[Closed] Ooh, exciting times!

Drugs?

Shhh!

Are Amway still going? 😉

Good luck. New stuff is always great

Minimal investment with minimal risk and big potential.

Cheap strong and light - pick 2. 🙂

Pyramids?

It's snake oil

Pyramids?

Sliced Bread ??

You may have missed the boat..

Minimal investment with minimal risk and big potential. You takes yer chances!

@ avdave2. 😀

900mm bars?

30" wheels?

Whatever it is good luck!

As I was the first well wisher, 1st dibs on partnership when successful.

Electronic Cigarettes?

Good luck, new ventures are always exciting.

A social network site where you can keep up with "friends" ??

Do you need any pie charts?

turd polish for on-ones?

A red light and a spot down the docks doing favours for sailors?

so you have had a gentlemans handshake-- an import and retail with minimal risk--rapid growing market-- you are in the illegal sex trade with a chinese backer....?

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Is it a bicycle taxi service? Called Croggers?

NJA has it!

Seen a few rapidly growing outlets and these things seem to be catching on big time. Had been discussing how viable a shop would be with Mrs STR when all of a sudden a lad I know popped up selling them. He already had his website up and running and I approached him with a few ideas and a demonstration of a modicum of business knowledge. I expressed an interest in getting involved and gave him some food for thought.

Well he bit and made me an offer. His shop is ready to go next month and I've been offered a 40% share if I match his initial investment - not to be paid to him, but to buy stock. All the leg work is done and everything almost ready to go. For his 60% he runs the shop and online sales, whilst I take care of the figures and get to carry on with my other line of work.

Electronic [s]Cigarettes?[/s] Pipe?

Been using Electronic Cigarettes for over 4 years now and have tried all sorts...

From mass produced Far East stuff to full on Handmade stuff.

What will you be selling ?

I've been offered a 40% share if I match his initial investment

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Good luck with it though.

Read the post thepurist and have a think about it - Cheers anyway though 😉

Mostly stuff like this nealglover and the juices. I've been off the fags 5 weeks now and after the first day didn't even think about smoking - from 20 a day

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God luck fella.

Cheers Al

I've been off the fags for one day,on lozenges atm,can I have a free sample if I write a glowing endorsement on your website please:)

Ha, nice try mikey. The starter kits come in at around £24 and 10ml of juice (lasts me around a week) £2.50. I find the tobacco flavours a bit rough but the fruit flavours really enjoyable. It's a damn sight cheaper than smoking!

It's not a case of 'I want a cigarette but this will do' - I actually prefer it to smoking.

When all up and running I'll speak to STW admin and look at posting the website up here for a donation and offer an STW discount

Good luck!

I quit smoking the start of the year, just went cold turkey. But I know loads of others who have quit/are quitting, and they're all using some form of the above. I reckon there's a market

Cheers David!

Been watching a shop around 10 miles away and they are queuing out of the door. We will be the first outlet in our town, I expect competition springing up though!

Can you send me a link please, email in profile.

Done Neal - Cheers 😉

I wouldn't want to be in a business where the competition is going to be cigarette companies

Yeah we will see johndoh, but in the meantime I'm going to make some hay!

I wouldn't want to be in a business where the competition is going to be cigarette companies

Nicorette and all the other similar companies seem to do ok.

Sure but a pretend cigarette is surely going to be more up a cigarette company's street? And as their sales of real ones declines....

Funnily I have yet to ever see someone 'smoking' one and I have never seen a customer at the little stall in my local shopping centre.

But good luck though - good to try these things.

What the cigarette companies have up their sleeves remains to be seen - I think the biggest problem the growing industry will encounter, is the British Government. It could go 3 ways as I see it - let it carry on unhindered (unlikely), ban the products on the basis that unregulated and health checked 'juice' is coming in from China (ours is from the Far East, but from the Worlds largest manufacturer and regulated (to what degree I'll have to clarify), or (and I think the most likely) they will tax it - people seem to be using these as an alternative to smoking, not an aid to quit!

Oh, people are smoking them - I'm coming across them all the time and in some areas they are extremely popular. Hopefully we are getting into this just at the right time, but you got to take some chances in business. Fortunately, I can keep my other line of work rolling along and have a sleeping role in this to a certain degree!

Funnily I have yet to ever see someone 'smoking' one

You have, you just didn't realise 😉

you could get regulated out of existence. The government will not want to lose all that lovely revenue.

personally, I think they should ban cigarettes totally, and give these out on prescription; it'd improve health, save the NHS money and help the poorest (who smoke the most and spend the highest percentage of income on tabs) out during a time of significant economic duress.

But that won't happen.

Are they not classed as medical devices? I think the gum/patches are either devices or classed as pharmaceuticals.

Hmmm... http://www.bmj.com/content/345/bmj.e6417

Well - shop opened on Tuesday, been trading 4 days (we close Thursdays) and all going absolutely fantastic so far.

Getting great feedback from customers and there seems to be a bit of a buzz around town about it - lots of people been waiting for it to open.

Early days so far, but the signs are good - at this rate it will take around a month to return the initial investment, then we are in profit. Happy days!

Loving the odd day when I get to be a shop manager too - get a buzz out of promoting our goods to customers - makes a big change to my normal day to day business. Tuesday was especially great - first day, sat in the shop having the craic in my shorts (stark contrast to Friday at the side of the M60 in full hi-viz in the rain)

I've been using them for 8 months. Not sure what to make of it all tbh. A few players I'm aware of have dropped out recently, don't know why, it's all fairly new and emerging. A number of big players have got products in the shops (e-lites), but their offer is is a bit poor (nealglover will know what I mean). The good kit, at the moment, has to be discovered on line by users (or emerging local shops). There's also government/EU legislation hanging over it all, not sure where that will go, but probably along the lines of controlling medicinals ie having licences to produce and/or sell e-liquids maybe. At the moment you could buy any old crap to vape, so there will be control of e-liquids at some point in the near future.

Not my bag but know a few converted ex-smokers and they go bananas for the stuff..
Seems to be a lot of selling online though.. You got a decent presence there?
Good luck mate. Should be a money printer for a while yet till the man starts sticking his nose in!

B.A.Nana - you can buy any old crap indeed, but we don't buy that!

I agree, legislation will kick in at some point - 3 options as far as I see - ban, tax and/or regulate. We will see - no point worrying about it yet and deal with it when it happens.

e-lites are crap, so that's a non-story - as indeed you intimate.

It's going off big time at the moment - one popping up on every street corner, but we are the first in our immediate area, so hopefully have the market for now. I have a main business, so this is a sideline - hopefully it will lead to bigger things, but nothing lost in the meantime. 2nd shop opening soon hopefully!

surely as people give up smoking (are these not just an aid to that end?) your market will decline, not expand? Or are you just trying to make money by replacing one addiction with another?

Maybe it will decline, but at the moment the market for the product we are selling is growing. I'm not replacing one addiction with another. People are addicted to nicotine. I'm not changing that, just providing a different way of delivering it - and arguably a much safer way. I've been using one for 7 weeks now and my lungs feel a lot cleaner and my fitness has improved no end.

Good for u chap, keep it up

But I know loads of others who have quit/are quitting, and they're all using some form of the above.

and arguably a much safer way

Would be interested to see research on how good this is for you I assume you have some [ i can hear you googling from here]
No actual research on this is there

Are those chemical liquid in the e-fag safe?

Liquid made in China?

Junkyard - lazarus
But I know loads of others who have quit/are quitting, and they're all using some form of the above.

They have not quit they have simply changed the way they get their fix from nicotine

Sorry, should have said "the;ve quit smoking cigarettes" which is the important thing, cos its them that ****s your lungs.

Glad to hear the shop's going well.

It's not the nicotine that's the issue though, it's the effects of absorption of PG and VG.
There was some concerns that water molecules could form within the lungs whilst vaping IIRC.

My wife uses them at the minute. I stopped 4 years ago & have stayed stopped.

I too was concerned about where the "vape juice" came from therefore bought pharmaceutical grade base ingredients and done my homework. It now costs between £0.10p - £0.16p a day to "vape" and the dosage can be altered to suit. The grand master plan is to drop a milligram a week over 24 weeks then quit. Probably.

Thanks for the mostly positives 😀

Would be interested to see research on how good this is for you I assume you have some [ i can hear you googling from here]No actual research on this is there

Considering you are inhaling vaporised vegetable glycerin or propylene glycol - both found in foodstuffs (we only supply the VG), flavourings and nicotine I'd think it a safe bet that it's not quite as harmful as tar, salt peter, arsenic, formaldehyde etc etc. Wouldnt you? I'm guessing until I provide you with extensive medical proof that you'll carry on the same stance though!

Stu does raise one concern we are aware of though

I think you'll find that PG is in many medicines as well

I think the general consensus about the water molecules is that its no biggie.

I'll try to find the info for you. It was quite interesting.

Oh, and good luck by the way. I wish you every success !

It is indeed stu, including asthma inhalers I've read somewhere

surely as people give up smoking (are these not just an aid to that end?) your market will decline, not expand? Or are you just trying to make money by replacing one addiction with another?

I gave up smoking around 22 years ago and have never wanted to go back. Interestingly a few weeks ago my daughter visited and she had an e-cig with her. For some unknown reason I asked to try it. 😳

My thoughts were that, yes, it's another addiction for those trying to quit but also ex-smokers could be tempted back. For example, the typical habits of smokers are lighting up after dinner/when socialising, if one has any smoking friends left etc etc. The act of choosing what flavour,knowing that it's safer etc., could perhaps entice ex-smokers.

S'OK though, I've no intention of going back. 🙂

Edit: Of course good luck Artist!