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Yes, rode to Cosford to watch it
Welshpool international today..... ace.
Rode from stourbridge to cosford to see the vulcan today,what a spectacular sight.
Exactly what I did 😯
I was thinking about heading over to Welshpool today but had too much else on to fit it in. The Vulcan is supposed to be doing a tour of all the airfields where there are static Vulcans on display so its coming over Woodford, East Midlands and various other places more local to me, I think on the weekend of 27th - 28th June.
Guildford's hosting armed forces day in a couple of week's time; harbouring hopes it may fly over.
It seems I am the only one who will not regret the grounding of a large Aluminium triangular begging bowl.
How does their begging compare with that of the spitfire?
Houns,what bike were you riding?,only saw a guy on a silver trek near perton ridge.
Kinesis Pro6. I went Wordsley, Camp Hill, Claverley, Worfield, Beckbury
I still remember seeing one of these take off on full reheat at Biggin Hill air fair back in the day.
It managed to melt the end of the runway and stop the whole show for an hour or so while it was repaired....
We went prestwood, canal to wombourne,lanes and bridalways to perton,road through pattingham,bridalway round patshull park to albrighton cricket club.Two pounds to get in cheap beer and food and right at the end of the runway.
38 mile round trip.
[quote=Speshpaul ]Welshpool international today..... ace.
Missed the big beast. Well I didn't actually know the airshow was on. But was driving past Welshpool today on way back from CYB, and once I'd manage to work my way round the closed road I was planning on using (and which they wanted to divert me miles in the wrong direction) caught the Typhoon getting thrown around the sky, which was flipping excellent!
Cracking day at Welshpool today. There's something great about the small airshow, hillside backdrop and reverb of engines down the valley.
Such a shame to think that's the last time I may see her flying
I still remember seeing one of these take off on full reheat at Biggin Hill air fair back in the day.
It managed to melt the end of the runway and stop the whole show for an hour or so while it was repaired....
The Vulcan didn't have reheat.
I was working the show so got to see it. My work mate was telling me his great uncle got a 24 hour posting for barrel rolling that very aircraft when it was in service.
I thought doing a barrel roll was within the design specs?
I have to admit I was amazed at what the Typhoon did - hadn't realized they displayed like that. Where I was due East of the show seemed to be a great location as it came pretty close and we also got to see it coming head on and directly away so you could see the orange glow from the nozzles - that surely was on reheat?
Reheat would give a six or eight foot cone of fire emerging from the jet pipe. Vulcans didn't have it fitted although Concorde which used the same engines did.
The later Vulcans with the Olympus 301 engines were considered to be rather over powered as it was.
Flying over at Cossford yesterday
Not sure the ability to do a barrel role was within the design spec's as such - has no value as a tactical manoeuvre for a large bomber. I think it was the Avro test pilot getting a bit frisky one year at a Farnborough airshow, and I seem to recall from a documentary that he got a bit of a bollocking for it. I think he only did it once or twice. In anycase in theory any aircraft is capable of doing a barrel role so long as +ve G is maintained. Someone did a barrel roll in Concorde once and it certainly was not in that aircraft's design spec's.
I have fond memories of the Vulcans and Nimrods. I was an Apprentice at BAe Woodford and lived under the flightpath of the aerodrome as a kid when the Nimrods and Vulcans were there for refits, so became very used to seeing them flying over routinely. As an apprentice i heard lots of stories from some of the guys who worked on them. Seems strange when you see a Vulcan flying now and i've forgotten how commonplace it was.
One of the benefits of being an Apprentice there was bunking off my block release college course and going on-site and sitting on a grass verge next to the runway during the week ahead of the Woodford Airshow and watching all the aircraft practicing their display's. I often saw them do things they would not be allowed to do during a public display as there was always a lot of competition between the pilots from different airforces and countries. The Vulcans and Nimrods easily put on some of the most impressive displays even compared to the fighters, all of which had their wings severely clipped apart from the Russians. The SU27 Flankers always stole the show, but seeing a Vulcan pulling off some fighter like manoeuvres was always an impressive sight. Also the sheer noise and vibration from their engines, you could feel your internal organs vibrate when a vulcan came round on a low speed bank, to flatten out and haul the nose up to almost stand the thing on its tail and climb out. I fear the good old days of airshows of that caliber are long gone.
[url= https://goo.gl/photos/Tu1iAfs3cpQ27HwV7 ]My ropey cameraphone footage of the Vulcan at Southport airshow 2012.[/url] That was supposed to be its "last ever season" too.
The airshow commentary said that there are no spare parts, and not even the Avro blueprints survive, so each required part needs designing and fabricating.
Dunno whether Rolls Royce still support the Olympus. But I doubt it!
The apprentice and his instructor had to suffer a stern listening too whilst on the spiky chair.
I believe the correct RAF term is "an interview without coffee [b]or[/b] biscuits"
A barrel roll is a 1G maneuver if done correctly so perfectly within the capabilities of most aircraft whether it was in the spec or not.
I think it was Roly Falk who rolled the Vulcan at Farnborough airshow in the 1950's
A colleague at work, who knows his aviation stuff told me that the chairman of the charity was on 90K a year! (no facts to back this up mind)Unlikely if it is a charity since it's illegal for trustees to be paid (other than reimbursing expenses incurred)..
The audited accounts (2013) state that the chairman (Robert Pleming) resigned as trustee in November 2009 and is now CEO with a salary in between £70k and £80k. Wages and salaries as a whole come to £691k for 30 staff. That's up from 27 staff in 2012 with £609k on wages and salaries.
Unfortunately to fly a complex aircraft like the Vulcan you have to have the appropriate support structures in place to keep the CAA happy - two guys in a shed just wouldn't be acceptable.
Thats in no way attempting to justify some of the wages being paid though..
I believe the correct RAF term is "an interview without coffee or biscuits"
I believe the correct RAF term is "an interview with hat and without coffee" 😉
As a break from the Vulcan, I saw this flying the other day (not my video though)
Flipping beautiful!
Hoping to catch it this weekend 😀
[url] http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/675/82/V-Force-Tour-times.html [/url]
[url= http://www.vulcantothesky.org/news/710/82/Latest-on-National-Tour.html ]Farewell tour THIS WEEKEND[/url]
They are saying there will be a couple more flights in late October, but this is probably the last time the Vulcan will head North 🙁
Was coming back from 4 days biking in North Wales on Sunday, pulled into the Warwick services on the M40, hopped out the car just in time to see the Vulcan do a complete display just the other side of the motorway. Perfect timing!
3rd time I've seen it this year (and second complete surprise - flew over me while out walking in the New Forest too). Always get a thrill!
We went down to Gaydon to watch, loads of people parked on the bridge over junction 12 and the traffic stopped (over the bridge, not on the motorway) while she was doing her thing. 🙂
They are actively advising people NOT to go to Doncaster to watch it take off & land due access issues for the emergency services caused by the crowds.
Wonderful to think so many people are still interested in this 60 year old design!
Made my birthday this year to go and watch it at Bournemouth on the Sunday.
I'm working at Cosford on Saturday and we'll be stopping on purpose to watch it go by!
Will be a shame to see it stop flying but it's the best decision for safety.
The Vulcan is going for its final flight in the next half hour or so. Only a 15min flight for media to capture final landing 🙁
Blowing dust out of my screen
An engineering triumph. Unlike the livestream.
Livestream using '50s technology
It was going so well....
According to Youtube, she will remain airborne forever, so it's not all bad.
Well I hope they do a better job of the streaming for the next flight
Well I hope they do a better job of the streaming for the next flight
There isn't a next flight.
That was it forever. 🙁
Not really a surprise with the streaming, as soon as the XH558 twitter feed had that link in it it was probably doomed to fall over.
replay!
And thats all folks. 😥 😥
there's going to be one last short 'farewell flight' at short notice according to the newsletter they fire out on email
That was it
That commentary was absolutely cringeworthy. They should get him in for the next royal funeral.
Off in to the sunset....
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Don't you start!
That commentary was absolutely cringeworthy. They should get him in for the next royal funeral.
'And there goes The Duke of Edinburgh, executing a perfect banked turn....'
Commentary....yuck
I'd rather remember a Vulcan squadron doing 'scramble' take-offs...impressive
M6TTF - Member
there's going to be one last short 'farewell flight' at short notice according to the newsletter they fire out on email
They gave 30mins notice for a 15 min flight. How short notice were you after? 🙂
That commentary was absolutely cringeworthy.
I think he was a bit upset, like some of the engineers on the ground.
I agree, I think he was choking a bit
£100,877 per flight apparently
[url= http://planestv.com/live ]replay of the coverage[/url]
Only available for next 18hrs apparently
There is always someone taking photos on a bloody ipad!
CaptainFlashheart - MemberOff in to the sunset....
Look at that, just LOOK at it!
Nice picture in the Metro, page 2, with a pool of water in front of the Vulcan (presumably from those fire trucks) and the Vulcan reflected and framed within it.
Can see it on page 4 of the e-edition here but I couldn't find a larger version :
http://e-edition.metro.co.uk/2015/10/29/
A bit like this one but better framed :
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[quote=P20 ]replay of the coverage
Only available for next 18hrs apparently
It's an authentic experience with the same missing footage as if you watched it live 🙄
It's an authentic experience with the same missing footage as if you watched it live
Rather than record the original filming and use that as the template, they've recorded the actual stream of the feed. Epic fail.
Also, whoever was doing the periscope feed was apparently filming it on a cheap phone while bouncing on a trampoline. Seems a shame somehow that they had a brilliant 2-day tour and then the last ever flight is a rushed 15 minute sortie at ultra-short notice and with a total cock-up in the recording of it. 🙄
The reason for the short notice was because every man and his dog would have gone to the airport and clogged it up, meaning access for emergency services would have been very difficult. This would have in turn resulted in extra costs being levied at the Vulcan team for causing the issues, due to previous warnings.
The reason for the 15 minute sortie was, I understand, due to limited hours left on the airframe.
A bit of a damp squib to end the flying career of such an iconic plane.
crazy-legs - MemberSeems a shame somehow that they had a brilliant 2-day tour and then the last ever flight is a rushed 15 minute sortie at ultra-short notice...
like bigyinn says, it's all down to the legal limit of flight-hours on the airframe.
after the brilliant 2-day tour, they had 15mins left, so they thought 'why not?'
Yeah, I know all that it just didn't seem a very fitting end somehow. I know that had they actually announced anything, Doncaster would have been in total gridlock so i can see where they're coming from with regards to traffic considerations, the airframe hours etc.
I think the rather amateur filming contributed to a lot of the ill feeling around it - as bigyinn says, it was just a damp squib.
I don't mind either way, I've seen it display 3 times this year and several times in the previous 8 years - was just commenting on it.
CFH's picture wins this thread. 🙂
Only available for next 18hrs apparentlyPOSTED 20 HOURS AGO
Bugger
Having missed it all bloody year, coming across this thread again now seems somehow appropriate.
The rumor is that they are going to release an official DVD hence the rather rubbish footage that's been available so far.
There will also be some 4k footage released I believe.
They're not exactly selling me the DVD with the quality of the live feed and the re-live. Fine don't make it so good that nobody buys the DVD, but at least show the whole flight. Right now I'm not confident that the DVD will show the whole flight.
Unless they had some sort of following plane or 'copter, I'd be very surprised if a single camera position on the hangar side of the runway, close to the terminal and hangars, would be capable of filming the whole flight. On the day of the Northern tour a couple of weeks back, she was met on return by a filmmaking helicopter who filmed a good few minutes of low level manoevres and a couple of turns arounf Finningley with some big wingovers. I'd hope these would be in a final issue DVD.
CFH's picture wins this thread.
Awww, shucks! 😳
Is it time for another cold war thread? I think it might be...!
Clearly I'm simply referring to that part of the flight visible from the camera position, which we've still not seen all of.
[url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-34712346 ]OOPS!! Hope it doesnt cost them a huge fine.....[/url]
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That 'video' looks like it's been poorly faked to me - sky seems to suddenly change as it supposedly rolls over
The BBC piece on the Vulcans retirement
Fairly obvious fake. Bunch of still photos proves nothing anyway.
If it actually had barrel rolled, it would have been picked up by dozens of other people too.
I feel quite sorry for the VTTS guys. Every time they flew, their Twitter and Facebook would fall over under the weight of people slagging them off because the flight wasn't over their house or there wasn't enough notice or...or...
Now it's retired, people are still having these little digs and pops at them. 🙁
"their Twitter and Facebook would fall over"
The point with Twitter and FB as media outlets over VTTS's own website is they don't fall over. They're definitely at the 'scalable and resilient' end of the spectrum.
What would happen is that the density of people attending airshows would break the mobile carrier infrastructure in that area which made it really hard to follow aircraft plans during the show.
Some moment:
Guy Martin 1930 on 4!!