[Closed] Non-stick pans. Any dishwasher safe ones out there?

jamie oliver tefal (stainless steel) jobbies.

not exactly cheap but not le creuset expensive either

Bought a couple of cheap non stick ones from ikea. Totally non stick and fine in the dishwasher

Does the guarantee not specifically cover the non-stick debonding? (Pretty sure that's what Tefal's does)

Id assumed that DWing non-stick was abuse and not warrantied, but on closer reading:

http://www.lecreuset.co.uk/en-GB/Help--Advice/Care--Use/Care--Use---3-ply-Stainless-Steel/

maybe I should have a go at claiming...

i got a superb one from lidl. weighs a ton, surface is awesome and it seems impervious to the dishwasher.

How can a pan surface be suitable for the intense heat of cooking and frying, but not the 90 degrees or so in a dishwasher? Makes no sense.

i haven't got a degree in physics or anything but i reckon the two processes are reasonably disimilar.

Why's that then? The only difference I can see is a somewhat caustic chemical in contact. By the same token I'd find it hard to imagine dishwasher detergent manufacturers would make something that could strip even cheap non-stick off.

i don't know, i'll try frying some veg in caustic soda and see if the non-stick peels off.
i'll keep you in the loop.

I thought it was the DW detergent that did for non-stick. It certainly did our old anolon pans.

just spoken to the v nice Maria @ le creuset uk and she's asked for photos of the problem, saying that the pans really are tested to be dishwasher safe.

so, fingers crossed. I know Ive done nothing with them that I shouldnt have beyond normal everyday use.....

The dishwasher washing process does seem to be quite aggressive.

We've got some old, cheap Tesco pans that really need replacing, but were holding up relatively well.
Since moving house and buying a dishwasher, the anodising on the pans is getting completely mullered. I assume it not hard anodised.

Non-stick surfaces are fairly delicate, aren't they?

Although, Stoner, reading the guarantee link there is specific mention of using them in a dishwasher, so it doesn't seem like they recommend you don't do this.....

this is the worst of them. TBH the other two arent anything like as bad as this one.
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Anway, shall send the pics off to le creuset and see what they say.

The rest of the 3-ply range are great, so it would be a shame to have to get some different non-sticks.

Put in a warranty claim. I work in this industry and know that the shops get loads of Le Creuset non-stick returns with a peeling coating.

They seem to honour the warranty and provide replacements willingly though.

interesting to hear baz. cheers.

email sent to le creuset, will see what happens.

LOLz at the state of that pan. 😀

If Sika made non-stick pans...

What I like about Stoner, is that he often seems to post up a thread that's been on my mind for ages.

Hurrah for STW. So good, it reads your mind..!

I just looked up Le Creuset 3 ply on Google. Cripes, they aren't cheap!

If I'd spent that much on some pans, I'd want them to survive thermo-nuclear war let alone 90mins in a Bosch!

LOLz at the state of that pan

what gets me is that the damage must have been incremental so it makes me wonder at what point stoner might have started thinking that its days were numbered 😆

stoner might have started thinking that its days were numbered

when my wallet could hide no more 😉

Anyway, the pan still works, it's just not very pretty. Bit like darcy really.

🙁 So nasty...

Tomorrow, I'm putting the finishing touches to this:

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Well the dishwasher will make mincemeat of that.

It'll last longer than a dishwasher and a Le ****et flipping milk pan. 🙂

so, fingers crossed.

Excellent. With the money you've just saved by following my advice, you can buy me a new wok instead.

(-:

You still searching Cougar?

I remember reading that as the coating breaks down, toxic fumes are produced during use, said fumes being responsible for killing budgies and parrots in large numbers. Dogs can also be affected, but humans are impervious.

Anyhoo....

I'd find it hard to imagine dishwasher detergent manufacturers would make something that could strip even cheap non-stick off.

Use cheap dishwasher tabs and they muller glasses in a few washes. Decent Finish or other tarty brand seem to be much kinder.

You still searching Cougar?

In so far as I haven't replaced mine yet, yes. I'm not sure as "searching" is the correct verb here though. Idly [s]p[/s][b]m[/b]anhandling goods in TK Maxx whilst OH looks at shoes and handbags, perhaps.

Nothing to do with your lovely craftsmanship DD but that floor looks a little out of place in that house, somehow. Looks like a modern estate house with workaday carpet then a slab of lovely parquet floor.. seems weird.

seems weird.

You're telling me. For some reason, they didn't want the section down the side of the stairs done. Underneath mine is an old battered wooden floor. They were simply replacing that. But, yes, it looks a but silly. They couldn't be told though.

That explains the inch step-up into the room. They aren't doing the others?

No accounting for taste eh 🙂

Nice job. Come and do mine. Bring a wok.

Nope! 😡

It's not an inch! And the thresholds are machined and chamfered. 🙂

EDIT: @ mol.

Good show 🙂

you see how he never takes a proper un-blurred photo so you cant quite tell how good the finish is...?
😈

Arsebiscuits. Found out. Actually, even for an iPhone camera, those pics were crap. Any better? (for quality of finish?)

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😯

What? 😕

youve spilt alien blood on that. it'll never come out.

I need to employ a photographer or something. 🙁

Why would you put a non-stick pan in a dishwasher?

We've got some German pans that look a bit like these -
http://tiny.cc/hj6ds

have lasted a good few years and show no signs of wearing out. Any Teflon pans I've had, even the expensive 'hard andodised' ones, have worn out or been damaged pretty quickly

Why would you put a non-stick pan in a dishwasher

I draw your attention to the OP where I said I was an idle oaf.

Non-stick pans still need washing, don't they?

Mine just gets a quick rinse and a dry with the dishcloth - wouldn't dream of being an idel oaf and shagging it into the dishwasher. 🙂

*UPDATE*

from the UK Le Creuset helpdesk:

I can see that the problem you have encountered with your pans is a manufacturing fault which is covered by our guarantee...So, if you could confirm your address details for delivery I will order your new Stainless steel pans to be delivered to you as soon as possible.

bish bash bosh.
top service.
happy stoner.

Oooh just spotted this thread.

jamie oliver tefal (stainless steel) jobbies.

We have black anodised Jamie/Tefal ones that we got as wedding presents. Five years later with frequent use and dishwashering, and the non-stick coating inside them is still pretty near perfect.

However the cheap gits obviously didn't use the same coating on the outside of the pans. The black stuff has almost all fallen off leaving bare metal. So they now look like crap, but till function very well.

Good news stonor, you could always get some good stainless steel pans and learn to cook properly so you don't need a non stick. Joke 😀

(Welcome back emsz)

scrambled eggs are best in a non-stick 😛

where did emsz go?

She supportflounced during [url= http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/sexism-on-stw-a-goodbye-and-some-thanks ]sexismgate[/url].

Im pleased to see she has shown the same level of commitment to her flounce as unfortunately TJ did. 😉

The highlight of my week was to be meeting binners, hora, nbt and others but this bit of news may have surpassed that. I'm made up for you Stoner. 😛

Ive met hora. Its nothing to get excited about. Live in the Le Creuset moment. It wont get any better for you this week.

scrambled eggs are best in a non-stick

I did think this - hence popping up when the thread started - now I've juste decided I'm being lazy and that a few minutes' scrubbing after cooking is a small price to pay for my scrambled eggs....

...which are magnificent..! 😀

Theyve gone knackered again. 9 months in.
Email back to Le creuset.
deadlydarcy - your enthusiasm appears premature 😉
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We've got a set of Infinite Circulon pans. I think they were £135 for 3 pans. They are supposedly dishwasher safe, but although they claim they can be put in a dishwasher there is a note that comes with them saying that for best results they should be hand washed....

Hmmm. So, I don't risk it & hand wash them. The non-stick seems so good, that they only need the briefest of soaks before washing.

For a frying pan, we just went for a cheaper John Lewis pan, as we tend to give them more of a battering. Still only hand wash it though...

Le Creuset customer service rools!

I'm sorry to hear, and see, that you have encountered the same problem again with your non-stick pans.

The non-stick peeling from the body of the pan is a manufacturing fault which has affected only a small part of our overall production so it seems you have been most unfortunate to have experienced it more than once - the problem is not specific to a certain size or shape of pan and it is impossible to say which pans would and would not develop the problem though.

In light of this issue we have taken steps with our manufacturer to rectify the problem and have recently launched our new Lifetime Guaranteed Non-Stick on both our Stainless Steel and Toughened Non-Stick pans.

So as I can clearly see the fault with your pans we can order a replacement from our Lifetime Guaranteed stock without you returning the faulty pans to us - we just need your address details and we can order this for you.

superb!
Happy stoner again.

Christ, thank the bejeesus for that. I can go ahead and enjoy my weekend now.

Oh and can you email me some random pics of your shitty pans (oooer, one "t" away from something completely different)? I wouldn't pay for new ones, but if they're giving them away that easily, I'll have some for free.