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[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17884897 ]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17884897[/url]
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Posted : 29/04/2012 9:15 am
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Apart from airliners, who are they planning on shooting down?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:17 am
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Just park a Type 45 in the Thames 🙂

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:19 am
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Yes. Seriously.

A thread without any info on its content in the title or OP.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:20 am
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I believe this is called 'security theatre'.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:25 am
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Yes. Seriously.

A thread without any info on its content in the title or OP.

But strangely, a hyper-link you can click on which will tell you all you need to know.

What will they think of next? 🙄

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:25 am
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I'm too busy for that shit zokes 😛

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:28 am
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Slightly worrying, but hey ho.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:31 am
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I'm too busy for that shit zokes

Apparently not. 😕

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:31 am
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I've offered up my shed as a command centre

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:38 am
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'security theatre'
What, "theatre" as in people playing out scripted fantasies loosely based on real life ?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:38 am
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Just park a Type 45 in the Thames

HMS Ocean is going to be parked in the Thames - the only operational T45 that is available would be
HMS Dragon, and they've got other stuff on

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:39 am
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as far as you know...
there's a type 46 parked in my fish tank

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:42 am
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They really are using every opportunity to create fear to rule by.

I can't decide if this is any worse than labour putting tanks outside airports.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:44 am
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Just park a Type 45 in the Thames

There is one on the mersey now, should I be worried? 8)

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:45 am
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[u]They[/u] really are using every opportunity to create fear to rule by.

Who are "they"?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:49 am
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The lizards, obviously.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:50 am
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Understood.
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Just park a Type 45 in the Thames

There is one on the mersey now, should I be worried?

No - The Matlows should be more worried about the locals nicking anything that isn't bolted down!

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:53 am
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Who are "they"?

The government, quite obvious really, who do you think gets to make decisions about placing missiles on apartment blocks.

 
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as far as you know...
there's a type 46 parked in my fish tank

Good point - I forgot about the Lego one on my desk at work!

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:55 am
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Posted : 29/04/2012 9:56 am
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The government, quite obvious really,

That's a relief as I thought it might have been party specific.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 9:57 am
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That's a relief as I thought it might have been party specific.

Are you really so dumb to have not noticed that I compared the current band of clowns in charge with the last band of clowns.

But keep trolling away.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:01 am
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But keep trolling away.
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Posted : 29/04/2012 10:01 am
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Apart from airliners, who are they planning on shooting down?

Iranian MiGs

The Olympics will provide them with a hard to resist opportunity in their quest for world domination.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:03 am
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Iranian planes wouldn't make it out of Irania before they were shot down.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:08 am
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Could they bring down a suicide-bombing muslamic swan, from muslamia ?

I think that's my major fear right now

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:16 am
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Matlows

Matelots!
* whistles Matey bubble bath tune.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:17 am
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Could they bring down a suicide-bombing muslamic swan, from muslamia ?

I think that's my major fear right now

A swan fitted with Muslamic ray-guns?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:18 am
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Iranian planes wouldn't make it out of Irania before they were shot down.

Damn. That shoots my theory to pieces then.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:20 am
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Damn. That shoots my theory to pieces then.

I'm not quite sure that's the purpose of an SAM, but whatever works for you... 😆

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 10:23 am
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I think our security forces have been on the X Box playing Call Of Duty 😉

I mean really, if a bloke with a rucksack wants to blow up loads of people in a public place how exactly is a surface to air missile supposed to help?

Or if another bloke with a Stanley knife hijacks a plane, they'll blow it up with a missile- bringing it down on a load of houses.

Retards..... 🙄

 
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........how exactly is a surface to air missile supposed to help?

It keeps everyone on their toes. It's important to keep everyone on their toes.

It shows we mean business.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 11:16 am
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It shows we mean business.

[img] http://www.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article677281.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/David+Cameron [/img]

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 11:24 am
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😆 @ Captainflashearts pic 😀

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 11:36 am
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Or if another bloke with a Stanley knife hijacks a plane, they'll blow it up with a missile- bringing it down on a load of houses.

Truly an incisive summary of anti-aircraft operations. Thank you. Will you be on Question Time this week?

I applaud:

- The tin foil hat fear brigade. You make me feel less mad. I wish I could make you feel safer, but I doubt anything would ever do that for you.

- The armchair experts who suddenly have a valid opinion on providing security for the biggest international event ever to have taken place in the UK.

Your country needs you all and I thank you for your sacrifices so far.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 11:52 am
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A swan fitted with Muslamic ray-guns?

None of the messing around just breaking your arm, they can now vaporise you?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 11:54 am
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Will you be manning any surface-to-air missiles during the Olympics TooTall ?

If so, I did liked to thank you and all those involved in [i]"anti-aircraft operations"[/i] during the Olympics.

It's thanks to guys like you that I can sleep at night.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 11:59 am
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The lengths they go to stop cheating at these Olympics, the pole vaulters and high jumpers better be weary!

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:08 pm
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errrrrrrrm, last time they did a "test scenario" ❓

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:09 pm
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Will you be manning any surface-to-air missiles during the Olympics TooTall ?

Nope - not my job. I didn't think you slept anyway, Ernie. I thought your horsehair shirt would prevent that sort of capitalist indulgence.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:29 pm
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.....would prevent that sort of capitalist indulgence.

Sleeping is a capitalist indulgence ? Thanks for the tip fella.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:30 pm
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Now you need to stay in role, Ernie. We won't be able to tell that you are the persecuted if you don't keep it up.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:35 pm
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At least the residents of the building should have good security during the Olympics! Not sure it will be appreciated by their insurance provider in return for a discount though.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:47 pm
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London on a normal day:

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Olympics are coming

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Posted : 29/04/2012 12:55 pm
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So tootall - as none of us can see what these missiles would be for would you tell us?

Just who or what would they shoot down?

 
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We won't be able to tell that you are the persecuted if you don't keep it up.

Well I've never felt the need to claim that I've been persecuted TooTall ........ do you think I should ?

Perhaps I should start by claiming that I'm being denied the right to sleep ?

Seriously mate, wtf you on about ?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 12:57 pm
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I thought you had been nailed to a cross Ernie? Isn't that what they do to carpenters who annoy the powers that be?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:00 pm
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Who or what is going to protect us oop north, with all the militry down south, god time for an invasion i think.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:01 pm
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During WW2, the island in the middle of the Firth of Forth was all dressed up to look like a battle cruiser (or something).

Surely with modern technology we could harness some of the Blitz Spirit and fake up a Death Star above London ??

 
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I thought you had been nailed to a cross Ernie?

I came back.

It's a little trick of the trade known only to messianic woodworkers.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:05 pm
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It's a ploy to let our athletes win at javelin, discus and hammer events. The missiles will vaporise the oppositions thrown objects leaving our plucky athletes to clean up.

 
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Some time ago I read that the Yanks insisted on surface to air missiles rather than it being a British idea. Supposedly, STA missiles have been deployed at most Olympics, so this may be nothing new. Warship in the Thames and outside Weymouth for the yachting may be a response to the new world order. If a lone swimmer can disrupt the Boat Race, who knows what others may have planeed for the Olympics? Also, remember that there has been an appeal for extra blood donations....

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:16 pm
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Also, remember that there has been an appeal for extra blood donations....

Hasn't this idea been dropped now that Contador's staying at home? 😐

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:19 pm
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Sounds like Starstreak

Last ditch point defence weapon against an under the radar screen aerial attack. If I was thinking of doing ambush marketing over london in a microlite I'd think again

 
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It's a little trick of the trade known only to messianic woodworkers

messianic woodworkers!?! coming over here. stealing our jobs.
get back to messiania where you came from.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:28 pm
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Remember when they parked tanks at Heathrow?

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At the risk of stating the bloody obvious- this can be only one of two things.

The more innocent explanation is that it's a straightforward attempt to make people think they're doing all they can about terrorism, and that we should feel safe.

The less innocent explanation is that it's a straightforward attempt to make people feel like they're under threat from terrorism, and that we should feel less safe.

Up to you. Though, it's definately the second one.

 
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I suspect that pic by boba may be his last - if that's not a credible threat on London, I don't know what is 😆

 
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Imagine the H and Safety forms to fill in and the risk assesments, then there are toilet facilies alonfg with cooking facilites, sleeping bunks, and lots more, should keep an army of jobsworths in work for months.

What tyres for anti aircraft guns.

 
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Up to you. Though, it's definately the second one.

I strongly feel that it's a combination of the two. George Bush's administration were particularly good at cranking the fear of terrorism amongst the American public, whilst calmly reassuring them that they were completely in control of the situation.

get back to messiania where you came from

Not until I lead my people there - I'm still working on the parting of the waters trick.

Although sod it - I might just end up using the channel tunnel instead.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 1:55 pm
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Sorry ernie, thought that bit went without saying.

 
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I suspect that pic by boba may be his last - if that's not a credible threat on London, I don't know what is

my neighbors have complained about the Death Star in the back garden under a tarp and the suspicious amount of grey lego I get regularly delivered to complete my star destroyer

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 2:09 pm
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Think ahead people, the wider picture...

defensive measures on top of ugly tower blocks (probably with equally ugly residents), any attacking force will of course take out these defensive measures as a matter of urgency before securing air superiority...bye bye blot on the landscape tower blocks...

Just saying.

 
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Sorry ernie, thought that bit went without saying.

My mistake then, I had assumed that by saying "this can be only one of two things" you were suggesting it could only one or the other.

 
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Ah yes, messy wording, should have been "one of only two things"

Though, tbh I would say that the 2 are mutually exclusive, the approaches are too different even if the outcome is similiar- the former is simply about exploiting existing fear, the latter about creating it in order to exploit it.

Which, ironically, is terrorism 😉

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 2:32 pm
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What's the problem with having it there just in case? People would only complain if someone attacked and it hadn't been thought of.

The problem is that a lot of non-military people think that the placing of weapons in an area is always a sign of an ulterior motive as opposed to a bunch of blokes in uniform missing out on weekend leave.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 2:57 pm
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The lengths they go to stop cheating at these Olympics, the pole vaulters and high jumpers better be weary!

They'd better not be too [i]weary[/i], they'd not win owt! 🙂

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 3:07 pm
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On a similar theme to guided missiles, does anyone know if GPS is still going to work in London during the Olympics?

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 3:15 pm
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On a similar theme to guided missiles, does anyone know if GPS is still going to work in London during the Olympics?

Missiles would be pretty useless if it wasn't.

 
Posted : 29/04/2012 3:37 pm
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Missiles would be pretty useless if it wasn't.

Again I've heard that [url= http://www.rovio.com/ ]Rovio[/url] might somehow be involved in the weapons' operation, so lack og GPS not a problem.

 
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Just who or what would they shoot down?

If everything works properly, nothing. If not, any airborne threat.

Imagine the H and Safety forms to fill in and the risk assesments, then there are toilet facilies alonfg with cooking facilites, sleeping bunks, and lots more,

Amazing. Tell me more. 😐

 
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If everything works properly, nothing. If not, any airborne threat.

I think the question is asking what form this "airborne threat" might take. Care to make a suggestion, or is it stretching the imagination too far ?

Personally, like most people, I struggle to think of many examples of airborne terrorist threats. Or why they should apply only during the Olympics - I haven't heard of permanent deployment of SAM missiles over London to counter possible terrorist threats, despite the fact that most terrorist attacks occur outside the Olympics.

 
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As ernie says.

A hijacked airliner? would they really shoot it down over london. a fighter plane from the east? Surely dealt with befoe it gets to london or again would they really shoot it down over the city?

 
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Just who or what would they shoot down?

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I read this yesterday and from the description its Bow Quarter which is about a mile from me 😯

 
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A hijacked airliner?

Why not? Assuming that it would be possible for a terrorist to hijack one, I can't think of any instance where an airliner has been hijacked. Can you?
Assuming it is possible then, might it be possible for them to crash it into a stadium containing 50,000+ people?
Wouldn't shooting it out of the sky and killing a couple of thousand be a bit better?
And which bit of "last resort" do yuou have problems with?
It's probably all just a very visible deterrant with the real stuff being well hidden, IMVHO.

 
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YOu really think a government could shoot a hijacked airliner down over a city?

 
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sigh, standards are slipping around here.... a full 1 1/2 pages before

What tyres for anti aircraft guns.
was posted.... shame on you all 🙂

That said, worry not about the tyres - the locals will have it up on bricks before breakfast 😉

Besides - any terrorist with sense will be up north, out of the way of all the police..... create an 'event' thus causing a freaking great panic as our defences have to rush north.... thus leaving the door open a touch wider down south - classic diversion tactics.....

 
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what form this "airborne threat" might take

Anything from a remote drone (just like the one being 'reverse engineered' in a certain Middle East country) to a hijacked aircraft of any size.

Missiles have range and you have defence in depth, not one layer.

most terrorist attacks occur outside the Olympics.

Correct. But get it right during the Olympics, with billions watching and hundreds of thousands attending, you hit the Big Time. Every Olympics has a massive security effort - this is just the latest.

 
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