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.....infact no pudding for any of you
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45623746
Puddings should be banned from school meals if the Scottish government wants children to be healthier, say dentists.
The Faculty of Dental Surgery of the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Glasgow wants excess sugar to be cut from school dinners.
It said that about a third of children suffer from dental decay, while three in 10 are overweight or obese.
Ministers say they will "carefully consider" the response to a consultation on the matter.
The faculty wants to see puddings taken off school lunch menus and replaced with soup or fruit, and is opposed to the idea of including sugar-free drinks on the list of permitted drinks for secondary school.
Faculty Dean, Prof Graham Ogden, said: "We fully support the positive intention of these proposed regulations, but we feel that the Scottish government should take a bolder approach if it's to ensure that our young people have the healthiest possible start in life.
Exclude diet drinks
Prof Ogden added: "For example, we all agree that children should have greater access to more fruit and vegetables as part of their school day, but increasing access does not necessarily increase consumption.
"The guidance must include an evidence-based plan to ensure any increase in provision also ensures that our young people consume larger amounts of healthier food during school meals.
"We also know that diet drinks cause dental erosion, in addition to being a gateway to sugar. We should aim to ensure that our children's oral health gets off to the best possible start in life."
The faculty, which represents more than 1,000 dentists and trainees, has also called for action to ensure that all children and young people have access to facilities in schools to brush their teeth after meals.
The Scottish government said it would consider the faculty's comments along with other responses received to make school food and drink healthier.
A spokesman said: "We want to make sure every pupil is equipped with the skills, knowledge and experience they need to make better health choices and live longer, healthier lives.
"This commitment is supported by a package of measures including Curriculum for Excellence and Better Eating, Better Learning.
"Schools have a key role to play but it is vital that we all provide consistent messages to children and young people as they learn how to take responsibility for their own health and wellbeing."
What kind of sick bastard has soup for dessert? Fruit is a great idea, but soup, for dessert. That’s just madness.
Pudding is one of life’s small pleasures. How come kids weren’t all obese in the 80’s? Fair enough we were all hyper from the pink custard I suppose.
Miserable bastards, cos school just isn't shit enough
Hmmm, why have pudding in the first place?
I can’t ever remember having pudding at school, and don’t really partake to this day.
Seems like a pointless addition, just make decent healthy meal and make enough of it.
The dentist’s are right, but they ought to stand by their recommendations and include Fizzy drinks that are full of sugar or chemicals as well.
Makes note to keep an eye on bikebouy*
How come kids weren’t all obese in the 80’s?
We were running around building dens and looking for hedge porn. We needed the extra calories.
Hmmm, why have pudding in the first place?
You ****ing freak, I bet you are one of those miserable bastards that just eats an energy bar at the cafe stop arent you!!!
Can’t be arsed with pudding at home, I’m usually too stuffed to be able to eat any more, plus it just more washing up and extra preparation for my g/f, she’s a far, far better cook than I could ever hope to be, plus she enjoys it, I don’t get much further than stuffing something in the microwave!
However, if I go out for a meal, I do try to keep a little space put by for pudding, just because.
How come kids weren’t all obese in the 80’s?
They were but no one cared.
The dentist’s are right, but they ought to stand by their recommendations and include Fizzy drinks that are full of sugar or chemicals as well.
The same fizzy drinks that have been had the sugar reduced gradually over recent years and now have a sugar tax?
Who needs pudding, I've just had a giant bowl of chips.
Pink blancmange with skin on....rice pudding and jam....roly poly and custard....slurp...
What kind of sick society have we created....!!!
If you saw what the kids get served on a daily basis, the lack of pudding is the least of their worries. I am convinced that the school canteen is trying to go out of business with a bland and repetitive menu. They do sell Cobbs Empire biscuits, which contain more sugar than 2 cans of Coca-Cola, and does not strike me as a healthy choice. Not ones with cherries on though, as the cherries cause too much of a mess when taken off the biscuit and thrown on the floor. I know....
Your letter was only the start of it?
I love pudding. I’ll often ride my ebike to buy some if we run out.
Always a pudding hole.
If there are budgetary constraints on eating out I always skip the starter and keep the pudding. A society without pudding is one I don’t want to live in. Must we suck every last ounce of fun from life?
Aw how quaint prof Ogden's kiddie winkles must go to an awfully nice school.
Here it's a rampage to chippies and Lidl at lunchtime our canteen can seat about 150 for a school of 960. In the 80s my chip roll was offset by me being one of the first at the chippie in fact I ate for free as I got chip rolls for about a dozen kids.
Scotland though... no, no, I'm not going to make a deep fried reference. Not me no.
[i]They were but no one cared.[/i]
Not round my way they weren't
If you really cared about the standards of pudding you'd join the pudding club, if you're not prepared to do that then you can't judge others.
How come kids weren’t all obese in the 80’s?
Could it be they didn't eat so many sweets or drink massively over-sweetened fizzy drinks? They should go before pudding does.
There's a Pudding CLUB?
Could it be they didn’t eat so many sweets or drink massively over-sweetened fizzy drinks?
Nope. Boiled sweets, 10p mix up, king sized mars bar and super sized cans of coke. School tuck shops sold all those now they sell only healthy snacks.
Yes there is DezB.
There’s a Pudding CLUB?
We're not really supposed to talk about it. It's the first rule.
Angel delight or instant whip if money was tight, these chocolate milk drinks only 1%fat so very healthy tastes like un set angel, almost forgot another favourite peach slices in proper del monte syrup
Are you people talking about the 1880s? I'd have thought by the 1980s it was all chemical-flavoured crisps and burgers.
The reason children have got fatter in recent years despite the widespread children's clean eating diet of smashed avocado on spelt and chia seed toast is that they've stopped smoking. Mark my words in a decade we will regret this. You only have to read the "what Audi estate" threads to realise that whereas back in the 80s you could get three children minimum on the rear bench seat of your Austin Metropolitan (including their mandatory afro or Lady Di hairdos) whereas nowadays they've bloated out to the extent that you have to grease them up good and proper to even get one in the back of your RS6. OK, a certain amount of that is accounted for by the ejector seat but I'm just saying. Lunch for a growing child should be ten Park Drive. Thread closed.
..pudding club
We’re not really supposed to talk about it. It’s the first rule.
I'm a bit of rebel.
How come kids weren’t all obese in the 80’s?
A lot of them grew up and are obese now, habits learned as a child catching up as they age maybe.
In the 80's most mothers stayed at home, now for most both parents have to work. Limited time to prepare healthy food at home compounds the problem of unhealthy foods at school.
How do you know if its Spotted Dick for pudding?
See if there is an odd number of stockings on the washing line. (Les Dawson)
A boy gets £5 pocket money and buys an apple for 25p an orange for 50p and some grapes for 75p.
How far south of the Scottish border does he live? (Frankie Boyle)
“We also know that diet drinks cause dental erosion, in addition to being a gateway to sugar.
Wait, what? Where have they got this from?
In the 80’s most mothers stayed at home, now for most both parents have to work. Limited time to prepare healthy food at home compounds the problem of unhealthy foods at school.
Is that correct ?
What about the latchkey generation where both parents did, as they do now, leave the household to go to work and the child/children let themselves back in after school and hoover the fridge/cupboards of anything remotely edable?
I’m not sure anything is different other than the attitude towards food, and the lack thereof. Parents of today remember the days of salad cream sandwiches or crisp sandwiches.. just because now there are more tasty morsels available, and they themselves buy them, just means there is more variety.. but the high fat/easy options are already packaged and easy to grab.
“We also know that diet drinks cause dental erosion, in addition to being a gateway to sugar."
Wait, what? Where have they got this from?
Phosphoric acid in cola drinks, citric acid in almost all other soft drinks
Phosphoric acid in cola drinks, citric acid in almost all other soft drinks
Sure, but still exponentially less bad than the full-fat equivalents? Are they really that bad?
And "a gateway to sugar"?
What kind of sick bastard has soup for dessert?
Mmm, strawberry soup.
Hmmm, why have pudding in the first place?
Interesting question; apparently there is a scientific basis, in that fruit/ wine based things help reduce the harmful effect of free radicals from eating red meat. Something like that, anyway.
And, of course, what passes for pudding in schools is a long way from that...
of course, what passes for pudding in schools is a long way from that…
Actual dessert menu from a school this week...
Monday: Coconut and Lime Panna Cotta
Tuesday: Orange, Melon and Mint Pots
Wednesday: Apple and Mixed Berry Crumble
Thursday: Mango and Lime Lassi
Friday: Banana and Toffee Loaf
meanwhile in Aberdeenshire
Monday: Eve's pudding with custard
Tuesday: Ice Cream with Fruit salad
Wednesday:Butterscotch cookie served with milk ( bearing in mind that butter is banned in Scottish schools so it will actually be a margarinescotch cookie )
Thursday: Chocolate saucy sponge served with custard (How is its saucy? The chocolate drops are shaped like breasts)
Friday: Homemade fruit muffin served with milk
Remembering that government guidelines state that where a lower fat alternative exits it must be used, so all dairy based products including the milk, ice cream and custard will be made using skimmed milk and the resulting loss in flavour will be made up for by adding a shit load of sugar.
Mmm, strawberry soup.
Looks like Angel Delight to me.
I’d banish chairs before pudding. Make kids write whilst walking at a leisurely pace on a treadmill (set with a 2.0 incline) with an inbuilt desk.
Bloody hell. I just found myself agreeing with something bikebouy said.
Sure, but still exponentially less bad than the full-fat equivalents? Are they really that bad?
Now this is a toothpaste site so caution should be used but it would seem that there isn’t much in it.
If there are budgetary constraints on eating out I always skip the starter and keep the pudding. A society without pudding is one I don’t want to live in. Must we suck every last ounce of fun from life?
It’s almost an industry!
Diet drinks make you fat by fooling your body into thinking you are having a load of sugar, mobilising insulin response and thus dropping your blood sugar level leading to eating more calories in total.
Whaaaaaaat?