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I have a 3 day old who seems to be nocturnal. She sleeps all day but is wide awake and active all night.

Anyone got any ideas on how to reset it to the day shift?


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 4:25 am
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They will figure it out after a while. In the womb that was how they would have slept so they are still in that pattern. Just be noisy and light in the day and dark and chilled in the night and they will catch on, but it takes a while.

Massive congratulations too!


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 4:43 am
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I thought as much, thanks. It was wishful thinking there might be some trick to switching them to days.

Luckily our first daughter was the opposite from day one so we haven't had to deal with the long nights of activity before.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 5:49 am
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Congratulations ...

It's the " catch on  " bit that would worry me ..it was 3 years before my son slept right through ..to be honest I don't know how he made it to 15 !


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 6:32 am
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Congratulations OP. Our son is 4 and still doesn’t sleep through. Daughter, who is 7 months, has slept really well since day 1. Weird little things aren’t they.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 6:37 am
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Congratulations. 🙂

Welcome to sleep deprivation hell. I suggest more food & get some rest when she does.

We had 3 years of unbroken sleep and waking up at 0530. Just thinking about it makes me.....aaaaghhhh.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 7:42 am
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Babies and toddlers don’t really get into a sleep pattern, like an adult until they are about school age.

They tend to sleep in short cycles and will happily wake in the middle of the night for a few or more hours. Their melatonin production is not set up right when they are born and takes a while hence the school age.

You also have to remember that one persons all night will be from 11 to 5 where as another persons is 7 till 7


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 7:54 am
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Anyone got any ideas on how to reset it to the day shift?

Congratulations.

Most effective method I have heard of is get a calendar with a month to a page. Watch it and wait to find out what the next picture is. By the time the third picture is revealed you should be getting a few hours between waking. By the end of the year, possibly lulled into a false sense of security by the odd night of unbroken sleep (it is false, btw). By the end of next year's calendar, you won't notice any more and may even get fooled into having another one and starting all over again 😉

Sadly, time. As said above, *try* and have as normal a routine yourself and she'll cotton on. Eventually. And then you have about 3 weeks of bliss, before.....

https://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/sitting-here-waiting-for-your-daughter/


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 7:56 am
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Thanks all. Sounds like it is just a case of toughing it out.

Our first slept through from about 18 months and now at 3 1/2 sleeps from about 8pm until 6:30am which is great.

I don't expect this one to go through the night but even an hour would be great. The little git is happily sleeping for 4hrs at a time during the day.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 8:33 am
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Take it in turns. One has 'baby name' duty and sleeps in same room as baby and the other sleeps elsewhere. Hence I'll do your duty if I can go ride my bike till 2 on Saturday...


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 8:38 am
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Wow I wish my baby had slept all day and been up all night.

Trust me that’s a great start and beats up all night and day.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 8:46 am
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Dad to a 5 week old, our first so winging it everyday.

He didn't get breastfeeding straight away, so was fed expressed milk top ups after a breastfeed (or attempt at it). These would put him to sleep for a good few hours. We still give him extra expressed milk some nights and he sleeps well after that.

He goes between bottle and breast with no issues. We're using the Medela Calma bottle, which is designed to aid switching between the two. (It is pricier though than say Tommie Tippie)

So based on our experience you could try feeding extra expressed milk at bedtime


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 10:36 am
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Dmorts - at 3 1/2 I'm still making it up as I go along. Wish these things came with a manual.

We are bottle feeding (no milk production from my wife) whenever she looks like she wants a feed.

It's funny that you mentioned shifts and riding Jekkyl. After my turn this morning / last night I was out for a quick ride at 03:30.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 11:10 am
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As Big Yim says.

Lots of light, attention, noise and stimulating activity in the morning.

Lots of relaxing baths, dim lighting, low volume and peace at night.

She'll work it out.

My only advice is to make sure that she's awake when you put her down so she'll becomes used to putting herself to sleep. Tough to begin with but will reap dividends down the line. Good luck!


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 11:47 am
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All of the above.

My eldest (now 14) was at The BBC Big Weekend gig at Scone Palace last Saturday.

I had to pick him up off the bus - it was past midnight before I got to bed. Bloody kids 😉


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 11:51 am
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Chloroform.....

yourself and your wife, then you won’t notice the noise.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 12:10 pm
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Wish these things came with a manual.

Even if they did, you find that you have been given the manual for the 4.0.1.1 release when yours is the 4.0.1.2 with the additional software modification for altitude triggered crying*

* Stand up and walk around with her on your shoulder - all's good. Sit down, triggers the 45cm change in altitude response.


 
Posted : 29/05/2018 12:33 pm
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Thinking back to that time with mini sims, make sure you take turns, and stay aware of your tiredness so you don’t take it out on each other. How’s it going today?


 
Posted : 30/05/2018 9:42 pm
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Our one year old screams from 0200 to 0500 every night. Wants to be sat up with the light on in our bed. Will scream until he is picked up from his cot. Will scream if we lie him with us. Goes to bed fine. Sleeps fine again from 0500 but in-between he is a turd.

Can't wait for it to be over. It's killing us.

Our near 4 year old slept from 9 months and sleeps 1900-0630.


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 1:26 am
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How’s it going today?

She is beginning to get there. Once we realised the sucking and hand chomping was a sign of trapped wind and not just a cue for feeding it got alot better. She was sleeping for 3-4 hours at a time last night.

It's amazing how much we have forgotten in the three and a half year since her sister was born. It's slowly beginning to all come back though. I just hope this one doesn't develop acid reflux like the first did


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 6:54 am
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Little Miss breadcrumb started sleeping through at 3 months, 8-8:30.

Then at some point it changes. Teething. AHH!

Struggling to get her down some nights too, could be over tired but it's proving difficult to speed up the night routine at times.


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 7:06 am
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ah, missed the fact it was a second. Far easier, despite now having two reliant on you.

I remember being in the changing rooms of a saturday morning baby swimming lesson, overhearing earnest and worried conversations about the snuffling cold being suffered by little Hermione, and how it was keeping her awake and what to do. Parent 1 recounted how she'd been told to put some carvol drops in a bowl of hot water under the cot. P2 told she had been told to put a damp towel on the radiator to keep the room moist.

In the car on the way home I asked the wife what we'd do when baby beans gets a cold. 'Turn the monitor down so she doesn't keep us awake' was the voice of experience of the second time round parent......


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 7:09 am
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Both of ours have reflux. Eldest had it really bad and was getting milk in his lungs. Made him extremely ill.  It was horrendous for three years. In and out of hospital, constant screaming for hours, unable to sleep and not much we could do other than comfort him. He’s much better now. Little sod still attempts to sneak in to our bed three or four times each night though. Mix of meds and keeping upright is working for his sister.


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 7:11 am
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Real world story...

Baby has had a blocked nose and cold for the last three nights waking him up constantly. Just easier to sleep in our bed as it woke him up constantly so he did so.

Last night we had to feel the pain of retraining...! Hour and a half of whinging, but he put himself to sleep and will do so easily tonight. General message is that a few nights of stressful but correct sleeping practices means longer term joy! The 2nd will be so much easier....!

Good luck!


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 7:55 am
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That sounds awful for your kids funkmasterp. I well remember the endless screaming and posting on here about it. Luckily ours was mostly controlled with gaviscon from 4 weeks old until about 8 months when weened.


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 9:16 am
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Congrats! I have our 2 day old boy asleep on my chest at the moment, our first, and wife asleep next to me.  Flipping amazing, isn’t it?

First night at home last night. He was wide awake at 11 to 1. And a bit unsettled the rest of the time, apart from from 4:30 till 730. I could sleep well when he was feeding, so we put him in the basket on my side, so I could have my hand on his chest to settle him and give his hand cuddle and his face a stroke when the schnuffling turned to crying. Wife could sleep then, knowing he was being looked after. I gave her a nudge when the feeding cues got more insistent.

Might not work tonight, though, or ever again!  Oh, I used my jumper as a top blanket. My delightful scent might have helped, who knows?

Good luck adventuring into the unknown!


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 9:45 am
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3 days in and already asking advice LOL! Wait until you've had it a few months. Years. But as said above, they figure it out but you just need routine, routine and some routine.

(Ours turn 9 next week and we still have problems with one of them sleeping (she often takes a long time to get off and can wake during the night wanting reassurance). The other one - she's asleep before her head hits the pillow.


 
Posted : 31/05/2018 9:58 am

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