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Does anyone honestly believe this reunion is about anything other than the money? It's obviously cynical, but then it always was.
It's not a dig at them - they've got the potential to earn huge money, so why not? It's not the '90s; the music industry has changed dramatically, and revenue streams have been the catalyst.
Is it worth the aggravation...
Is it worth the aggravation…
Very good.
Does anyone honestly believe this reunion is about anything other than the money?
so what if it is? Most of us work to earn money. It’s normal.
Completely. They’ve been honest about that from day 1 of their career as a band.
The criticism of them getting the most they can for a reunion that is (no doubt) predominantly about earning money just seems bizarre, frankly.
Anyhow, in all the noise about Oasis reforming, I'm yet to see which version of Oasis that will be onstage.
If it's Noel, Liam and their granny on bongos...it's Oasis.
Yeah, nah. Needs Bonehead at least.
Does anyone honestly believe this reunion is about anything other than the money?
A friend of mine is trying to get tickets.
"Got to the front of the queue, it pinged me back to the start. Went back in and it brought up VIP tickets - rear standing for £357 each."
I don't get this snobbery thing. I'm from an almost conically working class background and don't like Oasis. I find both brothers to be arrogant ****ers and the singers voice is like nails down a chalkboard to me. An horrendous nasal whine. It isn't snobbery, just different musical tastes and/or a dislike of a couple of arrogant ****ers. Both in my case.
I wasn't s fan but used to like oasis back in the nineties, until more recently working with a bloke who spoke so much shit about how great they were and also used to play guitar and sing oasis songs sometimes at break times, that I just hate them now.
Utter W*nkers
This is what I was shown after hours in the queue…
Does anyone honestly believe this reunion is about anything other than the money?
I’m not sure either of them need the money, do they?
I reckon the idea of standing in front of thousands of adoring fans singing your songs must be pretty addictive. Rock stars gonna rock? Plus everyone swooning over Chris Martin’s Glasto performances must be difficult to watch if you’re in Oasis.
the dynamic pricing thing is not on. I don’t mind paying for tickets but driving prices up after queuing for ages is a crap approach
does anyone know anyone who actually got tickets and paid standard price? I don’t.
Nope, from a quick review of 2 people . All morning wasted queuing online to get to the actual purchase screen. Then get a message along the lines of " the ticket you requested is no longer available but we have platinum standing tickets for £525" . No thanks.
Love to know what the actual average price paid was, by how many hundreds of thousands of people.
It really is shocking - queue for hours then finding out they are charging festival weekend ticket prices - but what do you do? It’s your only chance, you got through and you really want to see them…
I decided from the outset that I wasn’t going to try for tickets and I’m happy with that decision.
It's blatant exploitation of the sunk cost fallacy of people who've spent hours in the queue. There will be those who can't really afford those prices but who fall for it in the moment and hit the buy button.
Hopefully it's the final abuse that leads to greater regulation of the sector and Ticketmaster have cut their own throats here.
does anyone know anyone who actually got tickets and paid standard price? I don’t.
Yes, I know someone who got tickets for Edinburgh at the standard price.
The group I'm with all got tickets (16 in total) for Heaton park at standard price but that was in the pre-sale.
Who's actually at fault for the dynamic pricing thing? Everyone's bemoaning oasis for it, like it's directly Noel and Liam responsible, but surely it's actually Ticketmaster, or which ever promotions company is involved?
As above, money is undoubtedly a factor in the reunion, the sums are boggling, but whether you like them or not, both brothers now have successful solo careers and they must receive pretty handsome royalty cheques, especially from Absolute radio and Radio X ? so I doubt they actually need it!!
Better the cash going to the act than them selling tickets at under market value and the profits going to ticket touts. Too expensive? Don't buy them.
Chatting to women in local pet shop - she paid ~£350 per standing ticket for 3. Her daughter had been online from 8am and got them at 4pm ish.
I queued on Ticketmaster website from 07:00 & eventually got into just their website at about midday. I then had to enter a queue for the venue & date (Wembley 02/08) and found over 348,000 people in front of me.
My son used the ticket master app and got straight on and into whichever venue he wanted. I downloaded the app and found that I could do the same and leapfrogged myself by over 200,000.
I got the notification it was my turn to find two seats available at £305.50 with a notification that the price had been set based on demand. As I pressed book the website crashed. I had to reload the app, log back in and get to the back of the queue. Life’s too short so no thanks.
Who’s actually at fault for the dynamic pricing thing? Everyone’s bemoaning oasis for it, like it’s directly Noel and Liam responsible, but surely it’s actually Ticketmaster, or which ever promotions company is involved?
Acts have to agree to the dynamic pricing, or at least their management do. The Cures management agreed to it without their knowledge and then cracked up when they became aware of it. They can opt out
£300+ to see a couple of has-beens is absolutely ripping the piss. Of course the whole time mugs people are willing to pay, it will continue.
I was in the queue until I had to leave to go up the Albion. My wife kept the app open, and as we were leaving the ground at 5pm she called to say she could get 3 standing tickets at Manchester for £355 each.
As much as I'd liked to have gone, and as desperate as my daughter was to get tickets, that's insane.
The blame is 100% with the band, their management and promoter. They can easily turn the dynamic function off according to some guy from the umbrella ticket agency place.
Changed days. I saw the Stones at Glasgow Apollo in 1982. The gig wasn't announced until the week before. I was in my flat a mile away from the box office when they announced it on Radio Clyde. By the time I walked up the queue vwas so long the stalls were sold out. I ended up front balcony.
Tickets were £6.50.
I was wondering if my memory vwas playing tricks but no. Gigs not announced until the week before.
Changed days.
Absolutely – 'back in the day' you had to be invested to really find out about gigs. When I was a young teenager in the early 80s, I'd buy Kerrang, NME and Sounds (along with our local paper the Yorkshire Evening Post) and look through all the ads at the back to find out who were touring. Then I'd post a SAE along with a cheque requesting the tickets I wanted or, alternatively, get the train through to Leeds to go to Jumbo Records and purchase them directly.
does anyone know anyone who actually got tickets and paid standard price?
Me, I did. 2 for £10. Only thing is it was back when they were decent. Wouldn't even see em for a tenner for one ticket now !
This is about raising their profile before the rights to the songs revert solely to Noel. Then once streaming rates have increased and the tour over, he’ll be able to sell the catalogue for a huge sum that will dwarf the tour receipts (reportedly £50m to the artists). Queen sold their catalogue for £1bn. Oasis just need a little marketing prior to that sale, but won’t reach that sort of price. It’s a smart business move. I’m not really a fan, but they have a few good tunes that have stood the test of time.
Just spent £28 on a ticket to see Cardinal Black at Rock City.
Singer who can sing. Guitarist that's unbelievably talented, 1000x better, and as you'd dee from his Friday Fretworks YouTube channel most weeks on the last 7 years, intelligent, highly articulate, and absolutely and utterly not up his own arse,.unlike chavs from Manc.
a couple of has-beens
Have to take issue with these comments
I'm not a fan of the band, but they are still hugely popular as a band as has been shown by the demand.for tickets, and their solo work seems to be very popular. Liam can certainly still sell out a stadium tour nowadays on his own. Noel's high flying birds project seem to be very popular.
It's too easy for people to conflate music they don't like with stuff they think isn't/ shouldn't be popular.
I detest Ed Sheeran. I think his bland banal dirge is some of the worst music ever created, but I'll fully acknowledge his mass popularity.
I think ABBA are the worst popular group of all time. But I'll still admit I'm in the absolute minority with that view and recognise the cultural impact they have
If someone starts a thread next time ed Sheeran tours, will you jump on that to tell everyone how bland he is!? -wink emoji-
Just spent £28 on a ticket to see Cardinal Black at Rock City
I've been to other gigs as well -thumbs up emoji-
I know someone who got tickets for Edinburgh at the standard price.
I hope they haven't got seats in the West stand.
Some of the seats for sale in the West stand at Murrayfield are in line with or behind the stage?
It’s too easy for people to conflate music they don’t like with stuff they think isn’t/ shouldn’t be popular.
Don’t get me wrong, I actually do like their music. Saw them live BITD. They were massively relevant 30 years ago - they aren’t now. The nostalgia factor is huge, though. I’m not paying £300+ for that however 😉
Ticketmaster app was hopeless for me, either got an error message or the spinning wheel of doom, then it shat itself completely and asked me to use a laptop instead, which I couldnt do as I was at work. Not paying inflated resale prices either! (begrudge paying £150 tbh)
I reckon more dates will be added anyway
Best Oasis tribute band names.
https://musicandbands.co.uk/news/top-oasis-tribute-bands-for-hire
My favourites are:
- Oasish
- Definitely MightBe
Will be considerably cheaper to see, more likely to turn up and probably sound better too.
I thought this was just a rumour.
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/whats-on/music-nightlife-news/oasis-fans-fury-tickets-double-29844918
Seems like pure greed to me.
Rather boil my head in a bucket of piss.
My nephew got tickets for the first Cardiff gig, he said hotel rooms were about £400 a night per person and Air B&Bs were charging a grand a night, we've got a 5M bell tent so he'll be glamping for free in our garden.
Will be considerably cheaper to see, more likely to turn up and probably sound better too.
It's not the point though is it? It's also cheaper to just watch some footage on YouTube of when they were in their prime.
Someone up there said about some other band who can play the guitar better. I don't think anyone who attends any of these gigs will be there to critique the guitar playing, or really cares how Liam's voice is. It's about being there in that moment, being with your mates at what is, despite all the negativity on here, a culturally massive event, singing along in a huge crowd and having a good day out.
I mean, I don't go on the football threads bollocking on about how I'd rather poke my eyeballs out than watch a game, or how it's considerably cheaper to watch it on telly than actually go to the match, or why do people spend so much travelling the world to follow their team when they could just catch the best bits on match of the day.
I loved the first few years of Oasis, some great tunes and vids. The Whatever vid with the orchestra more or less defined cool at the time. Then they started having helicopters fly around and the message wasn't so upbeat. I lost interested but smiled everytime a Crédit Agricole advert with Whatever as it's theme tune came on in following years. Then junior got into guitar and his favourite band was Oasis, I found some Youtubes to help him learn the tunes and learned them myself while I was at it. Oasis tunes are a buskers best friend, DLBIA, Whatever, Maybe and Wonderwall work in every country I've played them.
The High Flying Birds work for me too, Noel downtunes or uptunes the guitare and gives the classics a slightly different feel, all good.
The ticket issue is disappointing but I hope the shows live up to the expectations of those of you who go. I won't be going but would chose Dublin if I did.
For those who missed or didn't understand the first time around try this, what's not to like?
Just listened to a great show on virgin radio, its not live for catch-up yet, but well worth a listen:
7:00 PM - 8:00 PM
Oasis Special with Stu Elmore
The worst kept rock n roll secret was revealed earlier this week when the Gallagher Brothers announced Oasis are reforming for a series of live dates next year. Stu Elmore, celebrates the long awaited reformation of one this country's greatest bands, with contributions from Liam and Noel along with the story of the making of Oasis debut album 'Definitely Maybe' - Produced and presented Pete Mitchell which was originally broadcast on Virgin Radio in 2019.
Great video. I remember listening to Oasis for the first time when I was 14 or 15 I think. Just fantastic timing for me and it shaped mine and mates lives.
My nephew got tickets for the first Cardiff gig, he said hotel rooms were about £400 a night per person and Air B&Bs were charging a grand a night, we’ve got a 5M bell tent so he’ll be glamping for free in our garden.
I've got a 3M tent for the Scotch gig...
From a Whatsapp chat I heard Edinburgh tickets were showing as available....at 00:45am this morning. Out of interest I checked, and it offered me a single seated ticket priced at around £480, located in the upper tiers. Obviously not mad enough to buy that so can't verify if it was really available. Given the turmoil Ticketmaster's systems had been through prior, there's a chance it was.....
I once witnessed a friend managing to buy Glastonbury tickets around 30 mins after they had supposedly sold out, as in after the press release had gone out announcing all sold.
I honestly think the majority of people have bought tickets because of FOMO.
The marketing guys have done an amazing job. Never gave anyone a chance to really think about it.
I’ve got a 3M tent for the Scotch gig…
subtle 🙂
Turn that around dyna . . . Noel to Liam ‘I can’t believe how much these mugs are willing to pay’, Liam to Noel ‘ker-f@@ken-ching bro’
(emoji big of a bag of money)
I hope they are happy ripping off there fans, avoid resellers but dynamic pricing is alright. Lets only release a few dates make everyone go crazy and pay over the price.
Its an absolute disgrace that ticket prices self adjust to rip people off.
As for OASIS, I saw them in 1998 at the Reebok Stadium and was not impressed.
Its an absolute disgrace that ticket prices self adjust to rip people off.
one of the justifications I saw was that it discourages touts by equalising the price with tickets on the resale market. I mean, that may be true, but how exactly does that help the consumer?!
And people are lapping it up. It's like the plot of a South Park episode!!
one of the justifications I saw was that it discourages touts by equalising the price with tickets on the resale market. I mean, that may be true, but how exactly does that help the consumer?!
It doesn't - the ticket companies and artists have realised how much people are prepared to spend and will fleece them for every penny.
Silverstone now do the same for the British GP and general weekend tickets were £500+ this year.
The only thing that will stop it is if people stop buying.
£500 for a ticket to see a sea of phones held up in front of you as everyone films them playing Wonderwall.
I just cant get over how much tickets cost for these type of gigs.
This is an outlier, but 'big' gigs have been shooting up in price of late. I saw Simple Minds last year, IIRC that was £70/head which I felt was on the upper end of what I was willing to pay.
By way of comparison, £300 will net you a five day camping pass for three full days' Download festival.
I saw Simple Minds last year, IIRC that was £70/head which I felt was on the upper end of what I was willing to pay.
Yeah, Kiss toured last year (maybe it was the year before, time flies) and tickets were around £120. Not a chance I am going to pay that sort of money – I'd have been okay with £70-ish, just like other bands such as Iron Maiden were charging at the same time. But Gene Simmons is possibly the greediest man in music.
I’ve got a 3M tent for the Scotch gig…
Home taping is killing music.
the ticket companies and artists have realised how much people are prepared to spend and will fleece them for every penny.
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The only thing that will stop it is if people stop buying.
I wonder idly whether online booking has made it too easy, especially for scalpers. When I was younger, if you wanted a gig ticket you nipped out to the venue's box office in your lunch break. There were no queues because you had weeks in which to buy them, and it was impossible for flippers to go "I'll have five thousand tickets please." Because that's the reason why you are at position 32,767 in the queue three seconds after sale opens, half of them are a bot farm.
This is an outlier, but ‘big’ gigs have been shooting up in price of late. I saw Simple Minds last year, IIRC that was £70/head which I felt was on the upper end of what I was willing to pay.
I saw them for free when I was on holiday at Le Mans 24 this year 🙂
Glastonbury gets a bad rep for it's ticket cost - but last year I paid £350, got 5 days camping, & saw, QOTSA, Foo Fighters, Arctic Monkeys, GnR, Alt J, Loyle Carner, Leftfield, The Pretender's, Raye, The Hives, Texas, Warpaint, Editors (the most unexpectedly brilliant live band), Fatboy Slim & more.
Ugh they just had some knob on the radio justifying the surge pricing, saying it discourages ticket touts as the tickets find their market price... **** off you just want a bigger piece of the pie.
Glastonbury gets a bad rep for it’s ticket cost – but last year I paid £350
Yeah, I paid £365 this year and I think it is very good value – not only for the bands, but for the whole experience. And I like that on-site food and drink isn't massively overpriced like in many big arenas.
Free Market Economics.
Supply and Demand.
If people think it's worth it, they will pay it.
What was that stupid energy drink that was selling for an absolute fortune last year?
I don't get it when people complain about holiday prices during the school holiday periods. Of course they will cost more.
festivals are cheap because the audience is generally skint under-25 year olds who don't have the money to pay for more.
bands with middle-aged fans have always been expensive, because your audiecne is rich(er) folk who want a nice sit down and a reminisce.
you could pay £300+ to watch a video of abba playing ffs
just go and watch Katy J Pearson tour her new album in Nov/Dec you fools
What was that stupid energy drink that was selling for an absolute fortune last year?
Prime - and it's less than a quid in most corner shops now.
Such a fuss... if you like Oasis live, Liam was pretty much delivering that all the time... if you wanted to see "what happens next" Noel's solo stuff moved on in interesting directions... a reunion gig doesn't offer that much. Is it all about sharing the fun and love in the crowds that it'll draw in?
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Free Market Economics.Supply and Demand.
If people think it’s worth it, they will pay it.
Indeed, and everybody knew about that demand in advance of ticket sales. So why should someone with a slower internet connection (therefore ending up further back in the queue) end up paying significantly more than someone with a faster one? Because Oasis/Ticketmaster have acted like *****s.
festivals are cheap because the audience is generally skint under-25 year olds who don’t have the money to pay for more.
You've never been to Glastonbury have you?
Free Market Economics.
Supply and Demand.
How about as a percentage of your monthly pay, say 25% in this case?
Home taping is killing music.
[applause emoji]
festivals are cheap because the audience is generally skint under-25 year olds who don’t have the money to pay for more.
Tell me you've not been to a festival, without telling me you've not been to a festival.
You’ve never been to Glastonbury have you?
Tell me you’ve not been to a festival, without telling me you’ve not been to a festival.
I went to reading 10 years on the trot, glasto twice, download 4 times, rock am ring 3 times and a few others. I haven't been to an old person festival, sure, but in my experience the majority of crowds at the UKs biggest festivals (which are also the cheap ones) is young. I haven't been to glastonbury in over a decade - maybe the crowd has aged?
edit: looks like the bands have, based on this article - https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/jun/24/cream-teas-rocknroll-older-revellers-glastonbury - perhaps its same for the crowd
but in my experience the majority of crowds at the UKs biggest festivals (which are also the cheap ones) is young.
In my experience this is not the case at all – at Glastonbury there is always a very wide range of age groups and diversity. This year we were camping next to a couple in their early 60s, I got chatting to a couple from Barnsley who were even older (I was disappointed they hadn't gone to see Barnsley's own 'Bar Steward Sons of Val Doonican'), I spent most of Friday afternoon at the front of the Pyramid stage chatting to a bloke of my age who was there with his wife. I am 57 and went with my 59 year old brother.
I know that Reading > Leeds can have a younger audience (because it has become a 'rite of passage' for kids completing their GCSEs) but I watched some on iPlayer and there was still a wide mix of ages of people.
And if you think 'skint under-25s' can afford a weekend festival ticket + travel, food and drink, then I think your idea of what a 'skint under-25' is, is way out of whack.
I don’t get it when people complain about holiday prices during the school holiday periods. Of course they will cost more.
This is also just as wrong - the fact it's cheaper for parents to pay the fines than the inflated costs proves it. The price should be the price. **** capitalism.
This is also just as wrong – the fact it’s cheaper for parents to pay the fines than the inflated costs proves it.
That tells me the fines aren't high enough.
Changed days. I saw the Stones at Glasgow Apollo in 1982. The gig wasn’t announced until the week before. I was in my flat a mile away from the box office when they announced it on Radio Clyde. By the time I walked up the queue vwas so long the stalls were sold out. I ended up front balcony.
Tickets were £6.50.
Do you remember how much you were earning per day? I started work as Xmas Saturday staff in 1984 and was earning under a tenner per day, iirc. If I’m right, your Stones ticket works out at about 6 hours work - NLW is now about £11 per hour, so roughly £60-70 by today’s standard. You won’t see the Stones these days for that price but you’ll see an awful lot of well known bands for much, much less. Gigs aren’t expensive these days, but some, like Oasis or Taylor Swift are.
Home taping etc.
Pipped - now I have to pay treble for being too late to the joke.