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I've appear to have reached the age where injuries take a long time to heal, I've had a recurrance of an old golfers elbow injury that has stopped me training one arm in the gym for 4 months now, I had a riding break too for a while as that would aggrovate it & switched to using the mouse with the other hand.
There are people at the gym I go to using all kinds of questionable substances, One is using Retatrutide for example. I have seen and heard a lot about peptides. BPC 157 combined with TB500 being the most common for injuries.
I am curious but cautious, has anyone used these? if so, and the outcome was positive, do you have a source you would recomend?
Cheers
If it were me AVOID.
Ai:
Peptides are short chains of 2 to around 100 amino acids, serving as the building blocks of proteins and playing essential roles in biological processes. They function as hormones, signalers, and structural components in the body and are used in medicines for conditions like diabetes and short bowel syndrome. While some peptides are approved for medical use, many circulating in the wellness and fitness market are experimental, lacking proper human trials and potentially carrying unknown risks.
I'd swerve - unregulated manufacture and many such peptides are research tools never intended for human consumption. They also usually need to be injected, which is an additional issue - our stomach and gut chomps peptides to bits.
Something like retatrutide is at least an actual drug in late-stage trials - still wouldn't fancy buying it on tiktok, but it has a proven biological activity (still to be proven side-effect profile), and comes from very deep research around Glp1 agonism. Peptides like RC-XYZBOLLOX is just reddit nonsense that I wouldn't go near personally.
My appetite for risk on these things is low, though - partly because I'm a chemist so know how they are made, but mainly because I don't have any injuries that bother me enough to consider them. I understand if you're struggling with something long term it can be hugely frustrating and you'll want to consider any possible solution.
Beef, lamb and eggs. Get ‘em down ya!
You know when people say about not having something even if it was free, well I was offered hundreds of pounds worth of peptides to promote and get paid. Total no from me when the packaging even says "not for human consumption" and "research only". This stuff is skirting around the legal boundaries. Do you really want to inject this stuff?
BPC 157 is also WADA banned
Rather than supplements I would suggest physiotherapy for your elbow. I'd look for good sport physio, even better one who treats a lot of climbers.
I am a climber and had really bad elbow tendonitis and took the above advice. Took a few months of rehab work to rebuild and strengthen the tendons but I've had zero issues subsequently.
One of the key takeaways was opium loading rather than complete rest for the affected elbow. In this case static loading. Physio did a plan of exercises with progressively greater loading within a level of discomfort to make sure I wasn't causing further issues.
You know when people say about not having something even if it was free, well I was offered hundreds of pounds worth of peptides to promote and get paid. Total no from me when the packaging even says "not for human consumption" and "research only". This stuff is skirting around the legal boundaries. Do you really want to inject this stuff?
BPC 157 is also WADA banned
I guess it's like spice and Mcat... They say not for consumption to get around laws but you've no idea what you're getting.. Sod that.
Just get on the gear properly if you're that way inclined... At least with steroids and testosterone it's pretty much a known quantity lol
Physio did a plan of exercises with progressively greater loading within a level of discomfort to make sure I wasn't causing further issues.
Similar for a partial tear of a planta fascia I suffered. Notoriously slow to heal. The difficult part was learning how much "discomfort" to allow. I asked about diet and the doctor just said to eat normally and asked a few questions to confirm we both had the same idea of eat normally.
🤠 If you are into new treatment possibilities see a vet, they use stem cell treatment on horse tendon injuries. 🤠
Cheers all, yeah I knew peptides are questionable & are unlikely to be the answer. Youtube makes them sound great though.
Rather than supplements I would suggest physiotherapy for your elbow. I'd look for good sport physio, even better one who treats a lot of climbers.
I am a climber and had really bad elbow tendonitis and took the above advice. Took a few months of rehab work to rebuild and strengthen the tendons but I've had zero issues subsequently.
One of the key takeaways was opium loading rather than complete rest for the affected elbow. In this case static loading. Physio did a plan of exercises with progressively greater loading within a level of discomfort to make sure I wasn't causing further issues.
I found an Austrailian Dr who was a climber & tried the exersizes he recomends, they hurt, so I either went too heavy or my elbow is not healed enough to be doing rehab yet. I found a thread on a climbers forum about elbow issues & found out about flex bars, which have for sure helped.
I have been seeing an Osteopath regularly & a Chiropractor who does Accupuncture & K-laser, these have not made a lot of difference even though they fixed the other elbow quickly a couple of years back. Could you recomend your physio please. How bad was your elbow and had you had multiple injuries? I've had this a few times & I am worried that the build up of scar tissue means it's beyond recovery.
As for getting on "Gear" I'd love to, if it were'nt for the side effects, and seeing some people become complete azzholes after abusing steroids.
@leegee I've messaged you with the Physio details
My injury was classic climber overuse. Basically ignoring the increasing pain until it became impossible to climb then finally going to the Physio. He basically said that muscle gets stronger much quicker than tendon and it's possible to overpower the tendons which overtime causes the injury. The rehab was basically to progressively strengthen the tendon. through specific exercises and load management