Nobhead neighbour skunking in the garden

"And he’s playing Phil bustard Colins at 0.0 dB"

Ask him to turn it up then

I bet it'll be in the air tonight? Oh lord.

We've got this day in day out. I was hoping the parents with 2 young children would grow out of this habit. It comes through all the windows starting at 7.00 am - around 11.30 pm. Selfish, inconsiderate gits.
Although they only play the loud music when I'm on my own.

I suggest you play some Bach or Beethoven very loudly towards him.

yes, police will be interested if you advise when he drives.

I'm live and let live when it comes to recreational drug use (noted that it's not blowing in my window) although I do recognise that somewhere up the chain someone is dealing and potentially exploiting others in doing so.

I'm absolutely not live and let live when it comes to DUI whether that's drugs or alcohol

Edit: dB level wrong is OP 🙄

Given the temperature he'll be sitting in the garden, No Jacket Required.

Seriously though, if he's DUI dob him in to the cops.

Water the grass.

skunking

😆

I’d say don’t tell tales to the police. It’s not a nice thing to do.

You should sue-sue-sue-dio him.

Against all odds, maybe it will rain down, then you could have another day in paradise.

Just another day in paradise, eh?

Give him one more night

then shop hi to the popo

I’m absolutely not live and let live when it comes to DUI whether that’s drugs or alcohol

THIS. Without question - the damage that can be done by an inebriated driver is beyond comprehension. There is no way you can stand back. Advise the police. You're not being a grass, you're performing an act with a view to public safety.

Call police.

Police wont do anything
I watched a man leave a pub with, i presume his other half.
Got into his audi a5 with the obligatory tinted windows.
3 mins later big wafts of skumk eminating from car. Approx 10 mins later he drove off.
I ring 999. Not an emergency was the response. try 111 said the operator
Thanks, might as well ring the speaking clock as they never answer.

Plenty of evidence on Twitter that the Police absolutely do take things like this seriously (DUI -drink or drugs that is).

Used to like the smell of resin. Skunk smells like piss.
It's everywhere now. Luckily Phil Collins isn't so much.

I’d say don’t tell tales to the police. It’s not a nice thing to do.

Wonder if you’d feel the same if he knocked over your kid…

Absolutely call the police if he gets in the car. If not, then not much you can do..

I’d say don’t tell tales to the police. It’s not a nice thing to do.

I'd say that if he's driving under the influence of drugs that's a perfectly good reason to shop him.

Really don't understand the strange concept of "grassing people up". The chance of him killing or critically injuring someone is massively increased if he's on drugs at the wheel, and I can only assume that you think this is a good thing.

Report it to the Police when he gets in the car, 999, with vehicle registration etc

If they have a spare resource in the area, they WILL take it seriously.

If their reduced resources are tied up already, there's not a lot they can do, this time.

Surrey roads police have an actively monitored Twitter; I follow it because it's funny reading comments after they've rightly nicked someone

People have reported drivers for drink or drugs DUI on there, the operator asks them to DM it and they then acted on it.

Other forces, YMMV

I’m absolutely not live and let live when it comes to DUI whether that’s drugs or alcohol

The problem here is testing.

With alcohol you can be completely free of it within 24, to 48h tops, but with weed it can register as being in your system weeks later. So while it might register on their device, you arent under the effect of it.

Skunk - It's like an Invisible Touch.

With all this contradictory advice I bet OP is in a land of confusion
But seriously this good weather won't be helping, I wish it would rain down but I reckon he's got at least one more night of it

Bah! @what goes up I missed again

For a while I had neighbours that smoked from the moment they arrived in from work until they went to bed. I wasn't so bothered (quite like the smell in small doses, tolerable enough in larger ones) but my ex-gf was seriously upset about it. My copper mate advised to report that they were producing it rather than just smoking it if we wanted to see some action.

If it's just a one off just live and let live.

@thestabiliser - I cannot believe it’s true, but don’t worry about strangers like me - yours was a slightly different take, so now everyone has heard both sides of the story. Hang in long enough and against all odds you’ll be able to dance into the light.

If it's happening Every day, I'd give him One more night ... then let him know. Tell him "Wear my hat, see Through my eyes. You're Droned. Only you and I know at the moment, but if you keep it up then the cops will hear Both sides of the story". Then if you catch him again ask him "I cannot believe it's true. Do you remember? I said you could have one more night. It's in your eyes now but I don't care any more!"

He's bound to be spun out after that.

And make sure the Police Don't lose erm... your number, in case they need to call back.

I’m live and let live when it comes to recreational drug use (noted that it’s not blowing in my window) although I do recognise that somewhere up the chain someone is dealing and potentially exploiting others in doing so.

My drugs detective mate has told me a lot about what goes on right through the drugs trade, even weed can be incredibly nasty; violence and torture, human trafficking, exploitation of vulnerable people, murders and GBH.
I was live and let live when i was younger, and used to take drugs myself, i'm much less tolerant now i know what goes on.
I don't believe we should legalise beyond medical* use until there is a surefire way of catching drivers under the influence.

Weed is hard to prove of being under the influence, it needs a blood test to be sure, but it can linger in the blood at pretty high doses for a while and can impair driving well after someone thinks they're sober. My mate at uni got done for it and hadn't smoked for 12 hours.

*I absolutely think there should be medically prescribed cannabinoids for chronic conditions, but not a free-for-all

With alcohol you can be completely free of it within 24, to 48h tops, but with weed it can register as being in your system weeks later. So while it might register on their device, you arent under the effect of it.

From what i understand this is wrong. Otherwise the likes of network rail, most power companies and many construction companies wouldn't throw you off site for testing positive.

Doesn't the entire UK just smell of skunk for the entirety of the summer?

Or is that just Manchester?

Quite an extensive of Phil Collins songs here.  Do we need another guilty pleasures thread?

My drugs detective mate has told me a lot about what goes on right through the drugs trade, even weed can be incredibly nasty; violence and torture, human trafficking, exploitation of vulnerable people, murders and GBH.

It is utterly brutal. Make no mistake. If you're buying & using - your complicit in enabling somebody else's miserable suffering.

The interesting thing is that its impossible to demonstrate impairment with stoned drivets who are concentrating until they are very very stoned. I have seen a clesely very stoned driver pass impairment tests and its been tested as well with track driving. That is why the blood levels were brought in. The debate is around what blood levels are appropriate and there is no rconsensus

Quite an extensive of Phil Collins songs here. Do we need another guilty pleasures thread?

Many too many...but seriously, that's all.

Tj has it right.. its not comparable to drink driving imo.

Also, draconian drug policy drives the violence, exploitation etc.

Its not that there is no impairment. Its that impairment is around getting distracted and forgetting. But its very hard to demonstrate because when tested folk concentrate

Here's a mad idea then. If you're planning on driving later that day, just don't smoke any weed?

Tell the police you think there is drug dealing/manufacturing going on. They will soon be there and might do something about it.

I'd ignoor it if it wasn't very often but it sounds very annoying.

The debate is around what blood levels are appropriate and there is no rconsensus

The same is true for alcohol! Its irrelevant for both THC (the active component of cannabis/skunk) and Alcohol there is a prescribed limit - if you are above that you are breaking the law. If you operate a vehicle and take drugs you almost certainly aren't in a better place to judge the impact on your perception/response than the arbitrary cut-offs set in law.

mrlebowski
Free Member

It is utterly brutal. Make no mistake. If you’re buying & using – your complicit in enabling somebody else’s miserable suffering

The opposite is true, it's the prohibitionists that enable a black market and all that goes with it.

Don't blame me for the consequences of your perverse laws.

mjsmke
Full Member
Tell the police you think there is drug dealing/manufacturing going on. They will soon be there and might do something about it.

Might also do you with wasting police time.

I'm happy for drugs to be legalised to remove the criminal side effects. We have no chance of winning the war on drugs.

But I'll happily lock up anyone DUI

I’m happy for drugs to be legalised to remove the criminal side effects. We have no chance of winning the war on drugs.

Rescind your silly laws and make it go away overnight. The ball's in your court.

Tj has it right.. its not comparable to drink driving imo.

Maybe not, but I'd still rather heftier sentences for both drink and drug driving. This banning them then they're caught again driving without a license, then they get a further ban bollocks boils my piss. First offence, ban, caught driving again during ban, 5 years prison, caught drink driving again after ban is complete, 5 year ban, crush motor, then 5 years prison. Fit all cars with breath test immobilisers, don't pass, car goes nowhere. Don't fit an immobilizer, your insurance is 5 grand a year.

Where I am we've got a neighbour who puffs away like it's going out of fashion with her mate, then her mate jumps in a car, usually because they are both nurses and they're going to work.

We have a school at the end of the road where at least 3 regular cars pull up in the car park at different times of the day for a smoke before going on their way.

I don't care what the opinion is on drug smoking and driving is, pretty sure the law is clear and most opinions are likely to change if one of their family is taken out by some prat who thinks they're fine to drive after a smoke.

Same here. Nobhead teen next door constantly getting high with his friends in his mum's garage 15 years ago, has turned into a nobhead 30-y-o next door still living at home with his mum who now gets high in his mum's garden (or hanging out his bedroom window).

Now I'm a live-and-let-live kinda guy, but I hate the stink of weed, especially when it invariably wafts into my house. And his is some seriously strong weed.

Have seriously thought about shopping him to the Feds. At the very least his drug use counts as anti-social behaviour if it's affecting his neighbours, doesn't it??

As for the op, I'm calling the claims as potentially dubious given the op is a bit of a curtain twitcher when it come to his neighbours and likes to take photos of their windows and post them online. 😆

We all contribute to negative outcomes whether we're consuming oil, food, cheap clothing etc etc.

0 DB would be the volume setting on a classic amp, were the the volume nob cuts the output... so 0db would be full volume

re neighbour(s)
best bet.. "oi mate can you do me a favour, move down the garden a bit when you're have a smoke it's stinking me out in here"

The ball’s in your court.

I don't drive myself so have never bothered looking into how they test for this stuff. But do agree anyone under the influence should probably give themselves a good 8 hours of kip and a few hours on top of that before driving. At least 16 hours would seem like good advice to me.

zilog6128
Full Member
The ball’s in your court.

is it? Shit, am I PM now?

Not as far as I'm aware, but the collective attitude of curtain twitchers united is the issue here. 😆

Rescind your silly laws and make it go away overnight. The ball’s in your court.

Absolutely. People are always gonna want to get high. They've given the industry to organised criminals.

As for grassing people up, I just think it's vindictive and cowardly behaviour. Using the police as a weapon whilst hiding behind anonymity. My own personal bugbear is people operating power tools. Right now I'm sat in the garden enjoying the fine weather and some git is running a chainsaw.

I just have to own the fact that I have failed to earn enough money in order to live on my own private island, and as such have to share the environment with nobheads. If it was a Sunday I might go and ask them politely whether they really need to be doing that, or I could just do what I normally do: pray to god that they have a nasty accident. I don't start thinking of ways I can get them in trouble with the police.

Drink driving you can demonstrate clear imoairmenr even at a level of 20. Thats the scots limit because the evidence is clear. Cannabis and driving its impossible to do so unil you get the levels equivalent to paralytic drunk. It simply does not effect you motor skills and reflexes in the same way.

Tne blood limits are totally arbitary without any scientifuc basis

The do cross potentiate tho so a small amount of alcohol plus a small amount of cannabis means you are very impaired

It doesn't affect you the same way, agreed TJ, should still be a zero tolerance approach to it though as much as possible. It's still impairment.

I don't know the details of the test, but I'm pretty sure they'll be sensitive enough to let the polis know if someone smoked a joint an hour ago as opposed to 16 hours ago? I'd imagine the levels although stay in your system for a month drop off pretty quickly?

You could be over the blood limit days after your last joint.

Need a better test then.

If it was zero tolerance then its detecable for weeks p

Needs a li.it with a scientific basis ie at the point of impairment

As above i have seen a man clearly very stoned pass the impairment test. Walk in a line and stand on one foot etc tests

Did say as much as possible. But still, sounds like a few quid to be made for any budding chemists out there with knowledge of improving the sensitivity of such tests.

As above i have seen a man clearly very stoned pass the impairment test. Walk in a line and stand on one foot etc tests

Yeah, that kinda test does seem pretty useless tbh, you generally don't lose your balancing skills while stoned.

Smoking weed in his own back garden - not a problem, live and let live.
You having to smell it - not acceptable, have a word
Playing Phil Collins - straight red card, three match ban.
Driving when skunked - total prick, if they've smoked enough to get high then no way should they be driving.

It's easy to test for. Put a bar of chocolate in front of them and if they resist send them on their way, if the have the munchies send them down.

If you were to have a scrap with your neighbour who would win? If the answer is you, then pop round and ask him to pack it in.

Take the valve cores out of his wheels.

Seosamh77

The blood tests plenty good enough. Its the political decision of what level constitutes a ban is the issue.

The problem is that there is no scientific consensus what the ban level should be as there is no decent data to base it on

Fair enough. Might look into it in more detail sometime, out of curiosity.

tbf I've seen loads of people drive while stoned. They just don't recognise they are impaired.

Anyhow, a wee public awareness campaign probably wouldn't go a miss. Something involving the 16 hours I mentioned before. It'll not stop it all, but might make a lot of people reassess their own actions.

best bet.. “oi mate can you do me a favour, move down the garden a bit when you’re have a smoke it’s stinking me out in here”

Not an option. He is a violent, psychotic thug.

I did think I was right in some respects with the 0.0 dB thing...

BTW - after Phil Collins, he started playing Bob Marley - I shit thee not.

Not an option. He is a violent, psychotic thug.

God help you if the police cough that it was you that grassed him up (or he just guesses it was you). Best move house then.

I'd probably just shut the back windows myself and open the front yins. 😆 Mind you, I'd probably just join him out the back.

my neighbour is a member of the police, while chatting over the fence it wafted over the gardens and he looked pretty irate. not something he wants stopping him and his young kids from enjoying their garden.
i said there was a guy a few doors up who was quite keen on it, but hes moved now and ive no idea about the woman who replaced him, could just be kids in the park.
he did suggest that if he got any indication of a house number, rather than just yoots in the park, they would be getting a knock.

apparently they now have a pretty good spot test, so can act on it a lot more easily.

as most would say: live and let live, except when its making your who garden stink of sweaty armpit

as most would say: live and let live, except when its making your who garden stink of sweaty armpit

It is bloody horrible. It actually does smell of BO. Used to quite like getting the odd waft of hash in a beer garden, but this new-fangled crackweed is awful.

psychotic thug and phil collins fan? boy's got some serious issues...

What's all this rubbish about curtain twitching.

If, like us you are adjoined to a house where the stench (from the prevailing wind, we live on a hill see) comes in through the windows whenever the neighbours are at home, then it really is inconsiderate , selfish and thoughtless not to mention unhealthy.
I really don't want to have to put up with her and her 3 mates sitting in the back garden (she calls it her land) on the hottest day of the year and have to have all our windows closed, because our house is filled with the stink (even with curtains closed its getting through.
There are some people wjo just don't give a single toss about anyone else in the their lives, this includes their children and animals.
Not to mention their dog barking all day Sunday.

I'm at the end of my tether frankly.

Edit: forgot to mention hubby and I both work from home.

I guess there'd be a few vegans out there who feel the same way everytime the bacon goes on or a bbq gets lit. A truly awful predicament.

Crackweed. Just cause the stuff years ago was shit, doesn't make this stuff crackweed. 😆

Anyhow what else banning. Barbecues no a fan of my hoose stinking of other people's smoke. Wood burning stoves?

The opposite is true, it’s the prohibitionists that enable a black market and all that goes with it.

Don’t blame me for the consequences of your perverse laws.

That as maybe but until the law changes you're an enabler. No point saying "ah yeah but change the law etc...." Until that law is changed my point stands & you are part of the process that's making someone somewheres life a misery.

Same as you then Lebowski I guess.