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He's scored loads in Serie A this season, but thats a very different league from the premiership, largely conducted at walking pace
^^^Er he plays in Spain... still got time to edit???
Shows how much I know. I thought he'd gone to Italy. Just having a quick google it seems the story is that Suarez would be coming if Salah is going.
I know the opinion in my Scouse mates is that they should cash in and sell Salah in the summer anyway.
Is anybody bored enough to watch Engerlands tedious nil nil draw with San Marino tonight? Or is life simply too short for that nonsense?
If the Suarez rumours are true he’d take Firmino’s place surely? He’s been well off it this season.
Probably BS but there are rumours Suarez is coming back to Liverpool!
As Mayor?
He’s been promised some juicy property development contracts
Mason Mount is absolutely shredding san marino here.
Yep San Marino ....the acid test for a footballer
I can't get my head around how GOOD San Marino are. Pop 30,000. I live in Guildford and our population is 5x that. How they don't lose by a rugby score is a miracle.
Italian c team, probably still better than most Sunday league teams.
I liked the suggestion of giving stones a pair of gloves and playing an extra striker.
as for the mount comment some perspective....
Mount only played 45 minutes here and this was international football's version of an open goal but he proved again he is a prodigious worker, constant creator and a player who is developing at a rapid rate.
He created eight chances in open play in his 45-minute appearance. The last player to create more in an entire match in a European World Cup qualifier was Spain's Xavi, who managed nine against Bosnia & Herzegovina in 2008.
This is elite company.
Italian c team, probably still better than most Sunday league teams.
They definitely are better and their keeper had a great game to be fair - two or three really good saves. There isn't a hope that a Sunday League keeper would have been anywhere near those.
How very Spursy
What happened to West Brom yesterday? From the highlights I saw they were showing Chelsea up before the sending off.
Chelski were absolutely all over the place from the off. West Brom played them off the park. The sending off was because they’d been forced by West Brom into desperate last-ditch defending
Big Sam doing what Big Sam does. A proper ‘WTF??!!!’ Result
In the past you’d always say ‘it’s not pretty’ but the West Brom goals were all brilliant football. They tore Chelski apart.
the West Brom goals were all brilliant football.
That's what surprised me - they showed real quality but are stuck in real trouble
Well, predictably as ever, we took the opportunity of everybody else dropping points to do that the hard way. Didn’t turn up until the second half at home, as usual
Chelsea - West Brom, don't think I've laughed at a football match that much for a long time. Not only at Chelski's demise but rather Brom's excellentce.
The 4th Diagne goal, just like watching Brasil.
Alan Brazil ?
Liverpool looking well ropey in this game.
City seem in control but the defence is looking shaky and the ref is rubbish. Bellingham's goal was fine.
Bleuggg. That was not a good half for Liverpool
Awful refereeing in the city game, we are very lucky to have that Bellingham goal chalked off, thankfully the pen decision was reversed, but the ref has been overly fussy right from the start. I thought prem referees were bad but this is embarrassing for a quarter final in the CL.
The city defence have kept Harland quiet but left gaps elsewhere doing so, just his presence on the pitch is causing them to play his reputation more than the game in front of them.
I am starting to tire of Pep's lack of respect for my fantasy football team.
Cancell-No!
Brilliant performance by 10-man Leeds today, and at the fortress Etihad Stadium. That's 4 points we've taken off the soon to be champions. Hope we can have similar performances in our next games against Liverpool and Man Utd! MOT
tbh I wasn’t expecting anything out of that game before kick off, thought this batch of 3 games would be very difficult.
When Cooper got sent off (for a lesser foul than Baldock got nothing for last week) I thought it’d be a cricket score to Citeh.
Well done lads, not just for hanging on, but for stealing a win right at the death. MOT!
Mathematically West Brom could still catch us, but would need them to win twice as many games as they’ve managed all season, Leeds to lose all remaining games, and a 30 goal swing. Fulham & Sheffield can’t catch us now.
Some tasty games today. Who’d have thought at the start of the season that West Ham v Leicester would be a top four six-pointer?
You’d have to be mad to put money on who’s going to be in those three places behind city at the end of the season.
Us v Spurs should be a very different affair from last time too. I expect that Maureen will just have got the keys to the double-decker he’ll be driving this afternoon
I just hope we don’t have a repeat of Lamella’s utterly pathetic histrionics that got Tony sent off. In a hotly contested field it has to go down as the most shameless dive of the season. But knowing Jose, that’ll no doubt all be part of the game plan too
There are some strong contenders aren't there
https://twitter.com/essinem7/status/1370172623242551301
My ****ing broadband still isn't working in my new place so no football or IPL for me this weekend. 🤬
Poor Bruno. Imagine arriving at OT to find out you're only there to replace Ashley Young in the 10m competition
I’m nervous today, my best mate is a huge Leicester fan and we have a lot of injury’s! What a season it’s turning out to be though.
There are some strong contenders aren’t there?
There are indeed...
Lamela pips everyone though for going down then rolling around, clutching his face like he’d just been on the receiving end of an uppercut from Tyson Fury after the merest glancing brush from Tony
I think even Ashley Young would have blushed at that one
I think even Ashley Young would have blushed at that one
Oh @binners, you know better than that. Fake news! 😜
Blimey! Lingard is absolutely on fire at the moment! Banging them in for fun!
Yeah, I think being a bigger fish in a smaller pond suits him, virtually guaranteed to get minutes rather than competing to get a place in the starting line up. If you compare him to those he is competing against for a starting place in the united line up, he is probably a little less talented but more industrious, so that little step down to the teams just below the normal top 4 allows him to show his strengths.
As predicted...
And again...
Love it! 😂
Played ‘em off the park second half
Where's Aubameyang? Is he injured?
Where’s Aubameyang? Is he injured?
In a pretty all round demolition of Arsenal yesterday, Paul Merson described The Emirates as ‘a retirement home’ where players sign big contracts then kick back and settle for finishing mid-table (or on Ozil’s case not even giving a shit about that).
He reserved particular venom for Aubamayang who, as captain, had been benched for showing up late for training.
Can you imagine someone like Mark Noble, club captain at West Ham, or Jordan Henderson at Liverpool being late for training? Can you imagine their reactions to a player who was? Look where they are in the League compared to Arsenal. Says it all really
Perhaps Pierre Emerick nipped out for some Werthers Originals?
On the other hand, it might just be about that ridiculous haircut 😂
He's had interesting hair for a while so it's not lockdown hair
How come so many footballers have freshly trimmed/styled hair?
How come so many footballers have freshly trimmed/styled hair?
That's been quite widely reported on in the news when idiots have posted their illegal actions on social media. I don't know if some clubs have hairdressers in the team bubble alongside physios etc?
How come so many footballers have freshly trimmed/styled hair?
Mrs Binners suitably dry appraisal of the haircut situation was 'They're probably all married to hairdressers"
She's probably right 🙂
Big Sam is at it again. Watching the football that the Baggies are playing it’s difficult to see why they’re in the relegation zone
It’s also difficult to see that it’s Big Sam that’s doing it. Hoofing optimistic long balls over the top this most certainly isn’t
They’re taking Southampton apart here
So funny! Official paint partner goes rogue!
Gary Neville, love him or hate him, is absolutely on the money about today’s shenanigans
https://twitter.com/skysportspl/status/1383830563300077569?s=21
If they want to go, let them go. But they don't come back. Ever. Whatever legal changes to names, owners etc they might use.
I don’t think this will ever happen but it just shows how utterly and completely detached from the fans the owners of these clubs are.
They don’t give a flying **** about the clubs of the fans. They just want to make the most money possible. We’ve always known that the Glazers were parasitic scum from the moment those leaches arrived.
I think it won't happen on this occasion, as one of the strongest leagues has told them to piss off, as have the French. It's already even more pointless than the world club championship. Plus the threat of banning participating players from FIFA stuff will help.
The owners of the English clubs who've signed up can get ****ed though.
It would seem doomed to failure, given the almost universal hostile reaction so far. So why even propose it? Leverage to prompt UEFA to further expand the Champions League? Or just pure greed and a gigantic helping of naivety? It’s probably a good thing the stadiums are empty right now. Football without promotion and relegation is dead.
I would be quite happy for my lot (City) to get docked a load of points and let Leicester and WH duke it out for the title this season. Signing up would be a clear breach of PL rules, and this cabal of idiots need to be slapped down.
It's probably a bargaining chip to make the next Prem/FA/Chumps League TV rights move more in their favour
Doesn’t look like it now. Looks like they’re deadly serious.
An absolute ****ing joke!
Here’s the announcement from one of Europe’s elite who just flukes a 97th minute equaliser against Fulham today
https://twitter.com/arsenal/status/1383909222895603716?s=21
Its a betrayal of home based fans. If there is enough money in foreign TV fans, then goodbye and good luck to them. But at that point the clubs become an NFL type franchise who could be based anywhere in the world.
THe end of the game we've loved for 125+ years as we know it.
Football can shove itself up it's own arse now.
Pundits, ex players and all other purveyors of the #PremierLeague suddenly spouting about greed, elitism, and betrayal of the working man supporters can quite frankly GTF.
All six should be kicked out of the national leagues and Cup competitions, only way back via the conferences etc.
It's been grim watching football being changed by money over the last 20years, but this will be the final nail in the coffin for me.
Is this European Super League announcement (that has riled the Premier League so much) any different to when the Premier League set up its own top flight English football (Premier League) when there was already a top flight English football league?
Pundits, ex players and all other purveyors of the #PremierLeague suddenly spouting about greed, elitism, and betrayal of the working man supporters can quite frankly GTF.
While I kind of agree with you, the difference is any team from Non-league to the Championship can make it's way into the premier league. This proposal is a closed shop. I wonder if it's just a move by these clubs to get what they want from UEFA. They've been wanting more champions league places made available so it'll be the clubs from smaller leagues that end up getting pushed out into the Europa league.
Is this European Super League announcement (that has riled the Premier League so much) any different to when the Premier League set up its own top flight English football (Premier League) when there was already a top flight English football league?
The difference is that, while the PL was a financial landgrab to monopolise money about to flow into the game, effectively division 1 was replaced with the PL in a straight swap, and the fixture list didn't look a lot different.
This will fillet out the biggest six clubs for far more fixtures, and the domestic league will become a relative backwater with the second XI turned out for more PL matches in the way they've done for the league cup/FA cup.
The motivation is the same as always, money, but this time their fans will actually see their club heading off for mid-table fixtures at Inter or wherever and losing interest in their national league.
Turning that once-in-a-season massive game against a European giant like Real into just another fixture, home and away.
THis is in addition to the 38 PL games ? I assumed it was completely instead of the PL games ?
This is in addition to the 38 PL games ? I assumed it was completely instead of the PL games ?
The powers that be won't wear that. It's either/or. If they continue with this then they'll be booted out of their respective existing leagues
THis is in addition to the 38 PL games ?
Presumably this is what they want. They're calling in a 'new midweek league'. I can't see how the financials stack up if they lose PL revenue. Trouble is, it's holding a gun to the PL's head too, as Sky et al won't carry on paying the same money for a league without these six.
I'm a spurs fan, and I'm incredibly disappointed in this. Time to support my second team more now I guess. Come on Northampton Town!
There's not 1 positive comment on Tottenham's facebook announcement (ok I didn't read them all, but all 10 or so that I did...).
The Champions league should be for the teams that did the best the season before, not a everyone's a winner type thing. Plus we are Spurs so will lose every game probably.
They’re calling in a ‘new midweek league’.
Well considering managers are complaining there's too many fixtures, then you'd assume they'll have to drop certain tournaments from their proper teams, so FA cup, league cup etc would be dumped from the big 6's desires, but that still doesn't help as they're often on Saturdays anyway.
So they'll be playing the normal number of games, against the normal teams and then adding 22 more (assuming 11 games home and away) and the fans are supposed to pay money to fly to these and buy tickets ? I'm not seeing this as being reasonable at all.
It isn’t meant to be reasonable. It’s all about money. The Spanish pair in particular are completely broke & they desperately need to find a source of cash. I really don’t understand why the well funded English clubs feel the need to do this because cash flow isn’t really a problem for them. Greed pure & simple.
and the fans are supposed to pay money to fly to these and buy tickets ?
The fans are supposed to pay their Sky subs and sit at home.
Well considering managers are complaining there’s too many fixtures, then you’d assume they’ll have to drop certain tournaments
League Cup is already a bit of a joke tournament, this proposal basically takes control of the Champions League, kills that competition, and allows the founding clubs to keep and guarantee that revenue, while graciously allowing the occasional extra team to come to the party.
I suppose it will be funny watching Arsenal prop up the table every year, but the franchise model of competition is inherently sterile.
The biggest shock to me about the announcement is how shocked everyone is, this has been bubbling for years. The "big 6" want guaranteed income, they don't want the jeopardy that qualifying or not for a competition gives.
It'll be fascinating how the domestic leagues deal with this. Will they kick out their biggests names? That seems unlikely, irrelevant of the bluster they are giving at the moment. It's also interesting to see no German or French teams there.
Well considering managers are complaining there’s too many fixtures, then you’d assume they’ll have to drop certain tournaments from their proper teams
By the looks of it, the managers found out about this at the same time as the rest of us. The club owners have cooked this up between themselves to the complete exclusion of everybody else. The managers, the players and the fans obviously didn't figure in their proceedings at all. Says it all really.
At Man Yoo, we've always known own owners were money-grubbing parasites who didn't give a toss about the club or the fans, I just hope that the fans of the other clubs here can now see their owners for what they are, and how little they care about them.
I know that Citeh and Liverpool fans generally have a more benevolent view of their owners. Now they can see them for what they truly are.
I know that Citeh and Liverpool fans generally have a more benevolent view of their owners.
Not really. It has been nice to have a bit of success in the domestic competitions, but I'd rather go back to the good old days of flirting with relegation every season than travel further down this path. It all feels sterile these days. Without the lows, the highs mean nothing. And while the Spanish teams desperately need the revenue, apparently, that's certainly not the case for City's owners.
Good to see the 'they need us more than we need them' arguments being advanced again, suggesting the PL will cave and let them stay. That worked out well for us as a nation recently.
I think they're looking at the start of the sort of conferences they have for NFL and AFL. I'd imagine they've cast enviable glances at a multi billion industry where everyone gets a shit tonne of money and no threat of relegation if you play badly. Money ruins sports again.
It’s also interesting to see no German or French teams there.
Yet. There are still 3 clubs to be announced. According to reports the only reason PSG haven't signed up yet is there could be rules in place that mean "they can't use the full extent of their financial power", but I'm sure they are enjoying taking the pats on the back from Macron and UEFA.
The German teams are going to have the issue that they have the 50+1 rule so the supporters have the majority share holding in clubs.
So they’ll be playing the normal number of games, against the normal teams and then adding 22 more (assuming 11 games home and away) and the fans are supposed to pay money to fly to these and buy tickets ? I’m not seeing this as being reasonable at all.
I'm dead against too.
There's plenty on websites about the structure, no need to 'assume' anything.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56795811
It's proposed to be 20 teams (these 12, another 3 in negotiation, and then 5 invites per season based on performance) in 2 leagues, with the top 4 going on to a knockout.
IDK how many more or less games that will make it compared to a full Champions League campaign with league stages, multiple H&A legs, etc. Certainly looks like more though.
If FIFA/UEFA don't support / sanction, it'll really nail down the club vs country as FIFA could refuse to register any players that play in it and make them illegible for domestic leagues and national tournaments.
I agree with ElShalimo - I honestly don't see this Super League tournament ever happening - it's all a bluff. This is just the larger clubs in Europe using it as a bargaining chip, threatening to leave competitions unless they get a greater share of the wealth. I'm reckoning 90% of new foreign PL fans support one of these 6 clubs, and the clubs know how much poorer the league would be without them. Same for CL.
Tottenham won't want to leave the PL, as we know it'll destroy the fan base. We might consider leaving the CL as it has less history and the format has changed throughout the years.
It's totally unfair on the smaller clubs, but I can't see the big six leaving the Premier League - we just want more money.
Without sounding arrogant, Uefa would prefer Spurs/Arsenal etc in the CL rather than a less well known European side (simply as we have a higher profile of club/players, better stadium etc) even if we are less deserving and don't actually qualify via our league - it's all about getting the likes of Son (arguably most famous sports person in Asia) & Kane etc on the big stage as they bring in more viewers / cash to the game.
I imagine we'll all settle for guaranteed inclusion in the CL and a greater share of the income from all competitions.
Again, not fair on the likes of West Ham, Everton, Leicester, Wolves etc and totally pulling up the ladder after we've climbed up, to prevent the rest from catching us.
*checks tables*
Nope, the Big 6 leaving still doesn't lift Ipswich Town back into the Championship...🙄
Well I'll just love it, just love it, if Reading refuse to join this super league.
Less seriously, if this happens it will go the same way as golf. Only on pay per view with dwindling numbers watching.
Tottenham won’t want to leave the PL, as we know it’ll destroy the fan base. We might consider leaving the CL
<confused face>
Seems like a fairly empty threat this season.