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So we are trying our best while working to do it right.
But it’s beyond me at break times the lads all pile into a tiny room together. No masks teas sarnies and YouTube etc.
They give me shit as I won’t go sit in their stinking covid fart box. Thing is they will get away with it as all line managers WFH. So it will probably me that gets in bother for braying one of the numptys.
Nearly snapped a few times this week. What’s the point in wearing masks in a large warehouse environment then all going into an unventilated box for an hour to shout nonsense at each other!
Brainless selfish tossers
Have you reported this?
Natural Selection!
We now live in a world where not giving a shit and rejecting all reason and responsibility are seen as positives.
Difficult one, I work intermittently across a few places and a lot seem to have settled on a philosophy that if one person gets it then they're all going to have it. No ammount of hand sanitizer or mask wearing can really help if you're in a portacabin with 6 others for 10 hours.
No ammount of hand sanitizer or mask wearing can really help if you’re in a portacabin with 6 others for 10 hours.
No employer should be getting people to work like that though should they? I'd like to see the risk assessment.
We have a small canteen at work which can sit 8 people at a time
Rules are face masks only to be removed once sat down
Each table has a perspex divider so you can see and talk to each other but you have a physical barrier
Once you are finished face mask goes back on and you wipe down your table and chair with sanitizer
Hand gel is at the entrance and the sink has hand soap
No matter the size the canteen is things can be done to make them safer, unfortunately its up to the company/management to install and police them
It is awkward. If I report them my life won’t be worth living.
One of them has a family member with covid symptoms though. So will probably end up self isolating (hmmm, slight coincidence with half term) then The spilling of the beans Will be happening.
Or I carefully remove all their network cables when they go home.
Each table has a perspex divider so you can see and talk to each other but you have a physical barrier
Once you are finished face mask goes back on and you wipe down your table and chair with sanitizer
I think it's needed but it is very depressing that this is what our lives look like now. 🙁
I'm constantly amused at the gulf between those WFH who are still quarantining their online supermarket deliveries and disinfecting bridleway gates - and the rest of the population out trying to negotiate workplaces that have given up any pretence at Covid security. I say amused - it would be funny if it wasn't such a socio-economic class based scandal.
No employer should be getting people to work like that though should they?
Unless teachers are involved.
^ too true , well said.
Meanwhile we're still pretty strictly wfh and a few of us decided to catch up at a cafe, outdoors, SD as per rules at the time, to off load a bit. Someone saw us and mentioned it to a manager and we were told off. Told it had to be totally out I work hours, or we had to be on leave.
We're supposed to wear masks at all times when we arent sat at our desks. Thing is it's a well ventilated building, quite large and theres only ever six of us in there so we dont bother and just make sure to maintain 2m distance.
These guys are five or six of them in a room about 2 by 5 meters. Door closed
They may as well bum each other and be done with it
The op should try visiting a few construction sites, one site manager insisted on shaking my hand & told me the whole cv19 just meant more paperwork to him, another client just told me he reconned it was all a hoax. These aren't on pissy little builders sites either..
Edit-just remembered a site I went to yesterday, their h&s manager had infected a few of them during a recent visit 🤔
We have a new starter who has been training with me a reasonable amount. I raised concerns about sharing a van for 4-5 hours a day. He also isnt that careful covid wise, which is up to him until I have to sit in the same small van cab with him for most of the day.
Nothing happened despite me being clear I wasn't happy and one day he coughed for the entire journey, I caught a cold and a throat infection shortly after. It ruined my week and it could have been Covid, it may not have been from him but it's a fair chance.
So I refused to let him in the van and he had to drive separately to every job, which obviously is massively expensive as he's not making the company money while training and it's double congestion charge, double parking and fuel.
There is now a plastic screen in the van which isn't ideal but a reasonable compromise.
Loads of sites I attend make a big thing about signing a bit of paper to say I don't have covid, take your temperature then carry on as normal.
I know dickyboy. We work within a massive construction site. Its as if nothing has happened.
Construction sites are terrible for it. I've been on one this week which is for a big national level builder. The site is new so the guys are going round putting up signs for a one way system, telling you only one person can go in the bathroom at a time, to social distance, to sanitise and wear masks everywhere inside except when eating in a booth in the tiny canteen.
Management at the head office are clearly taking it very seriously but none of the guys are doing what they're supposed to and the site managers aren't bothered. I just stayed in my van when I wasn't supervising an excavation. When I'm on our own sites the maximum number of people on site is only two anyway and we always keep apart.
No employer should be getting people to work like that though should they?
Unless teachers are involved.
Was about to say the same thing.
Barely any pretence of social distancing in my school now.
Year groups are being kept separate at break and lunch, but are mixing in the corridors and before/after school.
One way system in place, but apparently only if you feel like it, which most staff don't seem to.
Kids getting in my face, not hand sanitising, and refusing to wipe down computers/mice/benches.
One of them threw a tissue in my face today when I had the temerity to ask him to bin it.
We're not meant to lend equipment out, but what do I do in a DT lesson (drawing only at the moment, no practical) when half the class don't even have a pencil or ruler?
I'm just waiting for the inevitable now. Woo-hoo.
Going to have to try stay cool.
Will be a long winter. And it could be a lot worse and all that.
More sleep and more pedalling.
This thread is concerning. I knew things were slipping but I didn't realise so many people had just given up completely/didn't give a shit.
Great news for my high risk category partner with 2 kids going to school every day - never mind their prick of a father who's having them for half term and also doesn't care :-/
Unless teachers are involved.
My partner is a teaching assistant, in and of itself a primary vector for whatever's going round under normal circumstances. Her head teacher is a control freak who has mandated that they aren't allowed to wear masks and aren't allowed to have the T&T app running in school.
Meanwhile, her sister is a CV denier going to the 2020 equivalent of a pox party. How we've not come down with it yet I've no idea. Oh yeah, and her daughter is high-risk and self-isolating, I've been doing an hour's round trip twice a week for months now to take their bins out and in.
Her head teacher is a control freak who has mandated that they aren’t allowed to wear masks
I'd have a mask on all day if my head said that, call a unionn asap.
My partner (a teacher) so did 3 others at her school, 4 kids in one year group means that years off. My school hasnt had any but I reckon I must have been asymptomatic dont see how I could have been sleeping in the same bed and not catch it.
Agree it's concerning, but do be aware some trades, eg construction that need to work close together are in 'bubble' arrangements so that they have effectively become one person. Seeing a group working together or sat on a table together having their lunch is not always having given up on any pretence of SD
Not been on a site for a while but social distancing would be impossible without staggered brew times on most jobs I've worked on (Assuming the lads are arsed about covid which is not usually the case)
Even pre covid I ate in the van if cabins were too crowded TBH
Our offices still at 25-30% occupancy, based on business or welfare need.
Looking at local secondary schools and colleges, all have had 10-20 pups test positive. Close contacts have been told to isolate, if numbers high enough, whole year groups sent home.
Maybe half of those schools have had one teacher test positive, the others none. While I totally get the concerns, and attitudes seem to vary by head teacher, I'm not seeing the issues locally that everyone expected, in areas that are Tier 2 and probably about to go Tier 3.
Either the apparently unsuitable social distancing is working somehow at these local schools, or we've been lucky.
Work in a print factory. Rules observed in only the loosest sense. Lots of posters up so obviously everyone is safe. Lots more coming back in next week as furlough ends so even greater density of people. I think masks should be mandatory even though they'd be a massive pain for me in specs all day.
Kids getting in my face, not hand sanitising, and refusing to wipe down computers/mice/benches.
One of them threw a tissue in my face today when I had the temerity to ask him to bin it.
I definitely don't have the patience to be a teacher...
I work in construction/ maintenance on housing. Four of us in a tenanted house is not uncommon. Someone sneezes in the office and it’s closed for yet another deep clean. We are the scum who wear dirty clothes to work, class prejudice alive and well in Britain.
No employer should be getting people to work like that though should they? I’d like to see the risk assessment.
If they can justify it, of course they can. Lots of people are forced to work in close quarters or aren't allowed to wear masks.
Smoking kills 75000 a year obesity kills 30000 a year, idiots the lot of em.
No employer should be getting people to work like that though should they? I’d like to see the risk assessment.
I don't understand how you think most jobs are operating at the moment - This is impossible in most industries that can't have people working from home
First job of the day picking an old guy off the floor of his house where he’s been lying all night, washing a cut out on his hand and then messaging everyone I can think of as he has no health visitors or family. I’m a painter and decorator not a health visitor. All whilst we are in Tier 3 as my city has run out of hospital beds as our new multi billion pound hospital is still not finished as Carillion where in charge and all cashed in their shares and left us bankrupt. Rant whilstI wait for any response off anyone to help his situation. If you voted in the bunch of cants at No 10 Brian at No.4 thanks you whilst sitting screwed and hopeless in his wheelchair.
Thing is they will get away with it as all line managers WFH.
maybe it’s worth pointing out to the managers that if the little covid fart box was locked they wouldn’t have to worry about policing how it’s used.
The whole thing is a mess. You could go to the pub with a number of work colleagues for a 'working lunch', but you and a friend can't go.
Just nuts. T3 in my village, not T3 next door, similar infection rates, locals in T2 about to get pitch forks out.
Then you can do as you please at school, work, college ! FFS.
I don’t understand how you think most jobs are operating at the moment – This is impossible in most industries that can’t have people working from home
I thought it would be hard in many workplaces especially smaller ones but was assuming there would be some attempt at control measures.
But yeah I've not had any work at all for months so I wouldn't know. :-/
Seeing a group working together or sat on a table together having their lunch is not always having given up on any pretence of SD
This is a good point.
If they can justify it, of course they can. Lots of people are forced to work in close quarters or aren’t allowed to wear masks.
How can you justify it? I'm amazed at how relaxed some companies, particularly in the construction sector, are being. To my mind it's similar to asbestosis - if you could determine through track and trace that you picked up Covid at work because people weren't social distancing the employer could potentially be liable. It's not happened yet but it'd only take one court case for those floodgates to open. If you look at the H&S stuff now in place to deal with asbestos, a thing we know kills people and all workplaces where you might come into contact with it from offices to construction sites have very robust policies for, and compare it to how Covid is being handled there's a huge discrepancy.
Looking at the data on Page 13 of the latest track and trace document shows that, excluding shopping which I'd deem properly essential, going to work is an activity carried out by more people that get Covid than any of the social activities.
While I totally get the concerns, and attitudes seem to vary by head teacher, I’m not seeing the issues locally that everyone expected,
My partners covid was reported in local press as a pupil. I've seen 4 teachers I know test positive, plus a couple of support staff.
Marin
Free MemberFirst job of the day picking an old guy off the floor of his house where he’s been lying all night, washing a cut out on his hand and then messaging everyone I can think of as he has no health visitors or family. I’m a painter and decorator not a health visitor. All whilst we are in Tier 3 as my city has run out of hospital beds as our new multi billion pound hospital is still not finished as Carillion where in charge and all cashed in their shares and left us bankrupt. Rant whilst I wait for any response off anyone to help his situation. If you voted in the bunch of cants at No 10 Brian at No.4 thanks you whilst sitting screwed and hopeless in his wheelchair.
Well done Greg, its a horrible situation made worse by the utter tossers you mentioned