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Oh My Word. Surely the worst 007 film ever. Dire from start to end, becoming more and more dire as it goes.
Dr No however, superb. I'm biased though 'cos I'm sort of in it. My pregnant mum was an extra.
From Russia With Love is the winner TBFH.
Surely the worst 007 film ever
Not even close.
Anything pre-Daniel Craig was utter crap and that's the hill I'll die on.
Edit - and some of his have had their moments.
Surely the worst 007 film ever.
Surely view to a Kill is worse?
Moonraker is the worst.
Octopussy is definitely up there. Moonraker possibly the most ridiculous, even by Bond standards. Can't actually recall View to a Kill, though it's in line for worst theme song
They’re all a bit shit really. Just degrees of badness. The only one I’ve enjoyed is the Home Alone style one with Daniel Craig.
Moonraker is the worst.
**** off. That is genius.
Dalton was the best bond.
Die Another Day worst film.
From Russia With Love best film
Moonraker and Live and Let Die are probably my favourites.
Octopussy definitely one of the worst, along with most of Brosnan's films. Moore wasn't all bad, I've got a soft spot for Live and Let Die.
Dr No is my favourite Bond film. Though Craig has his moments.
The only one I’ve enjoyed is the Home Alone style one with Daniel Craig.
Excellent description, I may borrow that
Dalton was the best bond.
Die Another Day worst film.
From Russia With Love best film
Correct.
He didn't get the best scripts, but Dalton was the closest to Fleming's Bond. Craig is in second place, as long as you overlook the Bond Home Alone bit! Think I'll go with Casino Royale as the second best film as well.
However...Madonna, dreadful CGI, Toby Stevens giving it the full ham, Madonna, Halle Berry, Madonna and that dreadful CGI. Oh, and Madonna. Die Another Day is a festering turd of a film.
Moonraker is the worst.
That entire film is saved by the line
"I think he's attempting re-entry"
I love the Rodger Moore films , especially Octopussy and spy who loved me . When i was a kid in the early 90s the Moore films were it seemed always on ITV on a Saturday and they were just modern enough with proper big enough stunts to give them a wow factor , a man skiing of a cliff, a man holding on to the outside of an aeroplane and a barrel rolling car . And Moore injecting a bit of fun into it which is the key part that i think the later ones are missing .
Dr No on tonight on stv (Scotch itv) 8:30.
I think the bond actors all did well tho.
Did you know Connery wore a toupe in every one, and the Toyota S2000(?) Was made into a drop top at short notice because he couldn't fit in it. I don't think there's even a tonneau cover on it.
Spectre is up there for the worst imo
Dr No
OHMSS
Thunderball
Gold finger
Live and Let Die
Casino Royale
Would be my top 6 favourite Bond films. I reckon Dalton would have made an excellent Bond if he’d had Craig’s scripts to work with; they both have that gritty, brutal edge that slowly disappeared at the end of Sean Connery’s shift.
Any Bond movie with Roger Moore is basically panto for grown ups. He doesn't even try to hide the ham.
View them for what they are and they're hilarious.
Quantum of Solace was a crock of sh!te.
Octopussy was awful but Maud Adams was the greatest Bond girl. Just stunning (both times).
That’s my hill.
Anything pre-Daniel Craig was utter crap
I think you mean anything post Sean Connery.
Dr. No
From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
You can stick the rest.
The thing about Octopussy, is I can't remember a single thing about it.
Dr. No
Is almost impossibly dated now as to make it almost unwatchable, even if you ignore the white actors pretending to be Chinese with really rather racist makeup, the script is terrible and the acting even worse. I suppose there's small mercy as at least the giant squid fight (in the book, but not the film) was left out...
Goldfinger
Which is truly appalling. Aside from being full of gaping plot holes, it shows Bond to be utterly useless. Gives himself away, gets the first girl killed. Screws up a simple recce mission and gets the second girl killed. Is outwitted by a mirror and a granny with a machine gun. Spends the rest of the film as a prisoner and the CIA turn up at the end to defuse the bomb.
He's ****ing useless.
Mad to think Dalton only got the gig because Brosnan had to do another series of Remington Steele, which was all but cancelled.
Shame the world wasn't ready for Dalton's grittier portrayal. Always makes me think of that Alan Partridge episode where he's having a a Bond marathon, Jones the Bond...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TC8dWWImNzU
Loved that portable jet in Octopussy at the time (primary school age)
They're all very poor films.
People just come around to it at different stages.
Bank holiday Monday evening when you're a kid is pretty low bar.
Popular though.
Brosnan was the best.
Dalton or Lazenby the worst.
At least Roger Moore could wear a pair of flares and crack a gag at the same time.
The Scottish wifebeater was too thuggish and Daniel Craig looks like a hairdresser.
Goldeneye is the best film.
And one of the best ever videogames too. 🙂
The films are a long long way from the books. Casino royale I think it is BOnd was an utter bastard. One he got tortured in - casino royale again?
Octopussy had a good theme tune though. Just sayin'
Brosnan was the best.
Dalton or Lazenby the worst.
I’ll assume typos and you meant that all to be the other way round or, wow....
Dalton was the best bond.
Die Another Day worst film.
From Russia With Love best film
Pretty much, though I’d probably go with Goldfinger for best by a hair.
Quantum of Solace is one of my favourite Bond films, great set pieces, Olga Kurylenko what’s not to like?
People frothing about the artistic merits of Bond films is approaching peak STW 😂
Goldeneye is the best film.
No, it's dross.
Die Another Day is a festering turd of a film.
It is, yet it started quite promisingly: captured by the North Koreans and abandoned by Britain. Then the silliness started, without Moore's wit.
Brosnan is awful. I can't watch him. He does this weird huff at the end of sentences which drives me insane.
Worst film is the one with Jonathan Pryce in it as Elliot Carver. Considering his credentials as an actor, he was utterly terrible.
It is, yet it started quite promisingly:
Most of the Brosnan ones [b]started[/b] quite promisingly! The remaining 3/4's of the film was generally cringeworthy. Goldeneye was actually quite good (bar some of the usual plot holes you could fly a jumbo through).
But none of the rest of the Brosnan films lived up to that, the scripts got steadily worse and the expectations of the film being as good as / better than Goldeneye got steadily higher.
Dalton was the best bond.Die Another Day worst film.
From Russia With Love best film
Yes
Yes
No, Living Daylights.
Interesting* fact:
Octopussy's girls were armed with BSA Scorpion air pistols in the scene where they fought off Kamal Khan's men.
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*not guaranteed by any stretch
Proper arousing to see a late 50s Roger Moore shagging a hot woman in her 20s. Made me think there’s still a possibility.
But yeah, they’re not films I spend any time on.
Bond movies by this stage were basically The Benny Hill Show with guns and explosions.
Roger Moore's Bond films may not be for everyone, but at least they all had Roger Moore in them.
I agree on the later Brosnan films being the worst - just a bland, lazy mess of bad CGI, clunky product placement and dull plots.
Also agree that Goldeneye was good though. Sean Bean was one of the best baddies for sure.
Quantum of Solace is one of my favourite Bond films, great set pieces, Olga Kurylenko what’s not to like?
I love the film (and the song). Wasn't Olga Kurylenko the first female lead to NOT get shagged by Bond?
Spectre can go get in the sea.
From Russia with Love is on at 21:00 this coming Saturday on ITV.
Octopussy is very poor, but I've a soft spot for it as it was the first one I went to the cinema to see...
They're all dreadful, but at least Moore could ham it up, and realised no one really took it seriously! 🙂
I don't get all the love for the Dalton Bonds, he just smirked his way through the film's. There is a reason why they are the least repeated Bonds
Die Another Day is possibly the worst film I have ever paid money to watch.
Watched Dr No at the weekend, Dr No was killed off and the day was saved pretty easily back then!
Octopussy is one of my favourite Bond films, RM is brilliant in it, love it's outrageousness! Great theme song too. I get why people think Bond should be "serious", they are wrong mind 😂 That said, I do like the Dalton ones. Got absolutely no time for Craig at all though; Bourne does it all better. As for Brosnan... Goldeneye is great, lets just leave it at that!!
They're all ridiculous, camp, big budget, action cheese with corny one-liners.
Some are quite good at it, Goldfinger, Golden Gun, Moonraker, Spectre, Goldeneye.
Some less so, like that one with Madonna in, that was just bad from start to finish, or that one where Connery turned up and remade an earlier film, except without it being in any way good.
Never Say Never Again.
Not official.
Never Say Never Again.Not official.
And yet marginally better than Thunderball!
License to Kill was excellent
Had some actual plot/back story with his friend murdered, giving up his job to pursue the guy on his own; it had a topical (for the time) and beleivable villain rather than generic evil billionaire and/or soviet generals; and some interesting but not unbeleivable gadgetry and stunts, that don't steal the show.
Some of the earlier ones (especially Goldfinger as mentioned upthread) Bond acheives nothing except drinking and shagging his way through someone elses story
he just smirked his way through the film’s.
...well this was before smirking was banned in bars and restaurants.
Bond's main contribution to culture was mid-period Archer.
phrasing!mid-period Archer
There can be little argument that brosnan is perhaps the greatest exponent of the craft of acting of all time
A virtuoso technician. For example his most famous scene is a masterful display of understatement and nuance
Ladies and gentlemen I am of course talking about the classic 'Taffin':
Of course the directors cut is possibly the connoisseurs choice:
That car in The Living Daylights...
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Dalton was okay.
I saw Roger in the bogs at Nice airport a few years back.
Craig is an unappreciative miserable bastard who's shit in the role.
Craig is an unappreciative miserable bastard who’s shit in the role.
Now that is such total bollocks.
He does behave like he doesn't really wanna be doing it, but I wouldn't say he was shit.
That car in The Living Daylights…
Best car in the whole series.
The DB5 is nice but it's kind of LOOK AT ME! territory. The V8 Vantage is understated class. There's some interesting stuff about it on Wikipedia about the "conversion" from convertible to hardtop.
Also, they're bringing it back in the new Bond film! 🙂
Connery was excellent for his time but I rapidly grew to hate the 'humour' which increased and became overpowering in the following films, most of which haven't aged well. Daniel Crag seems to embody more of Flemings original character and IMO is excellent in the role. Having said that, Spectre was total crap with very little to offer on any level.
It's only a bit of entertainment though and I'll definitely be watching NTTD when it comes out.
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The 'one shot' opening in Spectre is ace
Ooo, Octopussy just starting on ITV4 🙂
first 13 mins have raised a smile at least!
Yep watching it now!! 🎈 🔪 🤡
What has being "Scottish" got to do with it ?
Definitely one of my favourites
On some level they're all awful and yet there's not one I wouldn't sit and watch if it was on and I had a spare couple of hours - even that stupid one with Madonna in. Switch off your disbelief and relax.
There are bits of all of them that are good and you don't have to like bond to find good stuff and characters.
A lot of the films have good baddies and side characters who had a bit of charm. Mr White and Mathis in the recent films along with Tanner. Q is always good for a one liner.
Some of the earlier bad guys were pretty impressive if you view them in the context of the time of the films.
Scaramonger was ruthless, educated and cold blooded.
Drax was to me at least an embodiment of a return to Nazi ideologies and genocidal racial cleansing for the space race generation. Against the backdrop of the shuttle programme it was of its time I'd say.
Resurrecting this thread to give you David Mitchell's take on the second-best Bond.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/aug/16/the-names-bond-second-best-bond
“I think he’s attempting re-entry”
Rodger Moore
And for the avoidance of doubt, Daniel Craig and Casino Royale are the best. Although some "purists" tout OHMSS and bemoan the fact that Connery returned for Diamonds are Forever, rather than allowing Lazenby to continue and avenge Tracy.
The best Bond cars are the 2CV, the rebuilt orange Lotus and the Toyota.
The DB5 was ok,if you like HGV's.
Nah it’s the Lotus, I remember as a kid In the cinema It driving down that jetty and the last thing you expected was it to turn into a submarine.
Oddly it was the lotus mechanic who went to Sardinia with the cars that ended up doing all the stunt driving.
They're all pretty shit but I like them. They say more about me, Britain and British culture more than any other film or series I can think of.
Great cars, stunt scenes, beautiful glamorous women, fantastic music and stunning locations.
Die Another Day. End Of
Oddly it was the lotus mechanic who went to Sardinia with the cars that ended up doing all the stunt driving.
To give Roger Becker his dues he was a lot more than just a mechanic and his driving skills being called on shouldn't be that surprising.
If you think that Dalton was anywhere near the Bond from the books then you clearly haven’t read the books.
Casino Royale is by far the best Bond film, as it sticks roughly to the original novel. Pretty much everything else has had terrible screenwriters, including Roald Dahl, who introduced most of the nonsense that is still pervasive in the films, unfortunately.
If I were to be in charge of Bond I’d take it back to basics and set it back in the 50s. Bond shouldn’t have any ridiculous gadgets, nor should he be an expert in every f***ing thing. He is much more believable in the books because he escapes from situations by luck and cunning rather than by being able to fly a helicopter or perform some complex martial arts moves.
JP
think i'll stick to the films then, the books sound bloody boring. i do find all books boring though, must be well over 30 years since i've read one.
quite enjoying watching them all at the moment, just switch off for a couple of hours entertainment.
Die Another Day. End Of
...the franchise? Probably came close.
The invisible car in the film CFH posted the gif of is probably the worst moment in any bond film. Just stupid. So much product placement in that one too IIRC.