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Conte to Spuds ?
More likely to RM, although it is debatable if the 3 remaining super league clubs will be in the CL next year, so may not be a good time to commit to one of them.
Not first five but there you go binners. Shocking marking.
Didn't think there was actual contact by Cavani on the Villarreal player for the freekick.
Feels like Utd will need Villarreal to tire a bit, they're looking very well drilled at the moment. I think Wan Bissaka and Shaw need to put a few more crosses in with Cavani as a target man
Didn’t put the first half as expected United to romp it. Now I’ve got it on they’ll come roaring back.
Rashford should have scored just now
Rashford looks like he’s won a Shreddies competition to get on the pitch tonight.
They’re so much better than Villarreal but created very little bar the goal and Rashford’s sitter. Villarreal playing for penalties ever since the equaliser.
It's pretty dull
Rope a dope from Villarreal? They’ve woken up.
It's not a classic
Bringing on 2 penalty takers in the last minute is an insane gamble. Ole clearly doesn’t have faith in they or the rest of the bench to win the game beforehand.
One of the worst finals I’ve ever witnessed.
Penalties. Can Bruno sky one please?
What's the betting one or both will miss? Have they even had a kick?
Reckon McT will nail the deciding pen.
He was subbed off.
Even the pens are dull
Agreed!
when does next season start?
he's no Alisson
De Gea's pen was rubbish
😆😆😆
Thank Christ for that, I can go to bed now.
couldn't **** it up by fluffing a save, during 120 minutes, so screwed it with taking a penalty 😂😂😂😂😂
Oh Bruno, don’t be sad. 😀
To be fair, they were great penalties by Villarreal
Yep, tactically they snuffed Utd out during the 120 minutes too. Two shots on target? Pogba and Bruno pretty poor when they needed them to step up.
Why didn't he use his subs much earlier? Either he has no confidence in them or he's tactically naïve. Madness
What is the issue with Van De Beek? So weird to spend that money on someone and not really give him a proper run. Is it a personality thing?
Subs and Van de beek - Ole doesn’t trust them or think they’re good enough is my thoughts. Remember he sees them in training day in day out. Plenty of other big money signings at other clubs who’ve flopped.
I guess it must be. I just watched a highlights reel on YT and he clearly has a lot of talent. You'd think though that if Pogba can be reintegrated into the team after a lot of upset and some truly shocking performances, then anyone can.
I feel like Ole doesn't have a plan b when his 'hit them on the break' strategy doesn't work. They were incredibly lacklustre. I'll say again he's done fairly well but I don't think they'll ever win a major trophy with him in charge. League position has flattered them this season.
I feel like Ole doesn’t have a plan b when his ‘hit them on the break’ strategy doesn’t work
you can say that again. That was like watching an England 'last 16 at a world cup' match where we come up against a decent side, don't know what to do and just huff and puff.
The Guardian MBM reporter said at half time that Utd needed someone to pick the lock and should consider de Beek or Mata. But they just kept banging their head on door and to everyone's surprise, it didn't give way.
Poor old Rashford looked way off his game. I kept forgetting Greenwood was even on the pitch. And I'm fairly sure Cavani made more essential defensive tackles than the actual defence!
Cavani was the only one moving off the ball to try and create options, everyone else were just standing around waiting for something to happen.
As I said a couple of weeks ago.
Last nights game was really clear at the difference between a team who a properly coached and a team who are just put out on the pitch with the hope that individuals can deliver.
I don't think Ole even has a plan A, he just massages the egos and puts the players on the pitch, whether they play well or not isn't down to anything he coaches them to do.
Poch in talks to return to spurs, didn't see that coming, and is probably the only move that could persuade Kane to stay.
I don’t think Ole even has a plan A, he just massages the egos and puts the players on the pitch, whether they play well or not isn’t down to anything he coaches them to do.
I read a thing recently suggesting managers only make 8% difference. It's a bit nebulous but...
I agree, Ole doesn't seem a tactical genius. But this season they scored more goals, equalled their best finish, and racked up their 2nd best points total since SAF left.
Ole isn't gonna have them overhauling Pep. But it's debatable that anyone could, in the next couple of years at least...
I read a thing recently suggesting managers only make 8% difference. It’s a bit nebulous but…
Was that written before the Bielsa Effect on the Leeds team?
8% is like having an extra player on the pitch.
If Poch is unsettled at PSG, united should move heaven and earth to get him. I mean I hope they stick with Ole, but it would likely be a genuinely competitive season with Pep at city, Klop at Liverpool. Tuchel at Chelsea and Poch at united.
I’m a big fan of Poch and wouldn’t like to see him at United but has he actually won anything? Didn’t even win ligue 1 with PSG, admittedly joining halfway through the season.
The problem at PSG is the players. Tuchel is working with arguably less talented players at Chelsea and has turned them into a decent team after he was sacked by PSG in December
alternatively, 8% is like +/- 5.9 points for Utd this year. Which would have affected their league position by a maximum of one place! So yeah it's pretty nebulous.
it would likely be a genuinely competitive season with Pep at city, Klop at Liverpool. Tuchel at Chelsea and Poch at united.
as a premier league neutral, I'd love that!
But there's also talk of Spurs trying to get him back to, uh, The Tottenham Hotspur Stadium - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57268046
Also I can't help but think of Thomas Tuchel as Tommy Tuckle, a fictional wartime popular entertainer with a repertoire of banjo songs and bawdy jokes
In other news Zidane has quit at Real Madrid so maybe ZZ could end up at WBA next year?
Perhaps Allardici could go the other way? It's the job he was born for
Anyone watching the Champions League Final tonight? As a neutral I'm still a little excited. Hopefully a little better than that dull affaire last Wednesday.
On YouTube for free through bt sport's if anyone needs it.
Although the kids want masked singer
C'mon Citeh!
It's the traditional clash of Middle East billionaire's play thing versus a Russian billionaire's play thing. Just like Roy of the Rovers
As a city fan the nervous energy is starting to build up, since Dias's arrival our ability to have a collapse of confidence seems to have diminished, but I wonder how much of that has been due to the lack of fans as well. I think in seasons past the nerves of the fans in the terraces was felt by the players on the pitch. A win tonight would get a monkey of our back and hopefully lead to a new confidence.
I think our best team beats Chelsea's best most times, I hope we can get some early goals so I can enjoy it, otherwise I will end up a nervous wreck.
If Chelsea score first it will be a bore fest (not quite as bad as Weds display of crap footy).
Let's hope it's an exciting game
No recognised defensive midfielder in the city starting line up, Pep doesn't intend it to be a bore fest.
And the best news of the day, Brentford are in the Premier League.
Lets hope they can hold their own against the 'bigger' sides.
Never thought I'd find myself supporting Chelsea but as a neutral I have to support the underdog really. Also will find it a bit nauseating when all the City fans who've spent years claiming the CL doesn't matter suddenly change their tune if they win it. 🙂
Edit: Did City just decide not to bother defending? Werner could have had three if he could shoot
Bit of an enigma is Werner, seems to have all the attributes of a top striker but hasn't a clue where the goal is - in a Chelsea shirt.
He's the 2020s version of Gary Birtles
Oi, Birtles won this twice...
When Werner finally finds out where the goal is he'll be lethal. Strange of Guardiola to play no defensive midfielders but also no focal point in attack. City need to change something at the moment
Yep it's all set up for the little Argentinian.
Rudiger took out KdeB there. Nasty
Werner couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. Just like Sterling at the other end. Do all the work the when faced with a shot on goal, look like a rabbit in the headlights and put it into row z
This wasn’t what I was expecting though. Maybe it’s just one of those weeks where every Manchester club involved in European action have to be a bit shit
It’s not looking good for Citeh with Kev off
What’s the worst thing about all this is that we have to listen to Steve McManomanomanomanoman
Why? Just why?
Hoddle is just as bad..."he has to stay concentrated"
WTF!.. he's not degreaser
Werner couldn’t hit a cows arse with a banjo
Have to a big banjo and giant cow.
Steve Munamana is so high pitched I'm hoping one day I'll no longer hear him.
City need to sort this out. John Terry has his full Chelsea kit on
It’s hard to buy a UCL. Even for cash strapped plucky outsiders like Citeh.
City didn't even come close, Chelsea were deserved winners
Pep outthought himself again.
Some enjoyable swearing from Havertz there 😆
Pep outthought himself again
Maybe he underthought it this time. City were really poor.
City were really poor.
+1
To be fair, they have such a small squad and a tiny wage bill...
I think Guardiola got it completely wrong tonight.
Disappointing!
That’s the worst City performance I’ve seen for a long time
Chelski had the measure of them from the off
Pep isn't great at knockout football is he
Guardiola overthinking it again. Too defensive in the past in the clutch knockout games. Too attacking this time. I mean why have Gundogan as yr alleged defensive midfielder, particularly when you have no striker and Gundogan is the guy who's been getting the goals..
Chelsea cut them open almost at will in the 1st half and as mentioned above if Werner could even get close to the rear end of a cud chewing bovine with a large hillbilly stringed instrument they'd have deservedly been two up at half-time.
Better from Citeh in the 2nd half, but never really looked like scoring. Best team won.
My 15yr old Citeh fan demonstrated the full gamut of inappropriate language, but was let off with a yellow card and a warning as to his future conduct 😀
I see Sergio Aguero has joined 'the best club in the world'.
At least us City fans had some fun in the build up.
😂 He’ll be praying they win it this decade as the one could be altered to another digit.
He’ll be praying they win it this decade as the one could be altered to another digit.
He'll be hoping that the final in question is held at Fratton Park, as well. 🙂
Just checked out the odds for the Euro’s and Engerland are favourites and Harry Kane is favourite for highest scorer.
Madness.
The odds on other teams and players are absolutely mental! Stick a load of bets on less insane predictions now before the bookies come to their senses
Pretty amazing story for Morecambe, my most local not-completely-hopeless team.
They've been fighting relegation from the football league for years and were bottom of League 2 when the current manager took over 18 months ago - now they've just won a playoff final against Newport for promotion into League 1.
Shame they had to rely on some fairly dubious refereeing decisions to get there but hey!
@binners that will be largely due to 'patriotic betting' meaning they have to reduce their odds to reduce liabilities, as so many people will lump on England regardless of actual likelihood of winning.
Yeah, the Kane (and England) odds are just the bookies making sure they aren't in the hole for large amounts if a portal to an alternate universe opens and a decent England team strolls out.
This is just how bonkers the odds are at the moment
Top scorers:
Kane: 5/1
Lukaku 7/1
Mbappe 9/1
Ronaldo 10/1
Benzema 17/1
Griezmann 21/1
Lewandowski 26/1
Overall winner:
Engerland 5/1
France 6.5/1
Belgium 7.5/1
Spain 8/1
Italy 9/1
Germany 9/1
I think I might have a punt on Engerland not getting out of the group. Thats a safer bet than them winning it
I'm surprised that Portugal aren't in that short list, they've got a very good team
Portugal are 11/1.
Probably worth a punt on that too.
Also: Are they using VAR? I presume so. If so then penalties will surely be more frequent which would surely bring a few more into play as top goalscorer. I'm thinking Bruno, as he can score plenty from open play too and he's 67/1
If he's allowed to take them, obviously