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With them threatening Pfizer they are being really think and taking a short termism approach.
Basically Pfizer are restructuring their plant in Belgium too allow a much higher output. So by reducing output for a few weeks they can provide a much higher output after that and for a longer time. Chances are the delivery they then got for throwing the toys about was destined for a different country with less impact.
Basically the Italian government is being Billy big balls so it looks good for the media.
I don't know what has gone on with the az ones other than the media reporting production issues. Guess what, that happens, I have heard of million pound (production cost) batches of medicines getting binned due to production errors. The difference is with those medicines is that there is usually a stockpile already with the vaccine there is none


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 4:07 pm
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if that stat bears out – a 35 year old is statistically more likely to suffer long covid, than an 80 year old is to die. We save a whole load of folk for a few years, and have a raft of people with long term respiratory damage?

Yep..

Although I'm assuming that long covid is an all encapsulating term for symptoms over 3 months. I'm hoping that most of those cases will be feeling a bit shitty and losing focus a bit at work, rather than enlarged hearts, permanently scarred lungs and being confined to a wheelchair for the forseable.


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 4:43 pm
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a 35 year old is statistically more likely to suffer long covid, than an 80 year old is to die

Not sure I follow your working on this?

I’m assuming that long covid is an all encapsulating term for symptoms over 3 months

5 weeks and over was the definition I saw. Any symptom from a mild cough upwards.


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 6:39 pm
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Not sure I follow your working on this?

I think his logic is that young folks have a 1 in 10 chance of long covid (as reported by the ons - and yes it's one in 10 that show symptoms etc etc), yet if you are 80 you have around a 1 in 12 chance of dying with it.

Tbf I'd much rather have a 1 in 10 chance of long covid than one 1 in 12 of dying, but it does somewhat underline the health crisis we are going to be facing. Badlywireddog's post makes very sobering reading.


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 7:24 pm
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That is precisely the point of vaccinations, to provide herd immunity.

Correct me if im wrong, but I was under the impression heard immunity was something we gained from being exposed to the virus like say chickenpoxs? Giving people a vaccine isn't really herd immunity right its immunising a population. I maybe wrong though im not even am armchair scientists.


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 7:45 pm
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I might be wrong but I was under the impression that herd immunity was where enough of the population is immune then the virus cannot spread and then {kinda} dies out as it has "nowhere to go".
That immunity can come from prior infection or vaccination.

Probably wrong but sounds good!


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 8:19 pm
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chaps, get thee to the main thread.


 
Posted : 25/01/2021 8:28 pm
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