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Decided i am not going to sit and be cold. If it costs more then it costs more and sitting in the cold does your health no good at all.
Last evening was the first night I switched on the central heating for this first time to boost the temperature up to 17c. My room temperature was down to 14c and bedroom down to 10c so I decided it was a bit cold to sit around working until late evening.
Now, the temperature has dropped to 14c (22:40hr) again so I shall see how I how long will I last before I switch on the central heating. Normally, I don't switch the heating until December but due to the sudden dropped in temperature I have to break my rules.
LOL! It's freezing! Feel like being tortured in icebox.
p/s: If I switch on the central heating for 1.15 mins it will increase by 3c from 14c to 17c after that it will struggle a bit.
chewkw - suggest you find and read article by James Gallagher on BBC website about how low temperatures indoors affect physical performance and cognitive ability.
It was written after he went through a lab test so everything was accurately measured.
At 10 - 14C, you aren't doing yourself any favours; recommended minimum is 18C.
Had the wood burner lit for several hours today. Room temp was down to 9°c, raised it to a toasty 15°c at waist height. Had the ceiling fan running to mix the air evenly.
Electric blanket for night time. Fan heater for short burst room heating, infrared panel heater for medium length sitting around watching TV.
Sub 5°c outside and I might consider the gas central heating. Maybe later in the week?
chewkw – suggest you find and read article by James Gallagher on BBC website about how low temperatures indoors affect physical performance and cognitive ability.
It was written after he went through a lab test so everything was accurately measured.
At 10 – 14C, you aren’t doing yourself any favours; recommended minimum is 18C.
That's a good information. Thanks. Will check the information out.
Yes, sitting in the room at 14c feels rather weird tbh.
Switched on the heater just now to 17c again. Took a hot shower and wear jumpers etc to maintain warm.
It's going to be a freezing winter.
I'm running it at a toasty 22c.
Had to switch the heating on yesterday, the heat from cooking just didn't cut it anymore. The trouble is that I've got storage heaters on Economy 7 so it heats the house overnight meaning I'm hot in the morning and it's cool in the afternoon, makes choosing a setting really hard to as there's a 24hr delay. Cheap to run but very annoying.
Ours has been coming on in the mornings for a week or so as the house has been below 14. The thermostat is set at 17, which seems to be okay for setting the house for a sunny day, but on a dull day, it’s still cold in the afternoon for WFH.
No thermostat here so have timer set for 2 hours in the morning, then put on manually in the late afternoon/evening depending. Also seems my really old TRVs are not working properly. If you set to low settings,for example, there is no heat to rads at all. So, I can either have the rads off or at full whack. As it's coming into coldest part of the year, is it worth getting quotes to replace them all now, or wait?? Anyone else had the same dilemma?(This is not a DIY job for me.)
Is that not how TRVs work? they turn the rads off according to the temperature setting you set them to?
Second month with heating on using Tado thermostats. Last year's consumption was 95kWh/day in November, this year we're averaging 35/day. Of course weather has been warmer this year, so not a fair comparison, but the greatest consumption in one day has been 55kWh, so I reckon we're on the right track. Boiler flow temp also turned down, but will need to wait for colder weather to see if it is high enough.
Is that not how TRVs work?
That's what I thought @tjagain, however, there is literally a point where they are fully off, or fully on. I thought if it was set at, let's say 2, there would still be some heat to that rad as required by the valve so you had some control. There appears to be no temp control at all using the 1 - 6 scale. It's either on - full heat or off - no heat at all. As an example, the radiator feels no different in one bedroom regardless of whether the TRV is set at 3 or 6. Turn it just below the 3 mark and the rad is cold and gets no heat at all.
What you describe is a valve.
A thermostatic valve in your case at 3 and not heating simply means at your setting of 3 the room temperature keeps the rad shut off.
If the room dips below that temperature the valve opens and rad gets hot.
Thats how they work - the number on the dial is the level at which it turns on and off.
The higher the number the higher the temp at which the TRV turns the rad off
Yes if you set it to 3 and the room is at the temperature that corresponds to 4 then it'll be off, and the rad will be cold. But if the room is at 2 then it'll come on and the rad will be hot.
I put my trv to the frost setting in the spare room but it's just full on unless I turn off completely. The room was toasty so it seems to me it's not working and is either full on or full off same as Fazzini's problem there is no sensitivity with it turning on and off depending on room temp. Also the trv in my bedroom is permanently on even in the off position. Any ideas on a DIY fix?
They can fail, one of ours has. You can replace the control part of it which is a simple DIY fix apparently. Never done it though. And none of the ones in B&Q look like mine.
Most are pretty crude. Material that expands/contracts with temperature, that presses on a sprung valve that controls flow to the radiator.
Valves can stick open or closed, if they aren’t fitted well the thermostatic part won’t move the valve. Etc etc.
Usually pretty easy to remove the trv heads and check if the piston actuating the valve is stuck or not - I've resurrected some old ones previously.
I cracked and put it on Tuesday when the inside temp hit 12C at midday.
On the upside, 16-17C now feels pretty toasty as we're in the good habit of getting up and putting jumpers on.
That’s what I thought @tjagain, however, there is literally a point where they are fully off, or fully on. I thought if it was set at, let’s say 2, there would still be some heat to that rad as required by the valve so you had some control. There appears to be no temp control at all using the 1 – 6 scale. It’s either on – full heat or off – no heat at all. As an example, the radiator feels no different in one bedroom regardless of whether the TRV is set at 3 or 6. Turn it just below the 3 mark and the rad is cold and gets no heat at all.
Yup, that's how they're supposed to work, they're not generally intended to be modulating valves. That would require some clever tinkering and setting them up, whereas what you have is a little bimetalic spring and a preload adjuster.
It would also be noisy trying to let a small amount of water flow through the valve.
Switched on the heater just now to 17c again. Took a hot shower and wear jumpers etc to maintain warm.
Don't you take 30 minute showers? Cut them in half and run the heating.
Still not on but cheating by running a wood burner in the lounge for 4 hrs or so each evening. Looking into putting 2 pc fans in the connecting walls to even the heat flow, there's a hell of a diffence im room temperature that makes the rest of the flat feel really cold.
Gotta be quiet and low voltage so will scour RS this afternoon
Confused by the suggestion a wood burner isn't heating.
Anyhow, had ours on for 3 weeks now since the Wiser system was installed. Enjoying the graphs, last couple of days showing highest usage so far.
Oooh graphs. Sounds like that could be as useful as the ability to turn rooms down.
Don't forget turning rooms up.
That would require some clever tinkering and setting them up, whereas what you have is a little bimetalic spring and a preload adjuster.
I thought they contained a wax cartridge that does the expanding and contracting? They do modulate to some extent as it changes gradually. Turning the adjuster moves things up and down so it has more or less distance to move to press the pin the same amount.
It would also be noisy trying to let a small amount of water flow through the valve.
This is often the case; they whistle as they start turning off.
Got both woodburner and heating going (albeit at a reduced boiler temp) and I've used about a year's worth of wood so far already. Current gas and elec usage is tracking at about £10 per day for both.
Octopus want to put our monthly payment up to £480. A few years ago I remember paying about £40/month. I’m going to phone them and tell them no, because that’s unaffordable. It’s finally made the wife, who is renowned for not listening and always being right, realise it’s quite a problem.
So need to get more insulation in the loft. Plan is to go with whatever foam board I get on top of the existing boards and reboard over that. Then a load of regular fluff stuff round the sides to bulk that out. Question is how thin is too thin for the new boards? Considering they will be flat on the foam board would 9mm be ok? Thinking of the weight for both me hulking it around and also the added weight the roof needs to support. 18mm in whatever wood based material you go for is chuffing heavy!
Octopus want to put our monthly payment up to £480.
Pardon, what, eh!!
Bulb put ours up to £190 earlier this year but then we gradually got into loads of credit so I knocked it down to £145. Got the bill today to say we've used £109 worth of energy over the last month (that's gas & electric). Then we got the winter payment so we're still in far too much credit. At least we'll stay warm.
3 bed detached, 12 radiators.
I generally leave my thermostat at 16c, I'll boost it up to 19c for a few hours here and there.
Allegedly my living room is 16.5c at the moment, so the boiler is dormant and I feel plenty warm enough. But I am wearing slippers, merino long-johns under my trakky bottoms, and a fleece top with a regualr cotton t-shrt underneath.
Outside is 8c, inside is 12c, I've got twins in nursey 3.5 days a week so mine won't be going on unless they're here this winter, I'd not noticed it until this week but it's got chilly.
I'm usually up and out in the morning, in the office all day then straight to gym after work so I'm not usually in till gone 8, and by that time after warm food and a tea it hardly seems worth having it on during the week, but...
Any recommendations for relatively inexpensive (<£50) quilted blankets etc. for sofa use?
Am a bit weary of the house feeling damp if it's not heated for extended periods but a couple of windows (bedroom being one) are left on the latch most days.
I have next week off so part of that will be making the house a bit warmer where I can but there's already 300mm insulation in the loft and the easy stuff done.
The trouble is that I’ve got storage heaters on Economy 7 so it heats the house overnight meaning I’m hot in the morning and it’s cool in the afternoon
I had this in one place. The heat just leaked out. If I had them now I'd be considering some kind of blanket or insulation to try and keep more heat in until I needed it.
I thought they contained a wax cartridge that does the expanding and contracting? They do modulate to some extent as it changes gradually. Turning the adjuster moves things up and down so it has more or less distance to move to press the pin the same amount.
I though they worked on a spring, but either way they're not intended to modulate, the system wouldn't respond correctly anyway as you'd have proportional control which tends to never quite reach the set point so it would take ages to actually warm the room up. Whereas what you want is the room to warm up quickly, then it all stays fairly constant as the rate you can add (or lose) heat is relatively small.
It's not like the burner on a boiler where modulating a valve has an immediate impact on the boiler temperature.
Had to switch the heating on yesterday, the heat from cooking just didn’t cut it anymore. The trouble is that I’ve got storage heaters on Economy 7 so it heats the house overnight meaning I’m hot in the morning and it’s cool in the afternoon, makes choosing a setting really hard to as there’s a 24hr delay. Cheap to run but very annoying.
Check the settings, most old radiators have an input (which sets the temp of the bricks), and an output (which lets the air flow over them.
You need to have the output dial closed all the time. This lets a small amount of heat leak out of the radiator all day but it stays warm-ish. Then you open the output in the evening to let the last of the heat out if needed.
Also, see if you can get an economy 5+1 tariff or similar. Same idea as economy 7, but you get an extra hour in the afternoon to warm up the storage heaters, water cylinder etc.
You need to have the output dial closed all the time. This lets a small amount of heat leak out of the radiator all day but it stays warm-ish. Then you open the output in the evening to let the last of the heat out if needed.
That's what I had - the output dial operated a flap (mechanically!) that let air flow through. But yeah by 11.30pm there was nothing left, it'd all leaked out.
Octopus want to put our monthly payment up to £480.
Same here. Though in fairness it's a suggestion and no attempt to actually do it yet. It's also based on a lot of assumptions from last winter that may not be the same this, though I do like their new forecast tool that shows how they came to it.........I just hope it's not correct!!
It's working well for me today. The bloody boiler has gone on the Fritz!
For anyone tinkering with water temps in the house make sure the hot tank temp is set below the boiler temp. Otherwise when you have the water come on it runs for the whole period set rather than using the tank stat to turn it off.
Edit: please don't ask how I know!
I had closed my bedroom window but opened it again last night as I was too warm. No heating yet.
Do the people in 12C houses just never wash their clothes? Ours take days to dry even with the heating on given it's rained too much to ever refresh the air in the house. I put the duvet cover outside in the sun all day yesterday and it had barely dried at all.
The conservatory still gets warm if there's any sunshine so thats great for drying clothes. Usuall give them 24h in there and they'll be ironing dry in all but Dec/Jan/Feb. Then just bring them into the house to dry the last bit.
Does mean being organised as doing 2+ loads in a day makes it too humid so nothing dries.
Do the people in 12C houses just never wash their clothes? Ours take days to dry even with the heating on given it’s rained too much to ever refresh the air in the house. I put the duvet cover outside in the sun all day yesterday and it had barely dried at all.
I tend to hang it out, but it does need to be out all day, and some stuff like jeans need to be finished off inside, but I'm wary of doing stuff indide due to the additional humitdity, but if its been hung outside litteraly all day, most of the moisture has gone.
Bear in mind if its cold out, clothes can still feel damp even when they are not really, due to the low air temps.
13 degrees in the living room. Can't justify CH for one person as the rest of the Fazzini mob are away. Oil rad it is then. 😬
Do the people in 12C houses just never wash their clothes?
I use a tumble dryer. Costs about 75p a week. Cycling clothes get a fast spin and then hung over an airer. They seem to dry just fine
Today (Saturday) in the mountain city where I live is max 25c, min 16c.
Wednesday is forecasting for max 4c min -2c.
Government news says to watch out for a shock 10-12c drop. But this is an 18c drop!!!!!! They know it is, but probably aren't allowed to give bad news.
My patio doors to my balcony don't latch as they're the wrong size for the wall opening. They rattle in the wind. How the owner (I'm a tenant) accepted this from the builders I do not know. I might as well be living in a council garage (with better lighting!)
Electric blanket goes on the bed and all the hot water bottles to be found asap. Both my portable oil radiators are out and tested working. My winter suitcase came down but it disappointed me, even if the dog sat on my clothes and gave me a plaintive look. Even he knows what's coming!
The locals are saying that, after a freaky couple of hot summers, we are now going to get at least one painful winter.
what was a nah not until november, has become a **** it, it's nearly december, even in an 80/90's detached, even after a night shift, without the heating on to take the edge off, i was waking up cold in the day which is ****ing miserable when you need to go back to work,
Gas central heating hasn't been used yet. Other forms of heating have been used including chocolate biscuits and tea.
15 degrees currently in the lounge. Feels fine. When it gets colder I'll wear more layers.
Heating is unlikely to be used. It wasn't last year bar a few weeks in November before I got the bill.
Plus the rebate will pay for 2/3's of my yearly leccy bill. Cheers Liz!
Just lit my fire (my only heating) for the second time this winter. It is quite cold here now though, first proper frost.
Was 12 deg inside when I came in, around freezing outside. 14deg after only two logs.
1880s flat, Scottish Borders.
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My wood is free so not finances holding me back, genuinely not felt the need, apart from a couple nights where I was tempted but too much faff half an hour before bedtime, and bed is cosy, 13.5tog down duvet, just sleeping kn a t shirt. The flats below and both sides insulate me, my loft is very well insulated. Windows are a bit drafty but I've got some new seals ready to fit.
Not so sure this is relevant to this thread, but when I bought my first house and was paying the mortgage on my own in Aberystyth 10 years ago, I never once put the heating on. The house got as low as 6c inside in winter at one point. Sleeping with a hat and gloves on. I saved money on heating and electricy bills (to spend on bikes), but it was absolutely f'ing miserable. I still have the bikes though.
Can we split this thread into the people who genuinely can’t afford to run the heating this year (for whom I have unlimited sympathy) and the masochists?
If ventilation is poor in the house (ie it’s not a leaky old building) and you’re not running a dehumidifier I think you’ll end up regretting it when you’re bleaching the mould off the walls and ceiling in three months.
Interesting point about damp^.
We've been using our heating as little as possible and the house is starting to rot! 🙁
Just some numbers for comparisons
3 bed house (late 90's, well insulated), 4 adults (4 cats). There is someone WFH 4 of the 5 days (we alternate).
Electric Consumption, on average last 3 months around 12KWh a day (2 gaming PC's on for 6 hours a day which use about 4 KWh between them - yes a third of my bill). That's slightly increased this month to 16KWh a day - additional drying clothes with dehumidifier, lighting and some heat for the conservatory (where I work). Bill for electric has been £130pm, but will rise to £160 for November, or just over £5 a day.
Gas consumption was very low over the summer (gas hob), September £40, October (new Prices £60 at 570 KWh for month) - so around 20 KWh a day in October. We've had the heating on, and last couple of weeks it's been on during the day as we're all been ill (Covid) - that's increased to 36 KWh or £3.80 a day (estimated just over £100 for November)
Combined £260. That will probably climb to £300pm Dec to Feb. My DD's £320pm and we're about £700 in credit.
September's combined bill was £180 but that was the older rates.
Our useage is 'opposite' to the 'average' Gas is LOW but electricity is HIGH based on the Energy Trust figures.
Interesting Fossy ta assume you posted here from my closed thread 🙂 I will check consumption in KWh
Led's throughout but two big tvs and kids laptops / phones etc. Plus tumble on every other day etc. Living life as normal ish for the time being but Nov has been fairly mild so far
Lots of things I can and should do like turning off things at the plug, replacing blown double glazing (prob will have the biggest impact for sure)
My original other post below for ref:
So I know there are so so many variables but would like to see if I can benchmark my November gas / elec usage against others with similar ish variable (if that is at all possible!) to see if its on the low / normal / high side before I go throwing money at improving things for marginal gains
3 bed terrace, 2 kids, 2 cats
Standard 1978 ex council build – brick downstairs (cavity), cladding upstairs, crap double glazed windows (probably all blown)
15kW greenstar condension boiler set to flow of 70 (return about 65 deg C so not condensing right now but any Lower House feels cold)
Heating on 21 deg. TRV set to 3 in each bedroom (downstairs apart from living room set to 2)
Bill for 34 days (end Oct to end Nov)
Elec £86
Gas £132
Works out at £6.50 ish per day
Heating on from 5.30am to 7.30am then on again at 3pm to about 9.30pm (water heats same time… Old gravity fed system)
So does that seem alot / to be expected or low?
Hard to compare previous years usage as change of supplier means all historic data lost
We were looking at about £120/mo for gas with the heating on 18-ish all day. I've now knocked it down to 16 during the day. With my boiler flow turned down that was taking some time to heat back up again, several hours, so it was somewhat pointless. But it seems to be working better with a slightly higher flow temp. I need the pump on low to get a temperature differential of about 18C across the boiler, which is good because it's nearly silent on low. Nearly 15 years of living here and listening to the pump rumble away, and it was actually worse for the heating anyway!
The other downside is that the hallway where the stat is is warming up before the living room has had a chance to do so. I had originally thought it would be worth fitting smart TRVs to the living room but now I'm not so sure. Because my pump isn't smart enough to alter its flow and my boiler cannot modulate much, if I were to turn off some of the rooms I'd run the risk of making the boiler less efficient and losing any saving.
Can we split this thread into the people who genuinely can’t afford to run the heating this year (for whom I have unlimited sympathy) and the masochists?
If ventilation is poor in the house (ie it’s not a leaky old building) and you’re not running a dehumidifier I think you’ll end up regretting it when you’re bleaching the mould off the walls and ceiling in three months.
Valid point. Our utility room is currently being renovated. No heating but nigh on airtight. It gets down to just under 15c in there over night and when I was doing some insulation taping and other gap filling/sealing the humidity was skyrocketing and I could see moisture forming on the coldest parts of the room. Had the dehumidifier on in there every night just in case at the moment. We've got extracts in all wet rooms as well as fresh air vents in all other rooms so humidity in the rest of the house is ok + keeping the heating on less and not letting it drop below 17 in the hallway (currently needs to be on around 20-45 mins a day if low temps outside).
I dread to think of the state of some homes if low temps internally and a reasonably high humidity.
15kW greenstar condension boiler set to flow of 70 (return about 65 deg C so not condensing
That's a 5C drop across the boiler, it should be about 20C. Two possibilities:
- The flow is too high - try turning your pump down. This has helped us a lot
- The automatic bypass valve is set at too low a pressure or is faulty. This is there to protect the boiler if all the radiators are off, but at least in our house the central ones don't have TRVs. If it opens when it shouldn't then hot water goes straight back to the boiler and prevents condensing.
If your downstairs stays cold and the upstairs is hot, then your radiators need balancing.
My boiler is set to give about a 65C output, which means the rads are at 60C at the top (about 50-52C at the bottom, the bigger ones at least) and this is enough to produce plenty of heat.
Because I'm a bit of a geek I bought a cheap thermocouple thermometer with two probes from Amazon, and taped the ends to two clamps so the tips poked out of the tape. I then clamped them onto the boiler's flow and return pipe and left it in-situ so I can check the temps any time I want. I also already had an IR thermometer that I can use for checking rad temps and it's also handy for finding cold spots around windows/doors etc, but it was also fairly cheap.
You could check the temperature on whichever radiator valve is the exit. That should be similar to the boiler return temperature on most of your rads. If it's not, then the bypass valve is open. If it is, then there's not enough temperature drop across the rads and the flow is too fast - I think. Get yourself on heatgeek.com.
Looks like we're on course to spend about £100/mo in the winter months on gas.
Came into the office today for the first time since the autumn and my god I'm melting. After not having the heating on at home I'm used to an ambient temperature of around 16deg so 21-22deg in our office feels like I'm sitting in my mum's house where she always had the heating cranked up to 27.
Molgrips... Cheers yeah slight correction, flow is 78 return 65. So only 13 degree delta. Bit of a geek like you and have stuck k-types on my pipework and have spent an embarrassingly large ammount of time (with much amusement from my family) playing about with flow speeds and balancing rads
I don't have a bypass valve in my system - just a towel rail which can't be fully shut off
I can get the 20 deg delta (and get return to run below 55 deg C where boiler is most efficient with pump speed on low... But issue is I have a mix of stupid microbore and 15mm so even with balancing carefully, on low the heating in living room (with long run of microbore) does not get flow until the trv's kick in (or should I say kick off) in the bedrooms. Also when the diverter kicks in and HW demand adds in then just not enough oomph on low.
All fun... Its an old system and ideally needs to be ripped out and redone
After not having the heating on at home I’m used to an ambient temperature of around 16deg so 21-22deg in our office feels like I’m sitting in my mum’s house where she always had the heating cranked up to 27.
Having not had the heating on... we're now having it on with the thermostat set at 18deg for 30mins each end of the day to dry clothes and the house and to stop us freezing... and that feels super hot! Can't believe we were setting it at 21deg two winters ago... all evening... that seems mad now. Going to adjust it down to 17 now I think.
If ventilation is poor in the house (ie it’s not a leaky old building) and you’re not running a dehumidifier I think you’ll end up regretting it when you’re bleaching the mould off the walls and ceiling in three months
I have damp problems in a couple of corners of the house regardless of heating use. Hence the bleach spray under the sink.
Having said that there is now a weekly walk around the house wiping mold off windows where condensation has built up. I had that last year also but it's worse this year with lower temps.
Can we split this thread into the people who genuinely can’t afford to run the heating this year (for whom I have unlimited sympathy) and the masochists?
I could afford to put my heating on for an hour in the evening but that then leaves less money for other stuff so I choose not to until it is actually cold (which may well be in the next few days looking at the forecast). With the cost of *everything* going up I need to be sensible. I will treat myself to the occasional nice thing but don't have excess money to do so - I cut back on something else to do so (for instance I rode to work for a month instead of driving and bought some HEbTroCo jeans!) I will make it clear though - I am not in a position where I have to choose between heating or eating, that must be awful.
13.7c in the living room now. I will only switch on heater at 7pm.
Wearing double socks, wool based layers tops and bottom with insulated wool jumper and woolly hat.
Mid layers on as well.
^^^ interested to know if that is as a result of the increased costs to heat your house, or is that what you would normally do ? i.e, has your pattern of use of heating changed this year due to economic reasons ?
^^^ interested to know if that is as a result of the increased costs to heat your house, or is that what you would normally do ? i.e, has your pattern of use of heating changed this year due to economic reasons ?
If that's aimed at me, then that's how I've always done it. Money spent on heating is money I can't spend on something I want. With prices the way they are it is even more of an incentive to put another layer on.
^^^ interested to know if that is as a result of the increased costs to heat your house, or is that what you would normally do ? i.e, has your pattern of use of heating changed this year due to economic reasons ?
If it is aimed me, I can say that's almost my normal routine. Except this time I reduce my heating to one hour per day instead of 1 hour in the morning and evening for this time of the year. By mid December I will add one more hour to the heating.
My heating bill has double by comparison to last year.
Thanks, it was a general question prompted by your post. It’s hard to know, reading the posts, how much is business as normal and how much is a change of approach in reaction to fuel costs and inflation.
I am one who feels the cold badly. I have knocked the CH down a touch but thats it. I am not going to be cold and miserable
Looks like I'm around 3 quid a day in Gas and a quid a day in leccy but having been away all summer its hard to tell from the bills yet.
I have very variable heating needs / costs tho as I gain a lot of heat from the offices below me so need more heating at weekends and get huge solar gain
Given that the £66 / month electricity payments for 6 months mean that I am getting free electricity during that period (and at current prices that gives me free electricity for approx 10 or 11 months) I should probably put the heating on. What I'm actually doing is going to the pub or a local gig for a couple of pints every now and then with the money saved.
I have damp problems in a couple of corners of the house regardless of heating use. Hence the bleach spray under the sink.
Yep, solid wall Victorian House and even with CH on, the bathroom's external wall grows mould all winter - just bleach it off every couple of weeks..
we’re now having it on with the thermostat set at 18deg for 30mins each end of the day
Does that actually work? The average temp in my house is 14-15 degrees with no heating use. It takes an hour to get to 17-18 degrees - that's with condensing combi set at 60 degrees (as advised by manufacturer) and TRVs set at position '3'. Now I still think that I have issues with at least 3 TRVs (2 up, 1 down) but putting CH on for 30 mins twice a day would have a negligible effect. I'm completely paranoid about the cost, but also don't want to subject the family to mediaeval conditions.
Edit: we have no thermostat smart or otherwise do everything is done manually.
Just starting to play tunes on flow and stored hot water temperatures. My baseline for gas last week was £28.50. Two rooms on during the day for WFH at 19C and warm the kitchen for lunchtime. We've stopped using the flame-effect gas fire, not very efficient.
To throw a spanner in the works one of the TRV glands is leaking and may have killed a smart head as a result. With luck it's a non-drain repair, will need to check what the TRV body has around the pin.
20 yr old detached 5 bed house over 3 floors in a cold windy high part of west of Scotland . I wfh 3 weeks out of 4. 2 adults and 2 teenagers. We have just replaced all the doors and windows with new units so hoping to keep it below last winter peaks. Heating is on Hive and house around 22 deg most of the day. Boiler replaced about 4 years ago and trv’s throughout.
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November usage numbers.
Elec 112kwh
Gas. 94kwh.
Was £68 odd with octopus. Now running wood burner every evening for 3-4 hours amd ch on for 1hr, but on a 15mins on, then 30mins off cycle x4.
Very slight dampness on my bedsheets but elec blanket lifts this of am evening
I'm a late comer to this thread and I CBA reading through 22 pages worth of knowledge so I'll ask a question that may have been asked already.
Dog owners: at what point does low internal home temperature become an issue for your dogs and what do you do about it?
Locally, temps have been dipping down to a couple of degrees below zero at night. I don't heat the top floor of my house at all but have got one electric baseboard heater set at 15°C in the (open plan) room downstairs the dog sleeps in (and is my home office during the day).
When I'm using that room, I supplement it with a gas fire when needed.
I guess I'm wondering whether the room is warm enough overnight for the dog or whether I can turn the thermostat down!
The dog is a mutt of some description - it's probably a 4 (out of 10) on the hairy/furry scale and loves snow/flakes out in the heat so not sure how to rate his temperature tolerance 😃
Dog will need to get used to be covered with a blanket whilst in bed if he gets cold. You could also investigate a nest type bed with raised sides and a reasonably snug fit.
I've turned my gas central heating on.
Room stat says 8.5°c and that seems to be the point where I can't motivate myself to do anything whilst indoors.
I've taken a meter reading to see what the consumption is over a few hours.
I suspect that mine will have to go on for a bit sometime during the coming week.
530Kw elec used in 6 weeks = £205 inc standing charge. Both of us WFH 4-5 days/week + jar's usual consumption
93Kw gas used in same period = £22 inc standing charge. Approx 1-2hrs of 16c CH/day for the first 5 weeks, but now ramping that up to 5-8hrs.
So that's £227 for 6 weeks, with a bias towards more gas use in the last week.
Re drying clothes, I was going to get one of those heated ones a few weeks ago but they were sold out... So I've been par-drying heavy items, eg jeans, hoodies, sheets in the tumble drier then putting them and all other items on airers beside a radiator, with an old sheet over the top to contain the heat. Much quicker all round.
Big issue in S6 (Sheffield), burst water main caused shrapnel to puncture a gas line and now there's water in the gas pipes, 1200 homes affected. Were told to wait in all day yesterday for someone to (not) turn up, likewise today but we just went out and still no one. Bit of a nightmare with no heating or hot water, not sure when it'll be fixed. Saving on gas central heating although does mean we're using electric heaters at 6x the cost and that's only heating one room, rather than the whole house as the central heating would.
With more relation to the thread... we're still on a fixed tariff until June 23 but worked out our bill will go up by over £1000 a year afterwards (currently £850 for two of us) in a victorian terrace with no insulation.