[Closed] Office "workers" bleating on about how hard they work.

Tougher than sitting under a bridge all day

Don't worry, come Armageddon, shuffling bits of paper and tippy-tapping out stuff on a keyboard won't have the same value as they do presently 😉

How dare you dismiss my essential contribution to a functioning and well rounded society?! Have you the remotest idea how hard it is to not go over the black lines with the felt tips when you're colouring in? Have you?

You haven't got a clue how difficult is is! I've never been so insulted in all my life!

I've had manual jobs. I'll take skivving half the day anytime! 🙂

BTW manual jobs aren't particularly difficult either. Couple of weeks and youre tuned into it.

likewise, took 3 mins out of my arduous day of pressing buttons and talking to people on the phone to find this:

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Nurses, financial analysists, photographers, cheese-makers. We're all a bit lazy.

Trolling aside, I'd love to bring an overworked office worker out to try my job - at night, at the side of the motorway, in freezing temperatures and all weathers. I've done the office nonsense and give me some of this any day though...

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Agreed 9-5 is a bit outdated, always thought it odd that I start work two hours before the office opens.
Then they can go to lunch for a whole hour at the same time every day and no one misses them.
Then they leave 5pm on the dot.
If you have a job you can stop just like that?

I'd say my job is roughly 30% doing stuff and the rest of the time fannying about on the Web.

I've done the office nonsense and give me some of this any day though...

Everybody everywhere loves jumping in muddy puddles.

to be honest I had a meeting this morning, then dropped the missus at work went to pick some stuff up and have a cup of tea at the LBS, caught up with a few e-mails had lunch played a bit of skyrim then sorted out my flights and hotels for a work jolly next week.

I only put down the 4hrs of work on my invoice though.

Part Time is such hard work...

It's hard work reading the forum all day. I'm paid way to little for the job.

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I feel sorry for them. Poor things, all I do is hang around for the day then bugger off home...

Agreed 9-5 is a bit outdated, always thought it odd that I start work two hours before the office opens.

I agree poor things I had to drive one of these most yesterday at high speeds.

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Luckily after 9 hours on it I was allowed a break and then another 40 minutes before I was due to go home.

I wish my office job was 9-5 😥

Should have stuck in at school...

Don't hate the players hate the game 😉

Trolling aside, I'd love to bring an overworked office worker out to try my job

I'd just delegate the job back to you. Good point though, your job looks awful compared to mine.

According to some of the consultants I work with I only work gentlemen's hours, and choose the colour of the wallpaper. What's not to like?

Office worker here. I work 9.45-5.45 because I'm no good at getting up in the morning. I usually knock off a bit early because I'm tired too.

[devil's advocate]

People who haven't worked out that selling the product of your brain can earn you more money in less time and more comfort than selling the product of your labour and then come on here bleating about it need to think about where the problem really lies.

[/devil's advocate]

to be honest, I find myself more tired after a day working at a desk than I do after a day doing physical work. It's not the same tiredness but it's more pervasive.

The need to 'switch off' and do something is really strong and working at home means that opportunity is limited as I tend to go straight from my desk to cooking tea etc with now downtime that you'd get on even a short commute.

I have the fun of all of it..some days in the office some suited and bootted with clients or regualators and then other days doing mental hours on jobs and in situations that most folks would either poo themselves doing or vomit..mix of dangerous heights..confined spaces..explosuve atmospheres..and then on a good day..bits of person in a bag. And unlike the pure manual workers anf a lot if the standard office bods. .I haven't had a holiday or day off in the past 18 years where I haven't also ended up working at some point, or doinf a quick bit of consultancy for a major client...you lot don't know you're born...I tell ya 😀

To be fair, I'd be probably pretty bored in a job that I could be trained for in a year or two, not all of us want to do mind numbing manual work in the pissing rain, some actually enjoy doing stuff with their brainz (like surfing troll threads on a bicycle website).

Agreed though, when it all goes a bit Walking Dead, fixing stuff will be a far more important skill than anything you can do from a desk. You only need to look at the fact that all world leaders came from manual job backgrounds to understand how well those skills transfer into a high pressure environment

Pre Apocalypse , Boss says = "You there, fix that"
Post Apocalypse, Tribal leader (prob not a sparky himself) says = "You there, fix that"

Roll on the end of the world when we see the true worth of the non office working heros 🙂

Luckily for me I have been taking the apocalypse far more seriously than I do my day job... So hopefully my cisco qualifications that I use for work won't haven't impaired my other skills. But then I probably only do 10 hours of work a week the rest is spent preparing for impending doom.

Previously I had a hard 'office' job. Out at 6am and back at +7pm a couple of days a week with the rest been earlier/later and hotels plus constant travelling (ie couple of flights per week and 100 mile return trip commutes and w/e's away in far off places).

Often on the phone when I left home (with Asia) and when I phone come back (USA). And managing/leading over 50 staff plus reporting many projects to a plc Board. But I enjoyed it.

I've an easy office job now. Easy as it's public sector so short hours and plenty of holidays. Bloody hard on the brain, ie mental stress of constantly dealing with chaos and folk who've no idea how to do their jobs. My team are good though and my direct Boss is good (younger and learning all the time). This job makes me want to retire...

Who said a job has to be hard?

I've done crappy manual jobs in the past. As someone else said, once you're tuned into them you can switch off and do them like a robot. Skilled manual work I've never tried but I didn't like the unskilled type enough to want to try to make a career of it.

Luckily for me I have been taking the apocalypse far more seriously than I do my day job

You're not the only one. Whenever i'm googling for reviews of outdoor equipment, I always come across videos on youtube of people who are "preparing" for something very bad to happen. It's actually quite scary, there seems to be a whole community of them, stashing weapons/tools/food etc and practising drills. Mostly american mind you 🙂

Eeewww Drac drives a white BMW. Chav 😛

Bearing in mind the average salary on here:

I have been most miserable at work earning £10 an hour, 12 hours a day to put up fences or being a drayman. Only body work

I have been happiest at work earning £8 an hour on a 40 hour week doing an excellent stock control job- mind and body work.

Now I get minimum wage in a body only job while working on getting another brain and body job.

I get the feeling from these threads that it's very much "look at me, look at me".

Poor you. It could be worse.

I like working with my hands to be honest. My brain isn't so sharp so a bit of graft during the day gives it some downtime. I guess what I do is the right balance for me. There can be a few hours of boring graft, followed by a few hours of more crafty stuff that requires concentration and creativity. If I had a job where I was either completely knackered every day physically or struggled to "switch off", I'd change it. I struggle with taking orders from someone so just keeping things between me and my clients (who are my boss anyway) works fine.

TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsSTR, you're right, I wouldn't have a clue. I'm not qualified to. As such, I doubt very much you're qualified to do what I from the comfort of my warm office with tea and coffee on tap and a pretty receptionist.

Ok, so this is a response to the "teachers" thread, but he's right you know.

You won't hear me bleating on about how hard my office job is..
I'm a project manager for an Engineering department who build refrigeration kit for Navy Ships and Submarines.
I'm out of the office one or two days a week, and mostly enjoy the job.. every day is different, and I've been to some cool places and work with some interesting people.
I generally work 8.30 - 4.30 so get home in good time to see the kids before they go to bed.
The pay is reasonable, better than I'd get if I was still on building sites/doing manual jobs that I spent 12 years doing previously.
Plus I'm not out in the cold/wind/rain/snow.
In fact it was standing on scaffolding in a gale about 11 years ago that made me decide to go back to Uni, get a proper qualification and get a career rather than a job.

Oh, and I've got a white BMW as well 😀

I'm supposed to do a 'professional day'. This generally seems to include 3 hours of commuting and eating lunch at my desk and trying to leave before 6pm without causing too much tutting. Unemployed now but trying to find more of the same for some reason.

The only stres I've ever felt from all my jobs is either due to the idiots I've worked with (bosses in particular) or not having enough to do (ie. boredom).

Eeewww Drac drives a white BMW. Chav

Not by choice, it's bloody awful.

I'd say my job is roughly 30% doing stuff and the rest of the time fannying about on the Web.

You need to join a union, 30% is way too much.

[devil's advocate]

People who haven't worked out that selling the product of your brain can earn you more money in less time and more comfort than selling the product of your labour and then come on here bleating about it need to think about where the problem really lies.

[/devil's advocate]

[i]Office work isn't necessarily well paid or more comfortable than non-desk jobs. [/i]

hence the 'can earn you more money' rather than a 'does earn you more money'.

there's a spectrum for most employment in terms of salary v comfort at work v job security v enjoyment.

People choose (sometimes and if they're lucky) how they want to balance those elements.

72 hours last week.

I need a rest.

Work in Hospitality/Events - done the whole 12-18hr day, and do it again tomorrow still smiling shit. Also did nightshift. Got to the place in time now where I'm paid for what I know and not what I do, somesay job is a cushy number I wouldn't disagree. Bored shitless most days though...

I always feel like the point of these threads is for people to laugh at office workers and say

"ha! we work harder than you and for less money!"

erm...well done you? 🙂

peterfile - Member
Luckily for me I have been taking the apocalypse far more seriously than I do my day job
You're not the only one. Whenever i'm googling for reviews of outdoor equipment, I always come across videos on youtube of people who are "preparing" for something very bad to happen. It's actually quite scary, there seems to be a whole community of them, stashing weapons/tools/food etc and practising drills. Mostly american mind you

ha ha.. them 'mericans are ace.

I always feel like the point of these threads is for people to laugh at office workers and say

"ha! we work harder than you and for less money!"

build refrigeration

I've been to some cool places

I'd blimmin hope they were cool 😛

Rusty Spanner - Member
72 hours last week.

I need a rest.

I rather be a peasant than work that many hours!

I just don't think I could work those hours. I'd do even less than I do now.

peterfile - Member

I always feel like the point of these threads is for people to laugh at office workers and say

"ha! we work harder than you and for less money!"

erm...well done you?

The plus side is that the manual worker hasn't become completely emasculated.
Seriously, the stench of oestrogen in here can be a fraction stifling.
😆

I may work harder but I bet I don't earn less than many office workers so I'll stick to feeling happy about my choice of career...

but I bet I don't earn less than many office workers

That is of course the only important yardstick of success.

That is of course the only important yardstick of success.

Definitely not a yardstick of success, but for most it's the only reason they give up most of their waking hours to work.

The trouble with the protestant work ethic is that it's so terribly po-faced.

Lighten up people!

My 'office job' certainly wasn't 9-5 and did involve site work too - it was a reasonable salary of £40k+, company car and other benefits. To a degree I was my own boss and ended up in my position as a Contracts Manager from initially being out on site as a skilled op and working my way up.

In the end it ground me down, partly due to myself and the way I managed things, but largely due to the actual working environment. I'm now back doing what I do best and wouldn't go back. Fortunately, I am now my own boss of two businesses and I get paid very well for standing in a shitty hole at the side of the motorway.

Downside - the supervisor working for the company I work for spent half the night covered in blood, helping walking wounded whilst the emergency services attempted to cut a mangled lad out of a car that had come through the works and rolled 50mtrs down the motorway on it's roof. Not sure how he, or his pregnant g/f are doing - here's hoping they are going to pull through 🙁 Fortunately none of the gang working nearby were injured, but it's a dangerous environment.

You're not kidding OMITN

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I am a desk jockey and some days I would love to be outside doing something a bit more manual. In reality I think if I did that I would long to be sat in a warm office drinking good coffee.

My answer is to not let work rule my life and to do fulfilling things outside of work.

Sort of an office job here, but spend 70% of my time travelling to other countries rather than working.

I think I'm starting to go through a mid life crisis, and I'm wanting to retrain.
I'm in the 40's, would you?

I always feel like the point of these threads is for people to laugh at office workers and say

"ha! we work harder than you and for less money!"

No not in my case.