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Just watching the turnout reports coming through and thinking, in a nutshell, jesus ****ing christ. It'd be nice if we could just pause it all here for a month or so and say "Yes and No voters, look what you did together".
OH MY ARSE IS INCREDIBLY ITCHY EVERYONE LOOK AWAY NOW
Just watching the turnout reports coming through and thinking, in a nutshell, jesus **** christ. It'd be nice if we could just pause it all here for a month or so and say "Yes and No voters, look what you did together".
Quite, it's something when you think 78% (my local) turnout is poor
adding another level of politics and electioneering to the mix doesn't make sense to me
except we're not. We currently have Scottish, Westminster and Brussels representation. With independance we lose Westminster (which, in case you missed it, is the point of the referendum) so one less level of politics. Having got the basics wrong, I didn't bother with the rest of your post
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Ben Coopers on TV!! 🙂
O voters of Scotland
When will we see your like again
That debated and cried for
Your wee bit hill and glen
And stood against them
Bland David's army
And sent him homeward
Tae think again
Regardless of the result in a few hours,a message has been sent.
Well done to all you folk that stood up to be counted.
Well done for caring about more than the day to day .
Most of all,well done for putting some great passion in to politics.
Thank you
[i]Yes ,I have had a few malts[/i] 🙂
Having got the basics wrong, I didn't bother with the rest of your post
Which was referring back to the point the John Redwood made
Conservative MP John Redwood tells the BBC's Andrew Neil at Westminster that, if there is a "No" victory, "every power that goes to Scotland must be matched by the same power coming to England".
and the desire for regional assembles that some think will come from a Yes vote or a No vote and any more transfer of power to one region over the next. It was bout the potential for a more federal UK. If you read up the page a bit the context is all there, I could have quoted it all but it seemed a bit pointless for people who were reading the whole thread not just points in it.
hegdehog - Member
Ben Coopers on TV!!
I did wonder if it was the same fella
Having got the basics wrong, I didn't bother with the rest of your post
If you had read the rest of his post you might have perhaps realised that he was talking about "separate regions" not Scotland.
Did he mention us?
He could have at least had a STW T-shirt on, FFS!!...
Is he threatening anyone with part of a Brompton? 🙂
[i]Is he in the Beeb crowd?[/i]
Clackmannanshire Y46% N54%
Pretty resounding No in Orkney
Aye ,those Vikings ,ay 🙂
Not a big surprise there, but such a large vote against would raise interesting questions if the result is Yes.
ahh best to discuss in here.
Does it go on total number of Yes to No or on number of constituent wins?
All votes count
Total number of Yes to No.
ah I am guessing the total number of individual votes: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/scotland-decides/results
Which would be expected for this type of vote I guess. (am tired)
edit: as I thought. ta
Did he mention us?
Six f***ing hours in the BBC studios, and I got about 30 seconds on air! I've now got a very numb arse, can't sleep, so going to fill the dishwasher and drink lots of homebrew.
I'll leave you with this thought: TV presenters and politicians look very different in 3D.
I was kind of hoping for some compares between the early results and the polling for that area, that'd have been cool.
Right, I'm off to bed, looking forward to waking up in the early hours of a better [s]talk like a pirate day [/s]nation
2:30am and it's "oh shit!" time... 🙁
Just remembered I have a haggis in the freezer and a bottle of Innis & Gun in the cupboard. I am thinking it would either be a good farewell meal or a glad you are staying meal this weekend. Either way I win 😀
Hang on, "Either way I win" is a bit Alex Salmond 😯
Not looking good at all for Yes.
Id'd go with it's looking better for No than it is for Yes, as it's all about the overall numbers a couple of big ones each way could swing it. Orkney was always listed as No Way. Still easier to watch the results roll in during the day here.
Glasgow turnout of 75% is a bit poor by this vote standards. Possibly good for the no camp given the number of voters?
Seems to be the big question, some saying a high turnout favours the No as more people are rallied to oppose than to change. Also the closeness of the polls may have persuaded more to turn out to make sure again is that more likely of the Yes or No's. Potentially the undecided who are still undecided would prefer No to Yes so will vote No due to the tightness of the polls - most were saying 6-9% undecided? Thats a lot when it was within 6% before.Possibly good for the no camp given the number of voters?
The fat lady has just sung. (Western Isles vote No)
Western Isles return a Y47% N53%, that was one the Yes side would have been expecting the opposite.
I think the rough number is about 2,100,000 to win but make that 2.2m to be safe.
So far
NO 49,535 57.85
YES 36,097 42.15
Long way to go
Inverclyde Y49.9% N50.1%, close.
I am up and listening to this; 2 things I never envisaged last night.
I'm still saying N - 70% 🙂
Dundee Y57% N43%
Renfrewshire Y47% N53&
Mixed results, Yes was hoping for majority in Renfrewshire.
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back in the game, come on west dunbartonshire and dundee! 🙂
Couple of bad results there, that Stirling one is gonna hurt Yes.
speedy editing going on there.....
Couple of bigger ones but any one of the cities could turn things around. No just need another 1.8 million votes....
45k in it. 20 to declare.
Ach aye the NO
Can't believe Angus was such a large No, stunned by that result.
nearly 90k in it now
Perhaps it backs up what people have been saying that people would rather say Yes to avoid confrontation/lectures/patronising but know they will vote no.
bout 140k in it, 15 to go.
If this continues, I'll support it, but scotland should shut the **** up about being a nation.
Mikewsmith I.e intimidation.
aye from westminster, the banks, big business.hora - Member
Mikewsmith I.e intimidation.
long way to go yet.
I'm oot! Looks like a no to me and another referendum in 10 years after the 3 toff parties from Westminster wriggle out of their promises from the last few weeks. Still hopeful of waking up to a miracle though.
south and north lanarkshire due soon. will be key to make up ground for the glasgow v edinburgh battle..
or the overly vocal Yes campaign? Makes a lot of noise while everyone else gets on with things. 150k behind now....
Nae Scotsman v Scotsman. I hope whoever wins its a convincing win. 51/49 no thanks.
north yes, south no. +5k to no.
Whwre are you getting your live feed?
hitting about 200k now to make up..
seosamh77 - Member
hora - Member
Mikewsmith I.e intimidation.
aye from westminster, the banks, big business.
You are Tommy Sheridan and I claim my 5 MCeuropounds
Former Socialist MSP Tommy Sheridan, who has been campaigning for a "Yes" vote, told BBC Scotland: "It is not looking good to be honest. I am feeling almost broken-hearted.
"I feel that the British establishment has mobilised the big guns, they have mobilised the bankers, they have mobilised the billionaires, they have mobilised the supermarkets, they have all been corralled into Number 10 and told to get out there and frighten people and I think that people have been frightened."
bbc1
try bbc parliament, it's on that too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/scotland-decides/live
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/events/scotland-decides/results
Though obviously it's all lies and propoganda
mike, stop trying to claim intimadation from friggin australia, it didn't happen.mikewsmith - Member
Glasgow
Not enough.
are you trying to intimidate me there 😉
It's been widely reported from various news outlets but as you say didn't happen. There must be another reason why people were saying Yes when meaning No.
😯
Largest city in Scotland and third largest city in UK votes Yes, unfortunately not enough.
glasgow 53/47%
It's f'ed tbh.
Congratulations no. You've become northern britain. Your Scotland died tonight and you rejected the chance to build something better..
Enjoy getting shafted from westminster.
I'm oot.
Very surprised that 1 in 4 Glaswegians didn't vote after seeing the scenes on the streets these last few weeks, especially with the turnout in other areas.
What happened?
[Having said that, 75% would be high at any other time].
Shafted? 170, 000 Glaswegians said no. Are they idiots then or putting aside emotional unstable thoughts and looking at the facts/pros and cons?
Congratulations no. You've become northern britain. Your Scotland died tonight and you rejected the chance to build something better..
Disagree. Independence wasn't the only answer to the question 🙂
some places in glasgow can get 30% turnourt, so in relation to that it's fair enough, the rise in turnout is apparent on a par with everywhere else.whimbrel - Member
Very surprised that 1 in 4 Glaswegians didn't vote after seeing the scenes on the streets these last few weeks, especially with the turnout in other areas.
What happened?
They are called the silent majority for a reason, they are happy to be ruled. Nothing will change.whimbrel - Member
Congratulations no. You've become northern britain. Your Scotland died tonight and you rejected the chance to build something better..
Independence wasn't the only answer to the question
looks like the yougov poll was spot on. 54-46
Decorum.
We can but hope Westminster suffers a smugness overload. The buggers are going to be even more insufferable for the next few days.
Oh the champers will be gushing like a highland torrent today, "Great work chaps! The McOiks swallowed it again! And we made a mint from that little market wobble we set up...As soon as the fuss has died down we'll really show them who's in charge... HOORAY!"
My wife was in Glasgow this week and said the intimidation and abuse from Yes campaigers, directed at those who said they were voting No, or didn't want to say, was scary. And she's from Paisley...
I'm still watching. Looks like I've earned my hangover. 🙂
Can't argue with the results, massive turnout.
It's a victory for democracy even if I don't like the result.
Gordon Brown has swung it IMO.
Only 1/2 million more needed for a No. Back to Salmon claiming it on away goals and devo max, trouble is he needs the rest of the Uk to vote for it.
TroutWrestler - Member
My wife was in Glasgow this week and said the intimidation and abuse from Yes campaigers, directed at those who said they were voting No, or didn't want to say, was scary. And she's from Paisley...
As has been pointed out multiple times she is wrong 🙂
seosamh77 - Member
They are called the silent majority for a reason, they are happy to be ruled. Nothing will change.
I hope and think you are wrong. 'Westminster' can't ignore >1m Yessers, and hopefully all UK will benefit.
Come of fife and edinburgh results ffs
don't think we will need them tbh
watch them, this is heading for 42/58 or worse imo.whimbrel - Member
seosamh77 - Member
They are called the silent majority for a reason, they are happy to be ruled. Nothing will change.
I hope and think your are wrong. 'Westminster' can't ignore >1m Yessers, and hopefully all UK will benefit.POSTED 1 MINUT