Pension Query
 

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Pension Query

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I'm 55 in a few years and can take out 25% on my pension, question is can I put it straight back in and get the tax relief on it?


 
Posted : 08/08/2024 7:48 pm
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No. It's known as pension recycling and there are rules against it.

That 25% tax free sum might be nice but there are lots of good reasons to not to take it so its worth doing some research and maybe getting some advice


 
Posted : 08/08/2024 8:00 pm
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Once you start to withdraw money from your pension you’re only allowed to put a maximum of £2880 per year into it from then on should you wish to still contribute to it again.


 
Posted : 08/08/2024 8:44 pm
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its more complex than is being stated (of course it is...its pensions)

you can take the 25% tax free - and still contribute into your pension. If you're working ("earned income" in the parlance) I think the standard rules  apply (60k PA or max annual earnings)

Once you've made a withdrawal from the remaining 75% (i.e. as taxable income/flexible drawdown) that's when the recycling rules come in - known as MPAA  - its 10k per year and is worth further research - I have the gist but won't write it down as im not certain / dont want to make a mistake.

The £2880net/£3600 gross is for non-working people (children, UK tax payers abroad etc)

The Chris Bourne (he's an IFA) video's on YouTube will have the answer - he's a good communicator - I'd start there.


 
Posted : 09/08/2024 3:01 am
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you can take the 25% tax free – and still contribute into your pension. If you’re working (“earned income” in the parlance) I think the standard rules  apply (60k PA or max annual earnings)

Once you’ve made a withdrawal from the remaining 75% (i.e. as taxable income/flexible drawdown) that’s when the recycling rules come in – known as MPAA  – its 10k per year and is worth further research

Exactly right.  I did exactly that at start of this year.  Unfortunately I completely screwed it up before that as I had cashed in an old pension completely and taken more than £10K of the 75% (Only just as was a small £30K old pension) so am now limited to £10,000 a year which was very stupid of me bering in mind my good company pension additional contribution matching.


 
Posted : 09/08/2024 5:33 am
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Can you take the tax free amount and shove 20k into a s&s ISA? Or does that count as recycling too?


 
Posted : 09/08/2024 6:16 am
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I’m not sure what the benefit of this would be since if you leave it be it’s still growing effectively tax free anyway, potentially in a larger fund and with more growth potential assuming it’s sensibly invested and without high charges.


 
Posted : 09/08/2024 7:45 am
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Can you take the tax free amount and shove 20k into a s&s ISA? Or does that count as recycling too?

You can do what you want with it.  Recycling is only about money going back into pension.


 
Posted : 09/08/2024 7:52 am
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Yes you can recycle, within limits and a few rules.

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/pensions-tax-manual/ptm133810

Basically £7500 every two years.


 
Posted : 09/08/2024 8:01 am

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