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My road has inadequate space to accommodate all the vehicles from the various flats and houses, plus being a stonesthrow from the town centre every Tom, Dick and Harriet parks in our street to avoid parking fees in town..
I'm in the slightly envious position of having a garage in the back lane..
It has a big NO PARKING sign and the locals are well aware that a valued parking space is not to be messed with..

So far, so good..

Our neighbours a few doors up have been having building work done since spring, doubling the size of their house and adding what is either a new national observatory or perhaps a migrant camp to their roof..
Living next door to a noisy building site for the last six months has been mildly irritating, but imagine my wraith when I got back from the school run to find a decorators van parked in front of my garage with a cheery note informing me that they are working at number 18 as if somehow that should absolve them from responsibility..

Should I let it go and park half a mile away?
Should I pop round and politely request that they move it?

Or was I right in my choice of action, which was to leave a note on their windscreen informing them that I couldn't give a stuff if they were working in Buckingham Palace shaving her majesty the Queen's bikini line they still haven't got the right to park in front of my garage.. I also asked if it would be OK for me to come around and park in his drive tonight..


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:10 am
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Passive aggression is always the right answer.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:11 am
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One of those a one off is fine but time and it happening a lot starts to grate

I would have actually spoken to them though.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:14 am
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You know there's only one answer:


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:16 am
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I suspect they left the note explaining where they were working so that you could go and ask them to move if needs be.
Still, I'm sure your response was the most appropriate.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:17 am
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You should have also threatened to bumb his dog. Only way they will learn (the painters, not the dog. Some would say the dog had nothing to do with it. You'll show them though, won't you?)


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:19 am
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I would have asked them to move it and not park their in future. The painter can park a few streets away too.

If the neighbour was one I was on good terms with and they had asked in advance then for a short time they could park there if it wasn't a big inconvenience.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:20 am
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I suspect the OP's going to get home and find his garage door's been decorated.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:21 am
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Passive aggressive

'rights'

mountain out of mole hill

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delighted at own wit

You're needed over on the trick or treat thred


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:22 am
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Politely pop round surely?

Now not only does the decorator think you're a Dilbert, but probably your neighbour does too. All because you couldn't calm down a bit.

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Posted : 23/10/2015 9:24 am
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Don't worry.

They won't take it personally, and you've probably given him and the other builders something to laugh about today.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:24 am
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I suspect they left the note explaining where they were working so that you could go and ask them to move if needs be.
true but where do you put your car while you go get the vehicle owner? A few streets away? leave it blocking the road while you go look for them and compounding the issue?

The only guaranteed parking spot is one you own, someone blocking that is not really on. One off is a faff, more than once would be very annoying


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:27 am
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What I'm getting from your responses is that it would have been more appropriate to daub 'your mum's working at number 18' across his windscreen in decorator's caulk?

FWIW I reckon McHamish's response is the most insightful 🙂

I shall definitely refer to the offending workman as 'cheekychops' when he comes out to move his van later


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:33 am
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Should I let it go and park half a mile away?
[b]Should I pop round and politely request that they move it?[/b]

Or was I right in my choice of action, which was to leave a note on their windscreen informing them that I couldn't give a stuff if they were working in Buckingham Palace shaving her majesty the Queen's bikini line they still haven't got the right to park in front of my garage.. I also asked if it would be OK for me to come around and park in his drive tonight..


They left the note for exactly this reason.
Your choice of note would simply encourage me to park in front of your garage as there are no legal parking restrictions. Suck it up sweetlips.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:38 am
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Should I pop round and politely request that they move it?
Yep, you could have behaved like an adult but you showed them 😛


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:41 am
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first time, ask them politely to move it
subsequent times, abandon car and block them in

I have this almost every single day. I have a city center garage with about one space to pull car off the road to gain access to the garage, and 1-2 spaces parked on the dropped kerb.

the traffic wardens can't ticket anyone abandoning their car on "our" property, and don't seem to give tickets for anyone abandoning their cars on our dropped kerb. they only dish out tickets to those parked in the metered bay that have overstayed etc.

the proprietor of a local shop and his staff park there every effing day, without fail, and must get told (not asked, but told) to move cars several times per day. all to save the purchase of a season ticket to park anywhere within the whole metered district. pillocks.

and their customers similarly abandon their cars, knowing that because they're only in the shop for 15 minutes, they are absolved of all responsibility cos they can quickly move it out the way. hazard warning lights also seem to mean "I'm not staying all that long, so don't need a parking ticket".

I can similarly abandon my car on my dropped kerb, leaving about 1 inch of space 😉

calling then c***s daily has no effect at reducing the car abandonment. they honestly CGAS. and I doubt the cops GAS either.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:42 am
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Nickjb - behave like an adult!?

Grow up sonny Jim.. 😆

Who in their right mind goes through life looking for opportunities to behave like an adult!?


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:45 am
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PS it's also a one way street.
Apparently one-way means it's only really mostly one way, and if you only need to get to (someone else's) parking space 50m from the exit end of the street, it's fine to just "nip down the wrong way".
And I've also been told to reverse up and give them space so they can finish their "manoeuvre", and that with me attempting to exit my garage and street, I am blocking them and holding them (and the rest of the traffic) up.

And here in Germany, it's illegal to perform expletive gesticulations when at the wheel.

When they have that mentality, you stand no chance of winning.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:50 am
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calling then c***s daily has no effect at reducing the car abandonment. they honestly CGAS. and I doubt the cops GAS either.

Why should the GAS when they're not doing anything illegal and some busy body cross between Victor Meldrew and Hyacinth Bucket come gobbing off with obscene langauge talking about some space that they believe is "theirs"?
Some people need to get a grip. 🙄
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Posted : 23/10/2015 9:50 am
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dropped kerb is a legal access, not "my" parking space.
space off the road is not anyone's parking space.
as a comparison that'd be the equivalent of either parking on your drive for 15 minutes while I nip to the shops, or parking across your front gate, which is not quite the same as parking outside your house on the bit of street that homeowners might believe is "theirs".

so essentially what we have is a street, that is metered parking both sides, except for all the driveway access, that appears to be free for anyone to use at any time. (edit: and regularly used ALL the time)


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 9:57 am
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Get some of that reflective spray stuff and spray a cock n balls on the back of the van.

Invisible until they're driving home in the dark and providing amusement for the vehicle following.

(I can't be the only one who thought of amusing things to do with reflective spray other than make your bike more visible?)


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:00 am
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with a cheery note informing me that they are working at number 18 as if somehow that [s]should absolve them from responsibility[/s] would make it easy for another sensible adult to easily locate them should the van need to be moved..

Fixed etc.

leave a note on their windscreen informing them that I couldn't give a stuff if they were working in Buckingham Palace shaving her majesty the Queen's bikini line they still haven't got the right to park in front of my garage

Have you considered a career in showbiz? Really, with that level of wit, both clever and devastatingly funny, you could be the next big thing. I bet the decorators are even now asking their client why he hadn't mentioned that they lived next door to one of humanity's greatest wits. You're like the lovechild of Peter Ustinov and Alan Bennett.

I bet you send really, really hilariously funny emails complaining about poor service from big companies too, don't you?

Must dash, the ironing won't do itself..


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:03 am
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To wit, to woo


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:09 am
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Why should the GAS when they're not doing anything illegal
pretty sure blocking access to drives/garages is illegal


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:18 am
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dropped kerb is a legal access, not "my" parking space.
space off the road is not anyone's parking space.
as a comparison that'd be the equivalent of either parking on your drive for 15 minutes while I nip to the shops, or parking across your front gate, which is not quite the same as parking outside your house on the bit of street that homeowners might believe is "theirs".

so essentially what we have is a street, that is metered parking both sides, except for all the driveway access, that appears to be free for anyone to use at any time. (edit: and regularly used ALL the time)

Why can't you put one, or a couple, of something like this at the entrance to your garage access then?

[url= http://www.barriersdirect.co.uk/parking-posts-c1087/folding-posts-c1089/folding-parking-post-yellow-express-delivery-p516 ]Folding Parking Post[/url]


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:22 am
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Highway says "Do not" not "Must not" [url= https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiting-and-parking-238-to-252 ]https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-highway-code/waiting-and-parking-238-to-252[/url]. No associated law.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:24 am
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In the next village from me, there lives a couple who are so possessive over the piece of road outside their house that they bought, taxed and insured two extra cars to prevent anyone else parking there - one immediately in front of their house, one in front of their non-driving elderly neighbours driveway. This 'protected' both sides of the entrance to their driveway where they keep the two cars that they use each day. They had a wobble recently when the elderly neighbours house was sold, and the new owner wanted to use their driveway, but eventually and begrudgingly accepted they would have to move one of the protector cars. Batshit mental some people.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:38 am
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folding parking post could stop people parking on the one space that's fully off the road, but won't stop them parking on the dropped kerb / pavement. there used to be one on an adjacent space that was reserved for one property but that's gone. so that space just gets uses as free parking too, but that's not blocking access to shared garage.

germany, so highway code doesn't apply in this case, although it will for the OP. but given that the proprietor, staff and customers have never bought ticket from the machine, and afaik have never got a fine in several years, I would assume that german highway laws are similar. the traffic wardens do pay attention to cars abandoned in the hatched area at the ends of the street, but most of those tend to be a quick 30s to post a letter (if they haven't just double parked right by the letterbox), or to get 50€ out of the ATM.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 10:49 am
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Yep, you could have behaved like an adult but you showed them

You're new here aren't you? That sort of behaviour has no place on STW.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:12 am
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you could have behaved like an adult blah blah blah

Your mum could have behaved like an adult


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:16 am
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Neighbourly good relations are more important than getting upset over parking. Very occasionally I have come home and found visitors to my neighbour's house blocking my drive. I park outside, go in for my supper them move the car in later when they've gone. If they see me they are usually very apologetic but I just smile and wave it off. Nothing hard about that.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:21 am
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My street is a bit like that - not much parking, near the town, one way etc. And for some reason a lot of people who can't reverse park, and must circle the block until a double space frees up, so they can park across two spaces.

I know it is petty but I am surprised how annoyed this makes me. How hard is it to back to the end of the space - it's a straight line !! Shouldn't be allowed to drive.

A wee red car did this the other day, then the car behind moved, so did the car in front. So I parked right on their bumper and a neighbour got the idea and parked them in at the front !! Small victories. Very very petty small victories.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:27 am
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I understand the need to be a good neighbour, and would be happy to shrug it off if it wouldn't involve me adding an hour or two to my day as me and my three year old wander back and forth to a parking space across town


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:30 am
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[quote=yunki ]Your mum could have behaved like an adult

Yours did when I was last round 😉


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:35 am
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I understand the need to be a good neighbour, and would be happy to shrug it off if it wouldn't involve me [s]adding an hour or two to my day as me and my three year old wander back and forth to a parking space across town[/s] popping next door and asking the decorators if they could move their van

Talking to people? Radical idea, I know, but might be slightly easier. Also potentially quicker than writing an 'amusing' note for them?


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:38 am
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let their tyres down and leave a note saying you've just borrowed it for a minute and that you're in number 20 if they want it back. when they knock on the door burp/ fart in their face. BOOM.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 11:55 am
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I understand the need to be a good neighbour, and would be happy to shrug it off if it wouldn't involve me adding an hour or two to my day as me and my three year old wander back and forth to a parking space across town in the driving sleet, with only rags on our feet, fighting impossible odds against ogres and the wicked witches of fate, clinging to each others pale, pathetic shivering bodies while fortune casts a steely, indifferent eye over out plight, hoping against hope that one day, one glorious sunlit morn that the builders will have moved their van.


 
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😀


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 12:06 pm
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Highway says "Do not" not "Must not"
see there's me making assumptions again, thought [i]do not[/i] meant, erm, don't do it, I keep forgetting that whenever cars are involved it's only [s]simon says[/s] [b]must not[/b] that actually matters. Anything else such as [i]do not[/i] or [i]should not[/i] or [i]please refrain[/i] means [i]go right ahead we don't mind[/i].

Car centric bollocks.

BTW bit of googling says [url= http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/content/parking-and-travel/parking/contravention-codes-explanation ]brighton and hove[/url] will ticket you for it(contravention 27), so I assume there's some legislation for it. I dunno if it's a UK wide thing or only certain councils, IANAL so you'd have to speak to one of them for UK law but I'd have thought wheaton's law covers this.


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 12:50 pm
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I believe it is OK to park in front of a garage/driveway as long as it's empty but it's illegal to stop someone from accessing the public highway from their drive/garage. Anyone else heard of this?


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 1:02 pm
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I've read comments like that on other sites but it sounded to me like a "the law according to my mate down the pub" factoid, no idea tho


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 1:13 pm
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So are we of the opinion that my note which was intended to be a bit abrasive but softened with humour fell a bit short of the mark?

I couldn't be bothered wandering on site with my kid, finding the bloke and waiting around for him to come down and move it..
I was hoping a humorous note that he will spot after work might just dissuade him from doing it again..

Seems as though some think I should have opted to be a thoroughly decent chap about it all...

After being told off by you masterful bunch of social giants, I'm sure that I'll be in no doubt about what constitutes gentlemanly conduct in future 😆


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 1:31 pm
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put a note on the door saying the latch mechanism is broke and its not unknown for the doors to spring open which much speed and force. parking there would be unwise.

Love that youtube clip btw. 10/10


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 1:57 pm
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After being told off by you masterful bunch of social giants, I'm sure that I'll be in no doubt about what constitutes gentlemanly conduct in future

The site would be happy if you used accepted terminology to describe its members. The words you were looking for were 'Big Hitters'.

(Although I must agree that whilst it no doubt sounded funny in your head at the time it really does read back badly)


 
Posted : 23/10/2015 2:10 pm

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