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If the reason most threads get deleted and users banned is that complaints get made, then it stands to reason that users who piss others off generally will get complaints against them more when naughty than those who don't. Fred has his share of dislikers and so I guess almost all of his trips out-of-bounds get drawn to mods' attention, hence he's banned more readily.

GW has a fairly, err, direct/abrasive style too and so maybe that counts against him in terms of getting reported. His post on the dumped thread was easy to complain about I reckon, though not actually full of really offensive words IIRC ([i]fairly[/i] funny though - & likely untrue)

I struggle to understand why LOADS of posts get reported. I never have and probably never will report one - guess I don't take the place seriously enough


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:14 pm
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@ JY, No, I know you have. It's ok, I've reported you loads too.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:14 pm
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buzz-lightyear said something stupid.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:15 pm
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That worked well 😉


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:15 pm
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buzz-lightyear said something stupid.

Nothing new there then 😀


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:16 pm
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😛


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:18 pm
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Does all this reporting really go on? Are people really so sensitive? Isn't it a bit like running to 'teacher'?

I can only ever recall reporting one post, or rather a series of them from the same poster, as they were so crass and insensitive to the OP that it defied belief.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:21 pm
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Does all this reporting really go on? Are people really so sensitive? Isn't it a bit like running to 'teacher'?

Apparently yes, because...

I can only ever recall reporting one post, or rather a series of them from the same poster, as they were so crass and insensitive to the OP that it defied belief.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:22 pm
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I presume there is little reporting or we'd see more deleted posts (if you know what I mean) and there would be more bans.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:23 pm
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*thinks of a reason to report Woody's post*


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:24 pm
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What I find hard to take it the way that some nasty prejudiced posts are allowed to stand despite reporting from posters with plenty of previous and other posters get banned with no warning for something much less offensive

i honestly think that this roughly translates as 'i want people banned for not having my world view' rather than people getting banned for breaking the rules.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:24 pm
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DS

One in 10 years? 😆


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:25 pm
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trailmonkey - there may be an element of this. However I do try to reserve it for the more blatantly racist sexist and homophobic stuff and use a fairly high threshold. Racist sexist and homophobic posts are against the rules. I try to keep some sense of perspective and only report the blatent stuff - not just the unthnking


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:29 pm
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mark's posts on these threads almost always state that mods are inundated with complaints


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:35 pm
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DS

One in 10 years?


For or against?
Personally I see all this complaining as an insecurity, OK it's a bit one sided as I don't think there's much chance of appealing against a ban, but to complain in the first place is a bit...


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:40 pm
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I reckon everyone on this thread will get banned, then it will collapse in on itself, resulting in a forum black hole, where other, even new posters will get sucked in and destroyed. This is why they close the threads before it hits the event horizon.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:44 pm
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The Thread Event Horizon??

I always wondered what "teh" referred to.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:46 pm
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I can see it... it's looming!


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:47 pm
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I've only ever complained about one post, where the hypocritical bullying had reached critical level and I'm glad I did.
I've never posted a tag as I consider them cowardly.

The worst threads on here, IMO, have been mysogynistic insults aimed at those with no opportunity to answer back.
They were pulled, but not until the OP had received a dose of his own, and he seems to have calmed down a bit recently.


 
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Posted : 21/07/2011 10:48 pm
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You've lost me DS 😕


 
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Racist sexist and homophobic posts are against the rules. I try to keep some sense of perspective and only report the blatent stuff

Yes let's keep some sense of perspective - racist, sexist, and homophobic posts, are extremely rare on here.

And if I feel bothered enough to do anything about them, then I challenge them - I don't report them.

That's what I do in 'real life' ...... where banning isn't an option. Mark keeps banging on how this is just like real life, well in real life I don't rely on bans when having to deal with racism, sexism, and homophobia.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:49 pm
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ernie - I assume the mods have some responsibility for the content of the site (ensuring it meets certain standards) and that without posts being reported they'd have difficulty policing it. That being the case, reporting offensive posts should be seen as helping them out?

Just like "real life" repeat offenders might expect some sort of punishment/censorship?


 
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You've lost me DS

I've just re-read, my mistake. 😳


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:57 pm
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the mods have some responsibility for the content of the site

My comments were aimed at TJ not the mods. I was suggesting that he deals with any cases of racism, sexism, and homophobia, by challenging them - not by reporting them. I have never reported any post. I can cope with racism, sexism, and homophobia in the real world - why would it be different on here ? Although as I say such incidences are extremely rare here.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 10:59 pm
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Its a not unreasonable point and I do on occasion. sometimes tho I feel the right thing to do is report it as challenging them makes no difference or ends up with a row and that without reports the mods will not know of the behaviour.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 11:06 pm
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As my good lady would say, doesn't everyone just need to 'unclench' a bit...and take the forum for what it is. I really fail to see how anyone gets so upset...


 
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challenging them makes no difference

I can't ever recall anyone making an openly racist or homophobic comment not being successfully challenged, or the poster in anyway being in a position to derive satisfaction from the outcome.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 11:18 pm
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Look at my horse, my horse is amazing.


 
Posted : 21/07/2011 11:19 pm
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fatmax, there has been some genuine nastiness, personal abuse and bullying on here.

No one likes a turd in their favourite swimming pool.

Do we pick it out ourselves or get the cleaners in? 😀


 
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urghh. thanks for that swimming pool metaphor. Think I'm gonna be sick.

at the idea of being in a swimming pool with you lot (not the turd) 😉


 
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🙂


 
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I've really never felt the need to report anyone's post on here, to me it seems like the policy of a schoolyard - Sir, sir! somebody said something horrid and may of made Jimmy cry

I simply ignore anything I don't like and move on. It's not like anyone is forced to read any particular post.
I don't take offence very easily and I certainly don't take offence by proxy either, there seems to be one or two posters who go around looking for something to be offended by and then making a big noise about it.
Get on with your own life would be my advice, if you were asking 🙂

As for this being real life? do me a favour.............


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 6:21 am
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But this is real life for a lot of people on here. I've reported you for being offensive.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 6:57 am
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Point(s) being laboured? Conclusion - everyone relax.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:04 am
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But this is real life for a lot of people on here

Probably the most depressing post I've ever read.

Are there [i]really[/i] people who actually take this tiny little forum in one tiny corner of the interwebs seriously? 😯

"I pity the Fool(s)"

Point(s) being laboured?

Would you expected anything less on here?


 
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Are there really people who actually take this tiny little forum in one tiny corner of the interwebs seriously?

Well Mark claims that "this is real life" so I guess yes. Do you not agree then ?

For me it's nothing like real life, for a start, I don't dislike anyone at all on here. And yet I can't help feeling that if I met some of the punters on here in real life, I'd probably think that we were right ****ers. After all the real world's full of people that I don't like.


 
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been banned twice, once because smurfmatthew commented on the size of my friends breasts and the second time was for posting a picture of a woman breastfeeding a cat.

the pole dancing video annoyed me as she was wearing more than most people would wear to the beach, it was a video for an arts competition (no sexual moves at all, just technical skill as she won miss pole dance UK and now teaches all over the world) and up until SM's post everyone was playing well and commenting on ability not looks.

the breastfeeding cat was an image from one of those 30p wimmins mags like 'look!' 'now!' or 'shock!', no nipple showing (it was well and truly in the cats mouth)... fair enough i suppose, somebody was obviously upset by it!

not sure why i'm typing this other than its fun to mention breasts on a friday 🙂


 
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not sure why i'm typing this other than its fun to mention breasts on a friday

I will report this post while secretly thanking you for it... 😉


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:47 am
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not sure why i'm typing this other than its fun to mention breasts on a friday

EVERY day!*

*boobies


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:47 am
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I guess that's the problem with having the users "mod" the content. Some folk have the ability to be outraged at trivia.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:48 am
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not sure why i'm typing this other than its fun to mention breasts on a friday

Oh how I miss the Friday A&A - wonder who reported that ?? 8)


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 7:50 am
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If only you lot knew....

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for posting a picture of a woman breastfeeding a cat.

😆

Reckon you can break post reporting down in to 3 camps

1. Guardians - those who see it as a responsibility to report gender sterotyping, bad language, racial abuse etc. Fair enough I suppose as long as the 'report post' button gets hit after a little bit of thought as to the context of the comment.

2. Delicates - those 'gentle' souls who are quite willing to start fights but back out of open confrontation and would rather revert to moderation to get their way. I suspect that these people have an internet persona that is quite different to how they behave in real life.

3. Axe grinders - people without a pair of fully developed testicles who decide they don't like someone and make a point of causing trouble for them.

NB. And before anyone specific gets upset, calm down - this is a general observation. You know who you are.


 
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I don't want to get into a fight about it Yossarian but I feel that your post is stereotyping too much so I've reported it.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:12 am
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you guardian, you 😉


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:13 am
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He's just called all the female members Axe Grinders. Definitely reporting that.


 
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Nah... I didn't think about it so your stereotype is incorrect. Sorry.

LOL at Darcy... at least he didn't say battle axe grinders.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:16 am
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I reported a post 2 days ago and it didn't fall into any of your handy little pigeon holes.


 
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I just read 8 highly interesting pages and I'm still no wiser is it a case of you can have an opinion only don't even consider having it on this forum

or you just not allowed to have an opinion and if you don't like it f... Off


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:19 am
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{compositepro reported for sitting on the fence}


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:20 am
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I reported a post 2 days ago and it didn't fall into any of your handy little pigeon holes.

Was it a JLS one? 🙂


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:24 am
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{Reported for mentioning JLS}


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:25 am
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Ban me NOW! 🙂


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:26 am
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{compositepro reported for sitting on the fence}

{post reported for overzealous reporting}


 
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Ban me NOW!

{reported for paging}


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:27 am
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It's not like anyone is forced to read any particular post.

how exactly am I meant to know the content before reading it? A bit like me screaming f off at you and arguing you dont need to listen
As for this being real life? do me a favour...

well you are at odds with the owners and the people who run this ...does the forum just self generate without someone having to do something in their real life ? when it was hacked was it not real for STW? Users seemed a tad annoyed as well. People have been sued for what they have written on the Internet. In what sense is it not real? You may be confusing taking it seriously and real here.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:28 am
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{reports self for paging self and disappears into a worm hole}


 
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[Reported for taking it seriously]


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:29 am
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{Reported for getting swirly and square brackets mixed up}


 
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😆

Edit: Threeundred!!!


 
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well you are at odds with the owners and the people who run this ..

bizarrely 🙄 - I was talking about my life not theirs so I'm quite comfortable being at odds with them - if it's OK with you that is?


 
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I just read 8 highly interesting pages and I'm still no wiser is it a case of you can have an opinion only don't even consider having it on this forum

or you just not allowed to have an opinion and if you don't like it f... Off

You can have an opinion so long as it does not fall foul of the rules in the way you express it. You need to remember its not a private conversation.


 
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{wormhole reported for not doing job properly}

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Posted : 22/07/2011 8:34 am
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do me a favour...

Go on then, I'm in a good mood - what do you need?


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:34 am
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I've never reported anyone (bar spammers), I'm confident there will always be folk more upset about stuff than me.

reporting folk for being offensive I get, what I struggle with is getting reported when I am clearly having a laugh.

I mean FFS who reported my "big hitters" thread? You really need to get out more and get a life.


 
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Who wants a favour? Have I killfiled them? Will you do me a favour DD?


 
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[img] http://www.flickr.com/photos/rrhyne56/3634845763/ [/img]

A simple complaint form would suffice maybe points for insults rather than an immediate ban

Why picture no work.?.?


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:40 am
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not sure why the eye roll there tbh ...could we not at least work up to being dismissive of each other ?


 
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I mean FFS who reported my "big hitters" thread? You really need to get out more and get a life.

I am pretty sure you just won over your doubters with that.


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:43 am
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JY you miss my point - of course a lot of my output here is a complete waste of time aimed at amusing myself and others...but if it's not really offensive to a proper grown up then why report it?

There's more value in it to me than "pics of red frame with green wheels please" threads.


 
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cynic-al

reporting folk for being offensive I get, what I struggle with is getting reported when I am clearly having a laugh.

This is the bit you seem to find hard to understand - what you consider having a laugh can be highly offensive to others. Its not your intent that counts - its the effect upon others,

The joke I told that I got banned for is funny -and I was clearly having a laugh. However the ban was appropriate 'cos it was offensive


 
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It was me Al. I just report all your posts. I do it on Mleh as well.

Really though the mods probably just shut it down to stop everyone arguing.


 
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Red frame, green wheels?
YUK


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:48 am
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Fair point TJ but I still don't see what was offensive about my big hitters threads or humerous pokes at Fred (and you) for instance...I trust Fred to be big enough (and you) not to be reporting them


 
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Didn't see them so cannot comment. Could well be just to stop rows brewing


 
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It's that context/tone thing again Al. It's just some words on a screen and they can be easily misconstrued. Remember when the winky icon was banned on mleh?


 
Posted : 22/07/2011 8:51 am
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Fair point TJ but I still don't see what was offensive about my big hitters threads or pokes at Fred for instance.

Threads aren't just closed or deleted for being offensive, they're closed if they going to insight arguments or deemed as trolling. They're not always reported either some we do spot the thread titles or OP can give us clues to what it's going to be like.

Right stepping into the background again on this thread.


 
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cynic-al, it seems to me that your self-perception and how others perceive you are miles apart. You're obviously an intelligent guy - I'm sure you're perfectly nice in real life but it might be best if, before you post, you think for a second, “how is this going to be perceived by others?” If you do, and you then [i]don't[/i] give a shit (which it seems you don't a lot of the time), then you can't whinge when you get heavily moderated. Tbh, you do ask for it a lot of the time.


 
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Right stepping into the background again on this thread.

{reported}

Obviously.


 
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