My FIL - a Tory eurosceptic, as much of a leaver as you could meet - was keen to vote leave. But he looked at the leaders of the day - Cameron, Osborne et al, decided he had no faith in them to do a good job of Brexit, and reluctantly voted remain. He was wrong about a lot of things IMO, but he's being proved right on that one.
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Or, of course, we could pay and treat drivers, and all workers, properly irrespective of how “local” they are. I’m aware I’m out of step with most of England with that crazy notion.
Anyway, local forecourts all closed. Car won’t get touched ‘till Wednesday now (we’ve changed plans to allow for this). Hopefully the immediate craziness will be over by Tuesday evening. Fingers crossed.
How about using a toilet that has piss all round the seat,
Youve met my kids then 😁
as some idiot sparks up a Lambert & Butler in their garage?
Garage? They wont have any space in there due to the toilet rolls and additional fridge freezers they pick up last time they panicked.
May I just say, as someone looking in from the outside, hahaha.
What a ****ing shambles the UK is.
It would be even funnier if it wasn't for the fact that so many people never voted for any of this.
Please, people.... At the next election vote those narcissistic bastards out.
Cant fully blame brexit as much as I'd like.
Its years of miss management, big firms squashing wages for profits.
The EU drives have just been a sticking plaster.
Though hands up who wants to pay more in shops....
Just wait for the red diesel duty change to drive prices up in the shops as well.
Next year inflation will be very high....
The really good news is that thanks to Covid way more people now own servicable bicycles.
The timing is great too, so that while we enter the winter months enduring this imaginary fuel crisis, they'll hopefully be out using their bikes and discover that you don't actually need to lob it in the shed to rust in August, you can use them pretty much year round for short journeys in the UK...
Honestly I'd really quite like to see the boot put into British "car culture" perhaps this is an unintended upside to Brexit? If the financial cost of ICE driving starts to truly reflect the other damages it does, and leccy motoring remains ever so slightly too expensive up front for normal people to buy into, could it actually stimulate the uptake of more environmentally responsible transport/working options?
I'm certainly blaming all this on Brexit just so that shit sticks.
Yeah once the red diesel stops being used for construction and farming there will be a big loss in revenue. Guess where that will be made up? At the pumps for the normal consumers.
The wages and condition for drivers have been shocking for years and this is the result. Although I do agree with Cookea as there is a massive dependency on vehicle usage in this country. People in my street take their cars to the shop at the bottom of the hill.. it’s less than 400m away.. 🤯.
I’m marvelling at the sight of the anti-brexit brigade wailing because the inability to pay uk and foreign workers a pittance is inconveniencing their lifestyle. You get what you bloody pay for, and in this case it’s not enough truck drivers to keep the shops and petrol stations stocked. If you think the solution is importing cheap labour then you’re deluded.
This is globalised neo-liberal economics coming home to roost. It’ll happen everywhere eventually, but we in the uk seem to have volunteered to be the guinea pigs for this brave new world.
Who says chivalry is dead?
WOKE innit 😉
