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I'm never really sure why Incesticide is overlooked. My favourite Nirvana album by far. This is just fantastic
Good to see Swervedriver mentioned above. A closely related band Skyscraper are also too often overlooked
....that's Aneurysm above if anyone wants to embed it properly for me. Why can't I get it to work?
In an Aeroplane Over the Sea by Neutral Milk Hotel is one of my favourite albums. It's super good.
Another Incesticide fan here, probably my most listened to Nirvana album.
I too remember the 1st listen to Bleach. Parents out. Secretly using Dad's stereo. Playing About a Girl about 57 times. Complaints from neighbours when folks got home.
Foos' 1st album is great, however every album since has sounded exactly the same as each other. I like the White Limo track from the new one though.
Love Soundgarden and Pearl Jam, never got into Alice in Chains though.
Nice to see a mention of the shockingly overlooked Therapy?. Without getting into a High Fidelity list situation, they'd be in my top 5 bands.
EDIT: For whippersnapper
Incesticide - probably because it's a compilation.
[i]A closely related band Skyscraper are also too often overlooked[/i] They were good. (Previously called Milk too) I've got most of their stuff.
They played to about 20 people in my local venue and the bassist walked off because of the apathy of the crowd, most of whom were sitting on the floor. The singer asked for someone to take over, but just as I stepped on stage the bassist re-appeared. Bugger!
A compilation yes, but not in the typical sense. As in most of the tracks aren't on their other albums.
thanks for the video Verses, what am I doing wrong?
....it was an official compilation, not like the many bootleg Nirvana compilations. Still, some of them have some amazing tracks as well, D7 being one of them (i'd link that too if I had any skills)
I just copied the address from the browser's address bar when watching the video normally on YouTube.
I think you'd tried to be [i]too[/i] clever by grabbing an embedded address from somewhere.
bleach is excellent.
much more excellent than the rest.
but you need nevermind in your cd collection to keep the old student indy kids happy at parties. its so lame.
Nirvana would have been long forgotten if he hadn't topped himself. I mean they were pretty good but nothing special at the time. One successful albumn does not make musical genius.
Anyway ....... I've posted it before, and I'll post it again
What became of Jane's Addiction?
Troublegum by Therapy is one of my all time favourite albums.
Nevermind is a seminal album, it was the album that brought grunge to the masses, I haven't listened to it for a long time though as I felt that the songs had become over played and too familiar.
I saw Skyscraper a few times at little club gigs in london and a couple of times locally to me. Very good band I thought, never managed to track down there second album though.
No mention yet of Catherine Wheel who were a fantastic band, mixing shoegazing and grunge with great chorus too. They were also great live.
As we've stumbled into brit grunge territory its only fair to bring up Bush how despite being labelled (unfairly IMO) as nirvana clones were also very good.
There was also Headswim too, another great brit band that died on its arse with no label support over here.
I was a big Blast First fan. Loved Dinosaur, best gig I saw was Dinosaur at the Venue in Embra. J blew his amp (third in 2 days) setting up for the soundcheck. They sound checked on stage and did Smoke on the water, Minor Threat, Sweet Child o Mine and Barmy Army (I think - J was a big Exploited fan). Lou kept belting out the bassline to Gigantic. Brilliant stuff.
I was a mega Sonic Youth fan too.
Also liked early Mudhoney. They seemed nice guys (from Aberdeen too, but in the pacific north west). Big Black and the horrendously named Rapeman too. Butthole Surfers - Locust Abortion Technician still gets an airing now and again.
Nobody's mentioned Killdozer yet. I loved them. 3/4" Drill Bit came up on the mp3 player the other day. I still love that track. Or Swans. same time as SY. Loved the shear power of the antagonism.
Also, but a bit earlier, is the Minutemen. Double Nickels on the Dime is one of the finest albums ever made. D Boone RIP. And lets not forget Minor Threat (okay these are Hardcore).
I still stick to Bleach being Nirvana's best album. Its probably the only one I still have. Had to dig it out to put on Negative Creep the other month as it was whirling through the grey stuff demanding to be heard.
S'all good people.
I was the right age to be into Nirvana (16 in '91) but they never really clicked with me. I was Pearl Jam and Faith No More, though, but then Nirvana fans were always sniffy about Pearl Jam. They are a more traditional rock band that just happened to come from the Seattle area the same time that the grunge scene developed there and the media applied the grunge label to them incorrectly, or so I gather.
I eventually bought Nevermind and In Utero, many years after the fact. I listen to them occasionally but they don't do much for me. To my ears, Smells Like Teen Spirit sounds over produced, with the rawness it seems to want to have smoothed out by the production. I suspect that this is what helped it become the massive mainstream hit that it was, but for me it maybe prevents me from really clicking with it.
I wanted to like Pearl Jam, but Eddie Vedder's voice gets on my tits.
but Eddie Vedder's voice gets on my tits.
Right! Outside NOW!
😉
Come as You Are is better than Eighties
well seeing as you prefer kiddies pop to proper music this is just for you DezB
The dicks and 7seconds were top banana as well
and not forgetting the mighty Gorilla biscuits
Nirvana at the time were causing a massive buzz pre- nevermind. Remember Peel playing Teen Spirit few weeks before their Reading 91 appearance and them tearing it up (was in the pit for that). there were loadsof good bands about. Therapys first 2 mini albums (they went shit when they changed drummers), rollins band , no means no, hole ,babes in toyland, Th faith healers, sonic youth, tool. Other brit bands like senser, swervedriver, silverfish (f'kin awesome), leatherface, snuff.
Jesus Lizard were off the chart (Liar), Big Black/Rapeman , Helmet.
Bleach is raw as ****, typical sub pop.Would have loved to have heard In Utero in its Albini incarnation which was apprently unlistenable. Nirvana had something AT THE TIME that the other bands just didnt have - saw em live a few times and wouldnt have said they were ever that good. Not the best band ever but did alter the face of music for the masses (couldnt have done it without mudhoney, dinosaur jr etc paving the way)
Reading the following year - full of the general public all having a sing along - very shit indeed.
verses - Member
but Eddie Vedder's voice gets on my tits.
Right! Outside NOW!
Sorry, but I feel the same about Vedders voice.
I remember hearing Negative Creep for the first time round a friends house when I was about 14 and thinking it was the best thing ever. My mum, however wasn't best impressed after i copied it onto a tape played it over and over and over.
I still listen to Nirvana occasionally now and everything still feels as raw and fresh as it did twenty years ago and that is why, in some respects, the critics are right in believing they were one of the most influential bands in recent times.
Tazzy - gorilla biscuits - class
saw CIV at Manchester boardwalk and it was immense. 3 foot high stage , back when no barriers , fans on stage - christ !!!
I used to and still prefer The Lemonheads
runs for cover
any other flipper fans out there in grunge land?
i was never a 'massive' nirvana fan, for me pearl jam, alice in chains, soundgarden and stone temple pilots were way better. but i think bleach is better than nevermind.
i'll never forget my mate bringing pearl jam's TEN round my house and both of us constanltly playing it, i was 16 at the time and we both thought WTF is this!!!!
... i can see the whole raw thing of nirvana, i saw them twice live and they were dire, but i think they were very hit and miss live. pearl jam live on the otherhand are great musicians (the MTV unplugges is epic - (so is nirvanas to be honest haha 😉 and still one of the best gigs ive ever seen was stone temple pilots old scott was totally off his head!
alice in chains did a more mellow album 'jar of flies' thats worth a look if you havent heard it.
i had pearl jams 'given to fly' blasting on the ipod in the car the other day!
Therapy? mention above too, saw them on tour last year, bloody
brilliant has as much energy as when i saw them 12 years earlier!
maybe im getting old and have my rose tinted specs on but most of the music around these days is utter sh*te!
I remember this
"Bleach" got me into Nirvana
to be honest the hype around Nevermind ruined it and I went back to listening to Mudhoney
Does this qualify, not grunge I suppose? certainly of that time I recall.
No mention of the Smashing Pumpkins yet? To me, they were the greatest band of the 90's, though Nirvana/Pearl Jam/Alice in Chains/Mud Honey/Sonic Youth [i]et al[/i] were all way up there 🙂 What a track this is though, absolutely flawless!
silverfish -ha ha.....memories.
anyone remember DRIVE from Wigan (Mega City 4's mates), and Jacobs Mouse with singing drummer
Siamese Dream is the perfect album - chamberlains drumming is a piss take. Soon after Corgan disappeared up his own arse, surfacing breifly to assist Courtney Love with some songs.
I could never get to grips with Sonic Youth, their alter ego Ciccone Youth did some stuff I could cope with.
Siamese Dream is the perfect album
Agreed... 🙂
I love nirvana, I love pixies and tool too.... loads of great bands out there, but I have to admid that Nirvana just have that something, Im not sure why but it just engages on a much deeper level , that sounds so crap but for me nobody hits that spot like nirvana, I guess thats what all this music 'speaking' bullshit is about- Pixies have great LPs, Kurt only mentioned the pixies when asked his inspiration for teen spirit, he said he wanted to write a pixies track....... I dont think he had these aspirations, he just wanted to make his music and probably didnt look at others, i'd guess this was his sarky way of making a joke about music reporters...... but I actually like all of Nirvanas LPs, they are all different, bleach is raw, nevermind is nicely produced and has an almost classic tone about it, in utero is interesting is so strange, so undone and yet so 'nirvana'. I couldn't pick a favourite. Best thread for a long time STW.
ah yes, Buffalo Tom and the Vase-lines... how could i forget.
Or My Bloody Valentine. What was that kinda crossover ep they had that kinda went mega for a bit? That was good!
And the first Galaxie 500 album. Man I loved that soooo much at the time.
Sugar:
Beaster and Copper Blue
Bob Mould showing the young 'uns what grunge was all about...effortless
no Tad fans?
Marginwalker, had a silverfish and a Jacobs mouse ep 🙂
Some great bands and memories mentioned here. Loved the whole era.
The Descendents/All
The Posies
Black Market Flowers
Black Flag
Urge Overkill
Kyuss
Screaming Trees
With the mention of Soundgarden it would be good see them play live this year for old times sake. Maybe Download? Just to hear the opening to 'room a thousand years wide' who knows!?
Regarding the other posters on here regarding Dinosaur Jr. I went to Reading 93. My first ever festival. It was possibly the loudest band ive ever heard. right at the front and it was amazing. I also remember being transfixed by Mike Johnson playing bass with bleached white hair and him looking very tall!
They just blew my mind.
Ahh Kyuss, now theres a band. I saw the Kyuss Lives show last saturday at Kentish Town forum and they were absolutely fantastic. No Josh Homme but other then that the original line up, best gig I've been to for a long time 8)
For me a band that are just as exciting as Nirvana are System of a Down . Although they have now split they have a number of brilliant albums and Serje no has some great stuff coming out.
just as awesome yet a little tamer
some gems being posted here, i saw Silverfish,Chumbawamba and Fugazi in an amazing triple bill in the Barras in 92. Lived in Germany in 91 and my girlfriend at the time was heavily involved in the local hardcore scene to the extent that we used to house bands who were touring europe on a budget.
had the following crashed at our place during the summer of 91:
Gorilla biscuits, snuff,chumbawamba, No use for a name,Sick of it all, Alice Donut, Cro-Mags,and NofX.
i scored many a free gig entry and tour tee. good times indeed.
Oh and lets not over look the mighty Hard-ons. ozzie nutters!
tazzymtb - MemberCome as You Are is better than Eighties
well seeing as you prefer kiddies pop to proper music this is just for you DezB
Only just seen this. 😕
Maybe it was a joke, if so I don't get it.
regarding Dinosaur Jr. I went to Reading 93.
Was that the year that Lemonheads and Fishbone played? Good times.
There was a comedy tent and I saw Eddie Izard
The Hard-Ons!
Cripes. I haven't even thought about them since accidentally seeing them in Belgium. first time I ever stagedived - IIRC Mega City 4 were on the same bill.
[i]There was a comedy tent and I saw Eddie Izard[/i]
Vedder you mean? 😉
This thread has got me fizzin, listening to some stuff I havent touched in ages.
Also realised that both Jesus Lizard and Fvgazi are f'kin amazing:
Jesus Lizard - Live mouthbreather
Fugazi - Live Song#1
Jane's Addiction are ace! Like a modern day Led Zeppelin.
I saw them at Leeds Festival in 2002 and Manchester Apollo and both gigs were class. Might even be worth forking out the 80 odd quid 😯 to see them at Leeds this year.
Haven't seen them live, but tried to watch a live show on Sky Arts. Perry Farrell was such a knob-end I couldn't watch it all! Wearing a black glittery outfit waving a bottle of wine around or something.
Guitar on that new track is great though eh?
He's a rockstar Dez! A bit of flamboyance always goes down well and the red wine thing is a bit of a trademark. 😉
I do quite like the new song, and the last album was great too. The guitars are great on this:
Too right - Strays probably my fave rock album of the last x years 🙂
(x = 10?)
Janes addiction are fab, saw them many years ago 3rd on the bill to creaming jesus and fields of the nephilim. Pigs in zen is still one of my fave tracks ever
Early stuff worth exploring? Always thought they were a bit inconsistent so never bothered going back to Ritual or earlier.
new Jane's Addiction, good stuff. I agree Strays in an excellent album.
The early stuff is great - Nothing's Shocking is my favourite album, better than Ritual IMO.
Holy thread resurrection!
Has anyone got the new Jane's album? Just got it for me birthday, and only given it a few listens so far.
What do you think?
Has anyone got the new Jane's album
heard it, but sadly, it does nothing for me. Oh Vienna.
(Yes, I know that dates me horribly)
Slimtubbing; I was right at the front for that gig; how disturbing was the lead singer of chumbawumba! Nun habit and a bloody crucifix....
4 pages and still no mention of The Breeders ?
I always felt that the grunge tag didn't sit well with Nirvana when measured against other grunge bands, such as Alice In Chains, Soundgarden and Pearl Jam. Their music was a lot more immediate and to the point. A lot less fret ****ery too. I always felt that the band that suited the grunge tag best was Sonic Youth.
I think In Utero is the most representative of what Nirvana were trying to achieve. Nevermind always sounds too polished, and Bleach sounds like a band trying to be part of something they were not.
My favourite band from that age has to be Jesus Lizard. Id never given them a listen until I saw them 3 years ago. Best band I have ever seen. Incredibly intense from the second they walked on until they finished. Bunch of 50 year blokes showing younger bands how to play a rock show. Goat and Liar are definately worth a spin.
I am currently listening to Dinosaur Jr and Mission of Burma. Sebadoh are worth a listen, start with Bakesale or Bubble and Scrape. They are an acquired taste.
I like the Breeders, Last Splash is my favourite album. Still, I'd rather listen to the Pixies though.
Nickf - that's what I'm worried about, I wasn't too impressed with the the first few album listens, except for the singles I'd heard already.
Guess I'll have to see if it's a grower.
"I think In Utero is the most representative of what Nirvana were trying to achieve" +1
Pearl Jam, Stone Temple Pilots, alice in chains and soundgarden did it for me 😉
hels - Member
4 pages and still no mention of The Breeders ?
Never saw The Breeders as a grunge band. Pod is amazing though. I love the cover of Happiness Is A Warm Gun, and Im no Lennon fan and I dont like covers much either. Kim Deal always looks like she loves playing live.
Check out Senser - Age of Panic and then some of their other stuff - I absolutely loved their stuff around that era. Reminds me that I must listen to it again some time - it's been ages!
you lot may appreciate this:
http://www.dangerousminds.net/comments/kurt_cobain_talks_about_literature_and_life
oh and why no mention of The Amps?
I think the Breeders were on the Grunge continuum, veering towards Country it has to be said, but in there.
Saw them at the Big Day Out in Auckland in (er mumble) they blew all the other bands off the stage, pissed all over Soundgarden.
Senser +1
often played in the car before a bicycle ride
I forgot about the new Jane's album, will have to go find it
Senser's "Eject" is one of my hot faves, especially for riding.
Been listening to In Utero again a lot recently, really love "Tourettes" 🙂
I heard the Jane's album a few months back. Only listened to it once. Seemed very dull. My ears have moved on.
Seriously - 8 months ago I missed this thread, I have no idea how.
Nirvana, were great if they meant something to you at the time, now they are a talking point for most of the worlds music bores! Either listen and like or just leave it!
Grunge, was great, music moved on - I still want to go and visit Seattle though.
Anyone around that era surely got into Pantera then left grunge alone though right?
Mentions of Gorilla Biscuits and none of Rival Schools - the music 'fans' of this forum are dead to me, dead I say!
Pretty much any band from the early Sub Pop days/grunge scene outplayed them.
Well that's wrong for a start.
Nirvana blew Mudhoney and Tad away on the FudgePackinCrackSmokinSatanWorshipinMotherfickers tour. That was 1989, I think. I don't know how much earlier Sub Pop goes than that.
[i]Anyone around that era surely got into Pantera then left grunge alone though right?[/i]
Definitely not. Clichéd rock/metal bollocks blah!
Pantera?
Not on my watch, sonny!
+1 for Jane's Addiction
-1 for Strays or the new one (The Great Escape Artist) though - okay in places but they don't stand up to either Nothing's Shocking or Ritual (or the "live" first album).
Just as well Jane's can still cut it live, cos they've managed two albums in 20 years and neither of them are any good really.
Oh, and as a newbie who didn't see the thread originally - much mockery for the person who suggested a couple of pages back that the Pixies ripped their sound off from Nirvana - suggest you need to look at the chronologies of those two bands a little more closely and then ask who was ripping off who's sound there.
And, for the record, re. the original topic, my Nirvana albums in order of preference (not including bootlegs):
Bleach
In Utero
Incesticide
Unplugged
Nevermind
btw Jane's Addiction were never "grunge" if that even meant anything, ever.
mudhoney and jesus lizard on my phone for riding home.
it might be pissing with rain and windy as hell but i`m well up for it.
gorrilla biscuits - no we are getting somewhere.. minor threat anyone?
Yes to minor threat. Always felt it was a good name for a rabbit.