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I have been playing some online poker. Just the free stuff against computers with no real money. I have noticed that the cards seem more biased that in the real world. In about 100 hands I have seen five x 4 of a kind happen 3 or 4 times.
By my guesstimate it should be about 4,000:1 against
Do these sites fix the deck so you can win quicker, think you are good, join their PAY CASH sites and get fleeced or is there more to it?
I played for about 3 hours during some dull Conf calls and that is about my total experience in poker since about 30 years ago when I played a bit. I can beat Expert level every time.
Seems really dumbed down and a bit rubbish
This site if it matters : https://www.247freepoker.com/
well, yeah 😂 poker without money is like trying to play football without a ball. Sure, you can PRETEND to kick it, but you’ll never know whether you’d have scored a goal for real 😀Seems really dumbed down and a bit rubbish
No defo not, I’d say give your credit card details and play for proper money. You’ve already proved you’re a real poker king. What could possibly change when real money is involved?
Yep - you kind of agree with me then. Any decent free games out there?
There must be a ton of android/iOS poker apps?
A bloke who I used to work with was a serious poker player. Lovely fella too.
He started structuring his weekends around kicking out times of American bars. He’d get online then and play poker, completely sober, against pissed Americans.
He ended up with his weekend winnings being waaaay more than his day job salary, so jacked in the day job and bought himself a pub, cash, with his winnings and hosted poker evenings.
Doesn’t really answer your question but it’s a good story 😃
Anyway... surely playing poker without money is like betting on horses without money. Utterly pointless
Playing online against computers is a mugs game.
Playing online against real people is more fun, but not as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.
As per the last two comments - I used to play people and have won guitars, amps, cars etc All good fun but helped me at the time. I like the idea of timing US bar empty time. Can work out which time zone to be at for which geography
Think the days of taxing American casuls at the poker table are long gone, there was a big crack down a few years back that decimated the online game.
You could have made good beer money being just reasonably OK at the game back in the day, but it must be harder now.
Two things here.
1) is it possible that it's rigged? Absolutely. That's how most fruit machines work, they're mostly programmed to pay out at about 70% regardless of how much better you think you are than everyone else at hitting flashing buttons.
Counterpoint,
2) Confirmation bias. I've played numerous player-vs-AI games over the years and cannot hold up one which isn't awash with "ZOMG the computer cheats on dice rolls!!1!" reviews. If gambling isn't involved then why would a developer of say a Backgammon app want to deliberately fleece their players? They take pride in their AI and go to great lengths to explain what's happening, or they go open-source so you can see for yourself.
Dice are shits, have you never played a board game and wanted to go and get fresh ones? That's how "random" works. What's the odds of taking two coins and flipping a pair of heads? What's the odds then of doing it a second time? A third?
Are there any decent online poker games you.cpuld play with your mates on zoom?
Me and a few mates (usually between 5-9 of us) have a weekly game using Pokerstars along with Zoom at the same time. Works really well, great laugh, far better than a quiz and just do a £10 buy in. Pokerstars charges you £1 each for the privilege.
I have been playing some online poker. Just the free stuff against computers
How do you know they were computers?
If I was running an online poker site I'd be tempted to skimp on expensive AI by simply renaming real, human noobs to CPU1, 2 and 3 and letting them all play each other.
Once you've got them hooked in and playing for real money , rename your expensive AI to pretend to be human and take all their cash?
Online poker sites take 10% off the top so it's irrelevant whether the players win or lose. License to print money really!!Once you’ve got them hooked in and playing for real money , rename your expensive AI to pretend to be human and take all their cash?
The brain spots patterns and data bunches and isn't linear.
Free poker bears little relation to online real money poker a anyway. Very little money to be made as it's hard to overcome the rake against improved causal players, bots that sneak in and multi-tabling regs.
Play for fun and learn the game well. Organise games against friends and if you're a decent amateur player then make sure sure you share some of your winnings in liquor! Newbies alway want tournaments but you need to push cash games as it's better long term for the group.
Books are great. I'm sure there are some new ones out but going back I remember Moshman on sit n goes being good for home 1 table tourneys and Harrington on cash games being great for, well, full ring cash games.
Loads of online poker schools that are great but I never used them.
Unless you're wanting to grind 8 tables plus for many hours with a high skill level and a big bank roll then there's no cash to be made online.
Still plenty of fish on a weekend night at the 1/2 tables of your local casino when they open!
What I did was introduce friends to the game, put on friendly games, put plenty back in in whisky, had fun.
Stars charging 10% rake on a home game these days? Ouch!
Proper online poker is regulated in the UK, and randomness and hand distributions are tested all the time.
As said above, people that make money are mainly grinders, who play multiple tables for ages and only take part in hands where they have a good chance of success.
That is very different from a free to play app for a bit of fun, where there are no requirements for things to be equal or fair, just fun for the player to keep them coming back to drive ad revenue.
Binners, I'll stick that one with the divorcee and the £10 Jag.
1) is it possible that it’s rigged? Absolutely. That’s how most fruit machines work, they’re mostly programmed to pay out at about 70% regardless of how much better you think you are than everyone else at hitting flashing buttons.
I worked for a large gaming company doing the illustrations for the fruit machine glasses. The machines are programmed by men (and they were all men in this morality-free industry) with brains the size of planets. Be in no doubt, these blokes are serious mathematicians. There are sequences, but the chances of your average half-pissed bloke in the pub being able to see them are absolutely zero
I didn't last long in that job. I used to feel dirty by the end of the day. There are some truly horrible people in that business
Strange, as I am in the industry and we have a good female representation.
These games are simply maths based, and are clearly advertised now. So if you check a slot game, it will show the return to player % so you know the odds. It is as simple as that most online games are around 96% RTP, so for each £1 wagered, you expect £0.96 back.
Obviously this is done by some spins having a 0 win, and some being much bigger.
Poker is just a random dealing of a deck of cards, the money is made by taking rake.
The fact that the industry is now regulated, and games are tested is a good thing. The current focus on reducing VIP programs are also good, and affordability checks will all help.
The problem with all of this is that it drives people to off shore, unlicensed operators, where there are no controls.
t is as simple as that most online games are around 96% RTP, so for each £1 wagered, you expect £0.96 back.
quite a small margin, but when you apply the law of large numbers it becomes very profitable for the online casino. The variance in some of the online slots is huge so on some you get smallish wins frequently and others long losing streaks with the odd bigish win.