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It’s all fun and games until the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation fails. We can warm ourselves with fond memories of pedantry about the Gulf Stream in more innocent times.
LOLz
too true.
It's ok,we are in an El Nino year just now, it will all be back to normal in 2025 with flood, fire, famine and pestilence.
The Global Cooling from the 1940s to the 1970s was also caused by burning fossil fuels.
During that time, mostly coal, lignite and peat were burnt, which release large amounts of sulphur dioxide and other particles generally called aerosols. These reflect or absorb (depending on the aerosol / particles) sunlight before it reaches the Earth, causing a cooling or “dimming” effect.
Those fuels also released CO2 and caused warming, but the sulphur dioxide had a greater effect in the other direction and caused the world, and especially the northern hemisphere where the vast majority of these fuels were being burnt, to cool.
In the 1980s there was a switch to burning gas as the primary fossil fuel. This is much cleaner and doesn’t release sulphur dioxide, while still releasing CO2, so it causes all warming and no cooling.
That's very interesting @nerd, i've not heard that before. I was always under the impression that the lag effect of emissions meant that the impacts were considerably delayed.
Anyway we've had a wetter and warmer than average autumn and approaching midwinter it's business as usual.

This!:
It’s all fun and games until the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation fails. We can warm ourselves with fond memories of pedantry about the Gulf Stream in more innocent times.
If anyone wants to understand the AMOC risk:
He was interviewed when that paper came out and his analogy for what it would be like was something along the lines of "agriculture in the UK would become like trying to grow potatoes in Spitzbergen".
Or more realistically Banks Island in British Columbia which is a similar latitude to the UK but on the Pacific East coast and doesn't benefit from a warm current.
If someone who has never ridden a bike came on here and started telling us all wrong stuff about MTBing would you listen, or would you say they didn’t know what they were talking about?
Isn't that like, ~50% of the posts in the Bike Forum?
have been seriously underwhelmed by Flaming June 🙄I’m starting to consider getting my jeans and riding trousers back out of the cupboard
Honestly, I'm almost jealous.
Currently in southern Tuscany, not even half way up Monte Amiata at 700m asl, and I've been sweating all day long. Just had a luke warm shower to cool down and I'm sweating again.
Was 29°C on Saturday and Sunday, but we were up top at 1700m in the bike park in a t-shirt, yet there were still some locals hiking in bloody long trousers and puffer jackets!
I tend to call it summer after mid June, so it seems pretty normal weather for Spring👍
I've noted that one really important factor is absent form this thread. The effects of the disappearance of the Arctic sea ice. In terms of the weather we've been experiencing over the last few years it's no doubt having a greater impact than the slowing of the Atlantic conveyor.
The lack of sea ice exacerbates ocean warming as the dark ocean absorbs more energy than ice and air passes over water rather than ice increasing humidity. The jet stream is affected too. More extreme weather events are the result.
very pleasant evening ride, apart from being overgrown twas very good temp for riding and 99% dry.
If this was Germany or Finland they would have a word for “The mounting sense of panic caused by the fact that we’re already into Summer and not once has it been warm enough to eat outside or have a bar-b-que” Or “It’s June and I’ve had to put the heating on again”
Perhaps, but there’s little guarantee that the word they come up with will have fewer characters than this thread.
Sommerbratensuchtigangst oder so Was.
It depends where you live
We've had 2 BBQs already and we live on a windy hill in West Yorkshire
Or “It’s June and I’ve had to put the heating on again”
Mine came on last week all on its own! I’d had windows open during the day and my Hive decided it wasn’t toasty enough. Well, it had dropped down to about 8-9°…
Yeah but it’s easy to spot the Brits when it’s chilly at the local beach because they’re the ones in T-shirts, even the Germans have long sleves and the locals are in puffer jackets or hoodies with the hood up.
To be fair, they’re probably from Newcastle… 😏
Around here, it can be high 70’s and there’s lads wandering around in a puffer with the hood up! Meanwhile I’ve been wearing shorts for two years apart from a particularly brisk week back in December.
Big fleece out of the cupboard
Thermal leggins are back on and I've even been wearing some gloves!