[Closed] On benefits and proud Channel 5

Televised version of the Daily Mail.

These people are trolling big style, my new favourite show 🙂

Ah, televised trolling!

Lucky bastards

Dole queen heather frost and her 267 children.......

Well these people do exist. Virgin in one room and Sky in another....

Will they be giving a running commentary on the size of their tellies?

These people are amateurs, Iain Duncan Smith's family gets £3,000 per week in benefits (subsidies) on their country estate.

Virgin in one room

Shes no virgin. 😕

INDEED!
Biscuit Powered - Member
These people are amateurs, Iain Duncan Smith's family gets £3,000 per week in benefits (subsidies) on their country estate.

"...more money on fags and the TV package than the weekly shop..."

"...free 1/2million house, yeah OK but its a shit view out the back..."

Says it all really.

These people are amateurs, Iain Duncan Smith's family gets £3,000 per week in benefits (subsidies)

+ 1 million

Strange how there's never any programs about how much the MPs scrounge off the state.

Have any of them got a duck house? If not, then they really are amateur's. Moat cleaning is where it's at when it comes to proper leeching off 'hard-working people'

What about the royals? Biggest scroungers of the lot!

Life on benefits is shiiiiiit

Surely fags and sky for a week would be more than most people's weekly shop?

What's the matter with you people, don't you ever read the papers ffs ?

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The Royals don't scrounge - we happily give it to them! Oh well, fair enough really as they generate more than they cost.

You may happily give it to them. I resent it enormously! Why is a family with vast personal wealth being subsidised by us? Actually.... That's a question we could also ask of the entire cabinet

How about because it's got Her Majesty's face on the banknotes ?

cooking oil 😀

they generate more than they cost.

Any half decent employee should.

On the subject of the Royal Family, Prince William told the chaps who were playing football on the lawn at Buckingham Palace that they should be careful not to smash any windows as the owner would get upset! Do we the loyal subjects/tax payers not own Buckingham Palace?

The mum talking her daughter out of her new job was priceless. Literally 😀

Boils my piss. I can't bring my self to watch it. Feel like forming a hate squad / mob every time I read or hear about things like that.

I think a certain Mr P Dacre has beat you to it

Boils my piss. I can't bring my self to watch it. Feel like forming a hate squad / mob every time I read or hear about things like that.

FFS calm down, she's just an old lady.

And she's done us proud bless her.

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Can't believe people actually watch trolling crap like this.

3. Job-seekers allowance: 29% of people think we spend more on JSA than pensions, when in fact we spend 15 times more on pensions (£4.9bn vs £74.2bn)[iv].

4. Benefit fraud: people estimate that 34 times more benefit money is claimed fraudulently than official estimates: the public think that £24 out of every £100 spent on benefits is claimed fraudulently, compared with official estimates of £0.70 per £100[v].

9. Benefit bill: people are most likely to think that capping benefits at £26,000 per household will save most money from a list provided (33% pick this option), over twice the level that select raising the pension age to 66 for both men and women or stopping child benefit when someone in the household earns £50k+. In fact, capping household benefits is estimated to save £290m[xi], compared with £5bn[xii] for raising the pension age and £1.7bn[xiii] for stopping child benefit for wealthier households.

More information here for the hard of thinking:

http://www.ipsos-mori.com/researchpublications/researcharchive/3188/Perceptions-are-not-reality.aspx

I'm not a Royalist, but I do agree with the Royals and what comes with that.
Ex-forces I can't really say I'm against the Royals can I? For Queen and Country and all that 😆

Is "I'm a fully employed Internet surfing employee that's killing returns to shareholdea and tax revenue" next week? How about "I'm a political appointee to the board of public organizations and I milk it for all that it's worth"?

9. Benefit bill: people are most likely to think that capping benefits at £26,000 per household will save most money from a list provided (33% pick this option), over twice the level that select raising the pension age to 66 for both men and women or stopping child benefit when someone in the household earns £50k+. In fact, capping household benefits is estimated to save £290m[xi]

The difference being that most people get a pension after a lifetime of contributions. Not a lifetime of scrounging. The old age pension is taxable. The 26K limit is tax free - equal to a salary of somewhere around 35K.

Edit ... Just off out now to star work at 6AM. 26K a year? Is that not around the average UK salary? For people that work for it. Maybe 20K after tax and NI?

mulv1976 - Member
These people are amateurs, Iain Duncan Smith's family gets £3,000 per week in benefits (subsidies)
+ 1 million

Strange how there's never any programs about how much the MPs scrounge off the state.

Any data behind this - what the subsidies are for etc?

I mean you wouldn't want to be mud-flinging without the full information, like the Daily Mail, would you?

I mean you wouldn't want to be mud-flinging without the full information, like the Daily Mail, would you?

Why not....... is mud-flinging a Daily Mail monopoly activity ?

No Ernie, (not sure why you come out with this?) as you well know, it's for idiots-see Grum's post above.

No

Well in that case I can't see a problem with using Daily Mail style tactics against Iain Duncan Smith.

Good for you.

But not so good for you ?

All these people being horrid to the nice Iain Duncan Smith 🙁

I have no opinions either way on IDS, it's just ironic how the Mail gets flamed on here, then folk use its tactics, and others like you defend them, purely because of your political bias - unless you have a different reason?

No, it's purely because of my political bias that I think it's fine to demonise Tories.

have you actually tried getting on benefits.....its nigh on impossible
those people have mad skillz

The difference being that most people get a pension after a lifetime of contributions. Not a lifetime of scrounging. The old age pension is taxable. The 26K limit is tax free - equal to a salary of somewhere around 35K.

Edit ... Just off out now to star work at 6AM. 26K a year? Is that not around the average UK salary? For people that work for it. Maybe 20K after tax and NI?

So are you suggesting that most people on benefits get them as part of a 'lifetime of scrounging'? Do you have any evidence for this?

You do know that the vast majority of benefits go to pensioners, those in work, and the disabled - don't you?

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Some more facts for you here. But then you can prove anything with facts can't you.

http://www.jrf.org.uk/welfare-reform

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/06/welfare-britain-facts-myths

I turned it off when that fat mess was having her nails done, it was that or a smashed telly...

compositepro - Member
have you actually tried getting on benefits.....its nigh on impossible
those people have mad skillz

^^^this

I was unemployed for 6months this year apart from my 70 quid a week (that required many a pointless trip to the dole office to 'earn') the best i got was a discounted bus pass

Had 6 months unemployed myself. It is an experience I really do not want to repeat. Similar benefits to kimbers but without the bus pass (bastard!)

Anyone watching this and thinking that it is a life style to aspire to or be jealous of is an idiot. When making a programme of this nature they will naturally pick the "cream" of the crop to ensure "entertainment" although I'm not sure what sort of person finds it entertaining. As with most reality TV, it bears very little resemblance to real life.

It's on Channel 5, I don't want to be associated with anyone that watches Channel 5 - please leave the Forum 🙂

the title, coupled with the channel, suggest it a show designed to outrage.