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[Closed] Obscene vandalism (with a car) of Clumber Park Bridge (Sherwood)

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 rone
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Had to divert this morning on a ride as Clumber Bridge has been vandalised with a car, smashing it to pieces and then setting fire to the car.

https://twitter.com/NTClumberPark/status/969939740555440130?s=19

Why now, especially given the limited resources and general miserable time for the emergency services. Can't get my head around this one at all.

Area is my back yard and a conduit for Sherwood Pines.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 2:42 pm
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Why now, especially given the limited resources and general miserable time for the emergency services. Can’t get my head around this one at all.

Brexit.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 2:46 pm
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We were 68% vote leave, so that's probably not a joke.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 2:49 pm
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never understood vandalism its a crime from which you dont even benefit

as for why some people are just arseholes


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 2:51 pm
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Looks as though it used to be a beautiful bridge and do hope it will be restored.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:05 pm
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WTF! Inconsiderate selfish w*nkers that have done this - hope they can track em down.  Make them repair it in the summer when it’s really busy, and put some info boards up to explain who is doing the repairs and why - I’m sure they’ll get a lovely reception;)

Know that bridge and Clumber well, as it’s on one of my regular circuits.  Loads of people use and enjoy the park around there.  Sadly, given some of the ignorant low-life’s around this way, it doesn’t entirely surprise me.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:19 pm
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What a set of ****s.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:25 pm
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That’s quite an achievement to cause that amount of damage, I wonder if the occupants were hurt.. and how did they leave the scene...?


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:27 pm
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You’re on a hiding to nothing trying to rationalise it. I had a rant on here not long back. Mrs Binners works for the wildlife trust. They raised funds and built a hide with disabled access for birdwatching and classes on sustainability, all surrounded by lovely woven willow sculptures

The local scrotes torched the lot within days

at times you just despair at the total mindlessness of it 😟


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:27 pm
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That’s quite an achievement to cause that amount of damage, I wonder if the occupants were hurt.. and how did they leave the scene…?

Trail of bloody says it didn't end well for someone.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:37 pm
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The local scrotes torched the lot within days

Barbaric.

I always assume scrotes wouldn't go out of their way for such activities, but it appears they do.


 
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In recent days, with all the snow we’ve had, I’ve been heartwarmed to see people out helping each other clear side streets of snow. It has made me think, ‘you know what, most people are fine, the world is basically ok’

then i see this kind of thing and I despair for humanity.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:53 pm
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, ‘you know what, most people are fine, the world is basically ok’

Still rings true.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 3:57 pm
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then i see this kind of thing and I despair for humanity.

Well try and weigh one against the other for a bit of balance. Don't despair.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 4:00 pm
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^ this. Trouble is - to stay in balance it mainly requires us all to stay in balance; as soon as one person starts to rock the boat they can tip it over so easily. 100, 1000, 1,000,000 people can use and enjoy that bridge; one * can * it over in 5 minutes flat.

I've said before and it's contentious, the trouble is that too often we're too scared to stop that one person - on a bus, in a sports crowd, racist comments in a pub...... and as a group we have to grow a pair and not let it go unchallenged.

I know the counter - they might punch you, they might have a knife, and of course use discretion, but simply walking away because it's a bit hard makes behaviour like this become more normal.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 4:12 pm
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Seen this on a few friends feeds today as I'm not too far away.

Not seen specifics why this is bring treated as deliberate vandalism - my immediate assumption was drunks in a stolen car, binned it on the ice, hit the bridge and then torched the car to hide who was driving?

Doesn't make it any better, but not sure why any of the scrotes up there would choose to trash the bridge


 
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I’ve said before and it’s contentious, the trouble is that too often we’re too scared to stop that one person – on a bus, in a sports crowd, racist comments in a pub…… and as a group we have to grow a pair and not let it go unchallenged.

I know the counter – they might punch you, they might have a knife, and of course use discretion, but simply walking away because it’s a bit hard makes behaviour like this become more normal.

Yes yes, I've been that person too on occasion and I agree. I was actually thinking about this today after admonishing 3 scrotes for playing soccer in a shop doorway. It got me thinking and it's not obvious why people don't act but it's logical - youths and general ****s don't get up to badness alone. There's usually at least two, and their company emboldens them. Also, a teenager or young adult doesn't consider the consequences of their actions the way an older person does and this makes them potentially more dangerous. This is probably part of why people get stabbed for intervening in trivial issues.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 4:37 pm
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Not seen specifics why this is bring treated as deliberate vandalism – my immediate assumption was drunks in a stolen car, binned it on the ice, hit the bridge and then torched the car to hide who was driving?

That's what I thought but the NT are saying deliberate. Beyond that...


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 4:42 pm
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I'd have said that too, then I noticed they had taken out individual sections of the bridge between supports. Definitely deliberate.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 6:10 pm
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Been there today, wife likes to walk around the lake but fenced off today, hope they can make a passage for pedestrians and cyclists soon though. There's no way it was an accident. There's a rough housing estate not far away and the police will likely have dealt with the culprits before. It was quite sad standing there and thinking about the total lack of respect for history and other people's enjoyment of a beautiful place. It's a shame they didn't end up trapped  upside down in the water.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 6:44 pm
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Disgruntled ex employee????


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 7:09 pm
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If there’s blood, there’s DNA..

Just sayin..


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 7:28 pm
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A lot of apparently random crime is a result of a turf war between rival gangs in a turf war of some sort. I think the police should have a close look at that English Heritage lot down at Rufford Abbey, rumour has it they've been itching for a tear up for years.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 7:31 pm
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Another local here.. The bridge is actually in an area that is behind locked gates after hours, so they must have found a way in either by breaking through a gate or a barrier.

National cycle route 6 goes over the bridge, so going round the lake is a 4 mile detour


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 7:41 pm
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Rode pass this afternoon, unbelievable amount of damage, can’t believe one car could do all that damage, hopefully the driver was injured whilst doing it


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 7:46 pm
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‘you know what, most people are fine, the world is basically ok’

Still rings true.

Hear this alot, if I had to bet I'd say most people go through life doing more harm than good. Depends on how you see the bigger picture I suppose.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 8:00 pm
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That’s shit.

I moved to Manchester from Belfast almost 4 years ago now. I actually felt relatively safe were I lived for 32 years of my life. And considering what Northern Ireland did to itself for nearly 4 decades, some people find that odd. I live in south Manchester now. It’s riddled with a serious amount of ASB. We had to phone the police 3 times in 2 days last week. Two on the same night, attempted burglary, youths trying to steal cars and a mental guy trying to get through our front door at 1am. This area has 999 calls every night about burglaries, ASB and violent abuse. Police can’t cope, people are scared. It’s a nice place, but filled with little shits. Why do they do it? Because they can, and it makes them look like heroes to their mates. Simple gang mentality. And if they get away with it, they’ll keep on doing it.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 8:22 pm
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local to me too, was up there on thursday in the snow

bridge has been rammed several times by the looks of it and the length of the damage, I doubt you could take that much out even if you binned it

they should hang em off the bridge


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 8:30 pm
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Not local, but that is just shit. I genuinely cannot understand why somebody would do that. Just put them in a cozy air tight cell, so they can have a little ‘think’ about the error of their ways.


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 10:01 pm
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only complete feral bellends could pull off a stunt of this sort


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 10:08 pm
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Well that was bloody depressing.

I came into this thread hoping to see a picture of a big old cock and balls that somebody had wheelspinned into the ice with some precision ken block-esque moves.


 
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Both sides!


 
Posted : 03/03/2018 11:56 pm
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While it’s my profound hope that the mindless little shits who did this suffered serious injury in the process, it’s equally depressing to think that if they did while causing this damage, the snivelling little bastards will expect to be treated by the NHS, and by extension the taxpayers who fund the NHS and who’ll pay for the repairs to the bridge.

I honestly believe that there’s an argument to be made for the reintroduction of the stocks, so that the perps can be the subject of public ridicule within their own community.

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Posted : 04/03/2018 12:11 am
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Another local here.. The bridge is actually in an area that is behind locked gates after hours, so they must have found a way in either by freaking through a gate or a barrier.

Girlfriend and I have had this debate. She seems to think they don't barrier in the main entrance where you pay. It's correct that there are permanent barriers everywhere else.


 
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Yep this came up on a feed yesterday, all very sad and some people just cant be reasoned with.

I seem to remember some thing similar at rufford abby some years ago where some went in at night and pushed some small statues of a roof.

The duathlon goes over that next sunday so it will be interesting to see how that is dealt with.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 7:17 am
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@rone - I think the main gate is locked after hours, but residents have a key code / swipe card to get in.

Although if they were determined to get in there are a few bits of undergrowth you could drive through that would allow you to get in


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 8:21 am
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@rone – I think the main gate is locked after hours, but residents have a key code / swipe card to get

This is still great debate here. GF thinks only Hardwick (where most people live) is gated with code lock and that is separate.

Certainly when we've been in after hours walking dog etc we've been able to drive straight in through the main bit.

You could still be correct though. A bit confused myself about the whole thing.

None of the staff seem to know much either.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 8:46 am
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Lime tree avenue is a public highway and doesn't get closed. Some of the other entrances got gated with key codes due to previous anti social behaviour years back.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 8:46 am
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Lime tree avenue is a public highway and doesn’t get closed. Some of the other entrances got gated with key codes due to previous anti social behaviour years back.

Yes.

What we can't figure out is the main entrance to the car park where you get stamped/pay doesn't have the same barrier system. It has gates and as far as i've seen they always seem to be open.

The only difference being it's manned mostly daylight hours. I commute between worksop and warsop through clumber and maybe the gates get shut much later on.

However it could be i haven't been through late enough.


 
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Do you know what upsets me more than vandalism?

The bitterly lazy and ignorant adults that are outraged and disgusted by it.

You've got to ask yourselves what's driven a kid to view the adult world around them with such hostility and contempt.

I honestly wonder who's in the right, morally speaking.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 11:08 am
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You’ve got to ask yourselves what’s driven a kid to view the adult world around them with such hostility and contempt.

Well, personally I blame the parents, and then the child. Sometimes there's no other reason than that they're obnoxious little c**ts who think they are above the law.


 
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I honestly believe that there’s an argument to be made for the reintroduction of the stocks, so that the perps can be the subject of public ridicule within their own community.

I'd through in chemical castration as well...


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 11:24 am
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What about physical castration for bad spelling? I'd back that proposal.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 12:08 pm
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Same bridge? Pretty sure this was Clumber.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 12:22 pm
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Who says it was a kid?

Generalising over adult responsibility can only go so far.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 12:36 pm
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Shame the car didn’t explode with them in it.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 3:56 pm
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I've walked my dog past it twice this weekend and still can't help but feel sick, I was talking to a fella who walks his dog there everyday and he seems to think it's £500,000's worth of damage.

Bring back the birch as my old dad would say.


 
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I’d through in chemical castration as well…

oops - I've had the snip though so castration wouldn't do anything to stop me breeding...


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 5:14 pm
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Well, now we're getting our country back and can make our own laws, all this stuff should stop.


 
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I was thinking similar things Yunki.

Also, why is it locked? Maybe if things weren't cordoned off, more of the population might feel they have a stake, rather than 'you lot are barely tolerated on the land we've bought so we're going to lock it and control access because it's OURS'. Or maybe it was an inside job... 'well, we'll have to annexe it off and lock it up full-time now just in case'


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 5:34 pm
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No one would miss the 5% (made up figure) who contribute nothing & ruin things for everyone else.

Hear, hear. Let's cull the upper classes.


 
Posted : 04/03/2018 5:44 pm
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OK,they got someone for it but I bet they don't end up paying for the repairs.


 
Posted : 24/03/2018 8:58 pm
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Also, why is it locked? Maybe if things weren’t cordoned off, more of the population might feel they have a stake, rather than ‘you lot are barely tolerated on the land we’ve bought so we’re going to lock it and control access because it’s OURS’.

Clumber has on foot/bike/'oss free entry 24/7.

It's only cars they really control. Car access is restricted in the evenings due to all manor of burnt out cars and dumping of gas canisters/tyres that appear in and around Worksop/Clumber.

The new price increase was very rude though.

I'm not the biggest fan of the NT but they are at least taking a stand against the Survey(government backed) that Ineos are trying to do on the land.

https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/business/fracking-firm-granted-permission-carry-1249368


 
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I wonder if whoever did this has a job, own house or is a worthless social housing (council estate in old money) dweller with their usual sense  of entitlement. This country could do with a cull. No one would miss the 5% (made up figure) who contribute nothing & ruin things for everyone else.

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The 1930's called, Hitler want's his copy of Mein Kampf back.


 
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The 1930’s called, Hitler want’s his copy of Mein Kampf back.

I would have thought that even old Adolf would have been better at spotting intentional sarcasm/irony.

Mind you, he could have that apostrophe for free...........................


 
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