[Closed] No time to pee (Bond spoilers)

Aren't the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.
Megalomaniac bent on some sort of domination, Bond saves the day.

Bond 25:The saga continues.
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Prepares for the hate.... 😆

Aren’t the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.
Megalomaniac bent on some sort of domination, Bond saves the day

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Aren’t the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.

That's been the case for 40 years. Some people like that. Some people don't. See also pretty much every other film franchise or long running TV show, bands, authors etc

I’d forgot that was this week. Might have to check local cinemas.

Booked.

Will probably be disappointed. Don’t care.

Anyone know the UK rating yet, I’d like to go with Junior, 12.8 yo…

Aren’t the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.
Megalomaniac bent on some sort of domination, Bond saves the day.

Thanks for your contribution.

Looking forward to it. Hope that they don't bugger it up.

I read somewhere that they've re-shot scenes with phones as they were product placed and technology had moved on during the delay.

Bond’s booked for the morning

Watching a movie in the morning?
Whatever next?

Damn no early release up here.

Watching a movie in the morning?
Whatever next?

Milkshake on cornflakes for breakfast.

It's a slippery slope from that point onwards

OP, take a wide mouth drinks bottle with you, just in case.

Pretty much the same format each time.
Megalomaniac bent on some sort of domination, Bond saves the day.

Mostly, except from 'Casino Royal' perhaps? Which is basically following bond as a mark in a complicated financial Swindle...

Aren’t the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.

Isn’t cycling just titting around on two wheeled toys. Getting a bit dated now surely.

Aren’t the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.
Megalomaniac bent on some sort of domination, Bond saves the day.

s/Bond/Marvel

s/Marvel/Batman

s/Batman/Bourne

s/Bourne/Mission Impossible

etc.

Cheers for the heads up. Tickets booked for release day

Watching a movie in the morning?
Whatever next?

Went for the 10am showing , give me time for a wetherspoons breakfast 😉

Went for the 10am showing , give me time for a wetherspoons breakfast

Bond is pro-Brexit?

Im waiting for the one where he fights tory party corruption selling off the country's assets to billionaire party donors.

We should get Ken Loach to direct the next one....🙂

We should get Ken Loach to direct the next one….🙂

His Star Wars was superb:

I'm amazed it hasn't been delayed again. Top Gun has been pushed back to next year.

Aren’t the Bond movies just getting a bit dated now. Pretty much the same format each time.
Megalomaniac bent on some sort of domination, Bond saves the day.

Yeah, I'll still watch it though.

Me too 😆

Laughs in small local independent cinema land, where we still get an interval and someone selling ice creams...

Laughs from a comfy sofa at The Rex with table service drinks and bowls of liquorice all sorts.

So, am I right in thinking that it's not actually clear whether Lashana Lynch's character is actually 007?

I mean in the trailers, M's line is "Where's 007?" and the next shot is her, so we're invited to make the connection but we don't know what the answer to his question is in the film...And during the conversation between Bond and her character, he asks if she's now a "00"  and she says "2 years now" but doesn't say any more than that...

I'm reading too much into it aren't I? 😂

Laughs in small local independent cinema land, where we still get an interval and someone selling ice creams…

Yep!

Laughs in living room where we get to watch a grainy cam corder ripped verson downloaded as a torrent on the opening night....

I think the thread title is a joke. The film isn't really called "no time to pee" is it?

Well, this is looking good:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-58718299

Me and Jnr have the Odean luxury chairs booked for Friday, I cannot wait for what is anticipated to be my best movie experience for a long time.

Yep, seems to be five stars in the vast majority of publications, very excited now for tomorrow night*

Even watched Spectre again last night to get in the mood, wasn't half as bad as I remember.

*only hitch is I have 5 miles of petrol left in the car and cinema is a 36 mile round trip.

So, am I right in thinking that it’s not actually clear whether Lashana Lynch’s character is actually 007?

*Slight spoiler*

The Guardian review, much as everyone suspected, confirms that Bond has retired and she has been assigned 007.

Having tickets for Friday I'm trying to miss all the preview clips on telly at the moment.

s/Bond/Marvel

s/Marvel/Batman

s/Batman/Bourne

s/Bourne/Mission Impossible

etc.

Have you seen the one were they kill the baddy at the end but then it turns out they weren't dead and they have to kill them for a second time. Oh no wait that is every one.

Jane Bond?

Laughs in small local independent cinema land, where we still get an interval and someone selling ice creams…

Wel jel.

I was only talking about this with The Girl at the weekend. Trying to explain to a 20-something about how cinemas used to stop films halfway through to change the reel, and a woman would come round with a torch and a tray of ice creams. She looked at me like I'd just landed from Jupiter.

I didn't mention how half the theatre probably had a fag on the go too. I'd likely have seen TILT flash across her retinas.

I didn’t mention how half the theatre probably had a fag on the go too

Yeah, but there was a non smoking section for the health Nazis, magically sealed off by the power of being a bit to the side of the smoking bit.

Trying to explain to a 20-something about how cinemas used to stop films halfway through

Been there, done that. had the pitying look

confirms that Bond has retired and she has been assigned 007.

Yeah read it, I knew he'd retired, but I was just stirring the pot a bit 😁

Trying to explain to a 20-something about how cinemas used to stop films halfway through to change the reel, and a woman would come round with a torch and a tray of ice creams.

And an albatross if I remember correctly.

confirms that Bond has retired and she has been assigned 007.

I think I've read somewhere that Bond had retired, she was assigned 007, then he comes back... e.g. from IMBD "His peace is short-lived when Felix Leiter, an old friend from the CIA, turns up asking for help..."

I guess we'll know after someone here watches it, I might now avoid this thread until Saturday...

And an albatross if I remember correctly.

What flavour is it?

Time to add spoilers to the title? I’ll report to admin to ask

I wont spoil it for anyone but its very good.
I made sure i didnt drink anything, but still had to pop out for a pee at around 2 hrs in.
Luckily i knew what was coming so i had a couple of mins to do my business 😁

Luckily i knew what was coming

Was he attempting re-entry? Keeping the British end up?

Soz

^ Someone needs an early night.

Damn tooting right 🙂
For stupidity as much as grumpiness.

^ Someone needs an early night.

I think I’ve read somewhere that Bond had retired, she was assigned 007, then he comes back… e.g. from IMBD “His peace is short-lived when Felix Leiter, an old friend from the CIA, turns up asking for help…”

Guardian review says he comes back in some kind of freelance capacity, rather than reclaiming the 007 moniker. Guess I'll know for sure in a few hours...

Ive just seen it. Its good, the new 007 didnt work for me, but maybe thats progress.
Big cinema in town with massive electric seats, beer and crisp’s.

Faaaaarrkkkkk

For those who have seen it, which, if any, films need to be watched first to get the most out of this? I've heard "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" mentioned.

For those who have seen it, which, if any, films need to be watched first to get the most out of this? I’ve heard “On Her Majesty’s Secret Service” mentioned.

Nah, watch Spectre to get Madeline's back story fresh in your head if you haven't seen it for a while (I found it not as half as bad as I remembered if that helps).

The links to OHMSS are strong, but all thematic (use of the 1969 DBS, music (a lot!) and a couple of lines), not anything plot wise.

Cheers.

Went last night with BBG and FBG (FBG is a big bond fan) and went full 4DX. Really enjoyed it - best of the Craig era films IMO. BBG and FBG were in bits at the end though. The boy in particular had tears streaming down bless him.

The bad news is I think I've lost my wallet. prbably shaken out of my pocket by the 4DX seats...

Good news - the cinema have found my wallet 🙂

Good news – the cinema have found my wallet

Well, they had all the time in the world 😉

3 X 4DX seats and you expected to keep your wallet?

Faaaaarrkkkkk

Yeah this for me. I thought it was a great film, the time went quickly, and junior was over the moon about it. For me the first Craig film and this are the best. The first because of the impact he brought to the new style of Bond, and this because… well because of what it is.

Noted so many tributes throughout.

The next movie has a very very hard act to follow IMO.

I think I might have to watch it again.....

Loved the little homages to earlier Bonds - mainly OHMSS.

Not sure I thought it was as good as Casino or Skyfall though....

Saw it last night. Entertaining, but at times the contrast between it trying to break the Bond mould while also being a Bond pastiche felt a bit clunky.

A good finish to the Craig era.

A highlight was the Cuban agent, it could have been awkward but they played the generation gap well and she was effortlessly badass.

Rami Malek excellent as ever as baddie, I was hoping Bond was going to drop him through bomb bay doors into the acid, but just shot him instead. Missed opportunity.

Bond will be back in "Time to Reboot"

So do we think that the next agent who assumes the 007 title will also be bestowed with the James Bond alias as an ongoing tribute to MI6's finest?
Kind of like when Lazenby said 'this never happened to the other fella' at the start of OHMSS.

Jeez, we're heading out to see it in a minute and my son's just announced he's putting some old jeans in the wash in an attempt to recolour them with some kind of in wash concoction! How inopportune!

So there's just no time to dry......

So there’s just no time to dry……

Chapeau!

Jeez, we’re heading out to see it in a minute and my son’s just announced he’s putting some old jeans in the wash in an attempt to recolour them with some kind of in wash concoction! How inopportune!

Dye another day

Not sure I thought it was as good as Casino or Skyfall though….

I liked it but agree it wasn't quite on par with Skyfall.

I didn't feel like Malek was quite the baddy he could have been. My missus put it best by noting that despite wanting to commit genocide she just didn't find him chilling enough. I just didn't think he was in it enough.

I didn't think it felt like 3hrs.

The thing it did best of all was bring the Craig era bond films to a close as a complete story arc, previous bonds have essentially functioned as a series of self contained films. I'll admit I sort of don't care what they do next, whether they follow Bond's successor (who was maybe a little underdeveloped in this film?) Or opt for a reboot I kind of feel like it's been well enough wrapped up now.

I do however think it's going to send the angry incell trolls into overdrive, particularly the ending...

I loved it, but can anyone explain what Safins plan actually was after he’d got revenge on Spectre? As in who was he going to target with the mass-produced Damocles? He’d stolen a bunch of genetic records to presumably target someone but not sure if I missed who/that was?

As for what is next for the Bond franchise, I have sneaking suspicion (which I think would be cool), that they are going to reboot it set back in the 60’s. Perhaps the revenue stream from product placement will prevent that though!

I also think this is the point we might see spin-offs (be that films or TV series). The much touted Jinx spin off from Die Another Day never happened thank god, but I reckon they might try it with Naomi, or even better Paloma. I’d personally like to see them have a crack at Charlie Higson’s Young Bond books

I loved it, but can anyone explain what Safins plan actually was after he’d got revenge on Spectre? As in who was he going to target with the mass-produced Damocles? He’d stolen a bunch of genetic records to presumably target someone but not sure if I missed who/that was?

Might have misheard but when Safin was talking to new 00X did he say something about wiping out 'the whole of your race' which was a possibility given the extension of the DNA profiles.

I thought it was ace, didn't feel like 3 hours, just enough corniness to be a proper Bond film, good ending for the Craig era to find out he's just a big softy after all.

And I was aiming at No Time to Dye earlier, but Dye (or Dry) Another Day is even better.

As in who was he going to target with the mass-produced Damocles? He’d stolen a bunch of genetic records to presumably target someone but not sure if I missed who/that was?

*Herecles

I thought he wanted to kill everyone, but spare a chosen few to repopulate?

Or maybe a Thanos type deal?

I loved it. Long but I think it deserved it. I'd dehydrated myself purposely all day!

I agree with the above, a really good way to round off the Daniel Craig era. I was surprised how much it touched me!

I absolutely loved the little nods to OHMSS, the musical score is superb with the clever strings taking you back in time 50 years!

In the future, who knows, young Bond?

Shook.

watched it last night, like timmys, I really couldn't fathom out Safin's plan either. I think the producers realised as well,  hence the (what to me) felt like a re-shoot of Mallory and Bond on Embankment discussing the nature of the threats they all face now being "We don't know who are enemies are, or what they want" I think he was just  a "baddy" for the 00's to fight. in the style of older Bonds, complete with underground liar in a disused bunker stylee.

As for the reboot, mleh, I don't think they'll even be as subtle as to try to explain it. We'll just get a re-boot, and I'll bet 50p it won't be Leshana. Although I'll bet she'll get a TV series out of it.

As for the reboot, mleh, I don’t think they’ll even be as subtle as to try to explain it. We’ll just get a re-boot, and I’ll bet 50p it won’t be Leshana. Although I’ll bet she’ll get a TV series out of it.

I think it might make sense and be interesting for them to go back with 'Nomi' and fill in a back story, she's supposedly been a 00 for two years by the time of this film, and it felt like she needed more backstory TBH, there's easily an in-between prequel film or a series in that. Build that character and see if she gains some traction, dare I say it draft Phoebe Waller-Bridge back in to at least help round her out.

I'm not bothered about a reboot personally, the old films, based on the original books stand on their own. But it may well be one of those things that waits half a decade and then they can make a fuss over picking the next bond again. There's an opportunity to make money, but Bond is a different sort of franchise, the films are both in and of their times at the same time as carrying a bit of nostalgia.

Going back and remaking Bond in period correct settings feels rather redundant now, if they're going to reboot it, new plots and current settings, try to move it forward. For people that just want to watch the same action film over and over there's plenty of Marvel on Disney+ 😉

I think it might make sense and be interesting for them to go back with ‘Nomi’

At the end of the credits there was the usual "James Bond will return" As much as a step forward as it was (for this franchise) to have a black woman as a 00, I doubt very much, they'll be keen to hang a couple of films on her TBH, they're just too conservative for that, and the usual "who will be the next Bond" generates so much publicity, they'd be reluctant to give it up.

Personally, i think Bond as a franchise is pretty much done, it's had a hell of a run, but the Daniel Craig era was a reboot to match up with the Bourne stuff and other ideas, i just can't really see what they can do to appeal to future audiences without a real think about it.

I can't see Nomi having another outing, that's just not a Bond franchise, that's its own thing, and in this day and age, it's again fighting against a fair few movies that have done this style already, same with a reboot with someone remotely famous, who out there is in their early 30s that can go into this role and get a good 3 or 4 movies over 15 years, not many, i don't think many would care that much about changing some of the character either, i just don't see it really working as well again, it's a downward spiral now and probably not a great career move for someone this time around.

Very puzzled about the ending - they haven't killed 007, they've killed James Bond. Anyone who plays 007 now will need their own back-story, their own DB5, their own 'shaken not stirred'. By killing James Bond they've killed almost 60 years of character development. Really, nobody cares whether Bond is 007, or retired Commander Bond - he is the character, 'Bond, James Bond'. It's the Bond franchise, not the 007 franchise. Put another character into the 007 position and it's just Bourne or Mission Impossible. And I'm saying this as someone who cares very little about Bond films. As I said, I;m very puzzled about the thinking behind this.

Personally, i think Bond as a franchise is pretty much done

The crowds in the cinema would seem to disagree with this, but it was a wet weekend and there's been a lot of hype about this film.

IdleJon
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The crowds in the cinema would seem to disagree with this, but it was a wet weekend and there’s been a lot of hype about this film.

I just mean the next phase is going to be hard to follow, it'll be another 4 or 5 years until it's even out, you're going to have them trying to sell a new Bond (or whoever) and do they do another reboot as per Casino Royale, it worked first time, but what appetite for another redo?

I just see the market getting bigger with this stuff, and now having to start afresh, it's not going to be easy to follow the Craig era.

She did say "Did you think they'd retire the number" that being 007. She then handed it back and he had 007 to the titles. She was still a 00 so must have had another number.

Personally I'd retire the franchise there.

The links to OHMSS are strong

The uphill drive at the end looks like it was along the road where Diana Rigg bought the farm but in the opposite direction. Although the lay-by has been surfaced now and there's a decent crash-barrier.

Yes that's my anorak there!

I've been talking to a colleague through the day about the film. He went to see it twice over the weekend. We've both realised how little of the film made sense once you start thinking about it. 😀

Yeah, favourite moment was the whole Blofeld scene, being brought out like a prize on bullseye and then the mess that then occurred to support the plot