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700 times more rainfall than they usually get, just heard that on the radio. Absolutely wild what's going on over there at the moment.
I've not really seen a figure like that anywhere - 700 times more than what? 700 times more than the dry season? 700 times more than any other other monsoon season? Sure it was '700 times' and not '700%'?
Dunno, was just someone on james O'brien there, reporting from ****stan maybe I picked it up wrong and it was 700%, dunno.
But one third of ****stan is covered in water and 33 million folks have lost homes, are other mind boggling stats.
Similarly was reading a BBC article about how dry France is - in July, according to the article, France had 9.8mm of rain in the whole month. I'm assuming that is the average, but it is seriously small amounts.
It has been said countless times, but humans are causing the vast majority of all this and we don't seem willing to make the changes (I'm blaming consumerism and the desire to get rich).
I heard that on JoB too, it was 700%, still a staggering amount which ever way you interpret it.
The footage I’ve seen on the news was incredibly scary.
Amazing to think that despite all of this going on, there are still climate change deniers who’d say it’s ‘just weather’!!!
it was the 1/3 of the country underwater stat that shocked me. Given that ****stan is 3x as large as the UK, the whole of England, Scotland Wales and N Ireland is submerged
Hmm, seems notjustacyclingaddict's user name is sadly true. He's also a heartless ****.
Imo No 💩s given seeing as they are seeking so much millions in aid.
Someone’s escaped from the daily mail comments section. 😳
That is your opinion even if you do not know me 😊
Papers are for wiping after use of toilet, not to be brainwashed by powerful corporations and individuals.
Wasting your money on another - good for you...
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Imo No 💩s given seeing as they are seeking so much millions in aid.
Tell you what ****stan, seek monies to build “your” infrastructure from your locally based scammers.
Nough said.
💩Happens and I have infinitely more sympathy for what has happened recently in Liverpool and my own area.
Time governments sorted out their own nations to resolve issues.
richer governments giving money after the fact is probably not the best or most efficient way of going about things. But 1000+ dead, 1/3 of the country underwater, crops ruined.
I'd put that as a bit more serious than Liverpools current woes, even though they are half way around the world, and living under a different flag and God; they are still human beings after all.
not to be brainwashed by powerful corporations and individuals.
MAGA!
it was the 1/3 of the country underwater stat that shocked me
I dont think thats what you'd actually see if you looked at a satellite picture of ****stan today - in media reports the word 'underwater' tends to be used as shorthand for 'effected by flooding' - so..... a third of the country is effected by flooding - homes, infrastructure crops and so on have been damaged by floods, not 'a third of the country is submerged'.
notjustacyclingaddict’s user name is sadly true
giving a way a little about a previous username too maybe - and I think..... has just departed?
I see we have a new bot on the forum, where is the ignore button?
maccruiskeen
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it was the 1/3 of the country underwater stat that shocked meI dont think thats what you’d actually see if you looked at a satellite picture of ****stan today – in media reports the word ‘underwater’ tends to be used as shorthand for ‘effected by flooding’ – so….. a third of the country is effected by flooding – homes, infrastructure crops and so on have been damaged by floods, not ‘a third of the country is submerged’.
https://www.axios.com/2022/08/29/****stan-floods-satellite-images-destruction
Would be interesting to see an overview of the whole country, regardless, it's very severe.
giving a way a little about a previous username too maybe
I'm lost, who?
The Guardian has an "in pictures" feature
https://www.theguardian.com/world/gallery/2022/aug/30/****stan-floods-cause-devastation-in-pictures
Crazy stuff 33 million homeless is just one of those can't get your head around numbers
In the meantime, our fearless leaders will wring their hands publicly whilst making plans to ship further refugees to Rwanda.
Nahhh still here ta. 😊 plus believe what you want in your tin foil hats.
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So close, he almost made it to the end of the school holiday's
Time governments sorted out their own nations to resolve issues.
I don't wish to be rude as perhaps English isn't your first language but what does that mean ?
I understand the meanings of those individual words but not necessarily in that order.
Anthropogenic climate change is for very obvious reasons a global phenomenon, its effect are global and the solutions are global.
You cannot look at the problems caused by climate change on a purely national level, since you use the term "own nations".
Indeed it is greed, selfishness, and an insular attitude, which for so long has hamstrung an effective fight against climate change.
The United Nations is currently attempting to coordinate a global response to tackle the consequences of of the catastrophic flooding. If you cannot welcome this from a humanitarian perspective because you lack empathy then perhaps you could welcome it from the perspective of selfishness and personal greed.
****stan is a significant source of cheap manufactured goods for the UK. A third of the country affected by devastating flooding will obviously affect ****stan's manufacturing capabilities. Whether you personally buy ****stani products or not supply issues are likely to affect the retail prices that you pay for goods.
Plus further fuel inflation, with all the consequences for our "own nation".
700 times more rainfall than they usually get
Looks more like 3 times the usual.
https://twitter.com/sherryrehman/status/1563451258236678146/photo/2
The rainfall and consequential flooding doesn't appear to be uniform throughout ****stan. I have heard the figure of 8 times the average rainfall for one region.
According to the Washington Post:
"the city of Karachi has seen 48 inches of rainfall in the past two months. The financial hub, which has a desert climate, usually sees less than 10 inches of rainfall per year."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/08/30/****stan-flooding-underwater-monsoon/
The rainfall and consequential flooding doesn’t appear to be uniform throughout ****stan. I have heard the figure of 8 times the average rainfall for one region.
That's a silly assumption/expectation. In simple terms it's a huge country with varying terrain and water flows downhill.
Yeah apparently two thirds of ****stan is not under water, so some areas have presumably had considerably less water than others.
The graph above appears to be for the total rainfall in the whole of ****stan which isn't particularly useful in gauging how badly some regions have been affected.
irc
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700 times more rainfall than they usually getLooks more like 3 times the usual.
ElShalimo
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The rainfall and consequential flooding doesn’t appear to be uniform throughout ****stan. I have heard the figure of 8 times the average rainfall for one region.That’s a silly assumption/expectation. In simple terms it’s a huge country with varying terrain and water flows downhill.
fair enough, the regional point is probably what she was meaning, it's a pretty staggering human disaster regardless.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/28/****stan-monsoon-flooding-death-toll-tops-1000
This year, precipitation in some regions was 600 percent higher than average.
"The Earth is speaking: she tells us we have no more time"
Txai Suruí - November 2021
Fact check. One third of the country flooded? Actually 8%.
Obviously still tragic but hyperbole and exaggeration doesnt help.
Why do you feel the need to repeatedly post links to articles written by climate change deniers and organisations irc?
The Global Warming Policy Foundation denies the existence of anthropogenic climate change, as does Paul Homewood who works for them and whose article you have linked.
This is what Paul Homewood had to say earlier this year:
“The UK's weather is becoming, if anything, less extreme. We are still waiting for evidence of a 'climate crisis' that politicians and environmentalists claim is upon us. But observational data shows that in the UK there is no evidence for any worsening weather trends."
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/uk-news/climate-change-fears-unfounded-uk-26991122
This is clearly nonsense. If Paul Homewood cannot be trusted to tell the truth about UK weather patterns why should he be trusted to tell the truth about ****stani weather patterns?
If you want to make a point challenging perceptions how about providing links to articles written by people who accept science?