[Closed] Nirvana - Grunge Content

cos they only wanted to be like the Pixies

the only one worth bothering with is Nevermind. Bleach & In Utero are just meh

Because "Smells like teen spirit" is a seminal work. That's why 8)

when they are considered the epitome of the grunge scene?

Pretty much any band from the early Sub Pop days/grunge scene outplayed them.

john_drummer - Member

the only one worth bothering with is Nevermind. Bleach & In Utero are just meh

Yeah right... they sold out after Bleach.

I genuinely loved bleach, couldn't wait for never mind and when it finally appeared it was such a disappointment.

And then they got famous and people liked them so obviously they must be shite then...

maybe you are just too young?

They're a band that hit an exquisite balance point between different influences in rock / pop, IMHO, without sounding compromised.

Mixing Black Flag, David Bowie and The Who sounds like a good idea, but it's not necessarily a recipe for success. Nirvana pulled it off with ease - Cobain also has a superb voice IMO.

They got a bit whiny later on when it all got on top of him. Bleach and Nevermind remain exceptional.

"maybe you are just too young?"

I don't understand this statement, sorry!

Oh, and sc-xc - which bands do you reckon are better than Nirvana. I'm always keen to find new stuff.

iDave - 🙂 I like it!

Bleach was a fantastic album they were the bollox,

"maybe you are just too young?"

I don't understand this statement, sorry!

Nirvana, for me, have to be viewed in the context of the time. Nevermind was huge and caused some massive changes to how "alternative" music was viewed.

GG - obviously Mudhoney and Tad, but Screaming Trees and early Soundgarden as well.

Saw Nirvana a few times - from small clubs to big shit festivals, and IMO they were never great.

I was always int the crustier side though. BTTP, Citizen Fish/Culture Shock, Senser, RDF, Blyth Power etc so grunge probably not aimed at me.

In Utero is *the* grunge sound, IMO.

Best one worth owning (& incesticide...)

Watch this & you'll see why grunge was needed:
(and i say that as a DLR fan.....)

which bands do you reckon are better than Nirvana. I'm always keen to find new stuff.

mudhoney, melvins, nymphs, sonic youth, babes in toyland and jesus liazrd all come to mind pretty much straight away

sc-xc you missed subhumans of the list 😉

Thanks sc-xc, much appreciated. I like Mudhoney and Screaming trees etc - I'll look into the other bands you've mentioned.

anagallis_arvensis - I like the other bands mentioned from that period and was around then too. I guess I just don't like 'hype' or whatever.

In Utero always appealed most, what album should I start with then people?

They got a bit "navel gazey" for me after Nevermind and I kinda lost interest. Still regret not seeing them live at the QM union at the height of their popularity ('90/'91?, it's so long ago!).

I flipping love Subhumans tazzy. Anything with Dick is good with me. 😀

Yeah right... they sold out after Bleach.

Nevermind was the first album of theirs that I bought & it was amazing.
I bought Bleach & In Utero afterwards & was largely unimpressed. To this day they're all still in my CD collection but Nevermind is the only one that I play.

having said that I've been listening to Terrorvision a lot lately so it just goes to prove I have no taste 😉

Anything with Dick is good with me

that made me widdle myself with laughter!!

...and tazzy - teenage riot is my favouritist summer song. Had it on tonight whilst cruising in the [s]drop top[/s] Laguna

sc-xc if you like the crustier side of stuff have you heard any choking victim or leftover crack?

Dont overlook the Unplugged album either, amongst the best of the 90s IMO.

Actually that was a great couple of months for albums released back then. On consecutive weeks i ended up spending my paper round money on The Holy Bible - Manics, Portishead - Dummy, Definitely Maybe - Oasis, Grace - Jeff Buckley and Unplugged - Nirvana.

Nope Tazzy - but I am an old man now. My time was early 90's - and I'm afraid I have lost my edge.

I'll look them up now 8)

In Utero was their best IMHO.

Just putting all My Smashing Pumpkins onto Itunes - they were my favourite band of that era (still are nowadays as well..)

sc-xc you is probably sort of my era is as I have fond memories of early senser with fun da mental at ANL festivals in the early 90's 😀

Ah, Smashing Pumpkins, how could I have left them out? Absolutely fantastic.

Got into Nirvana after hearing Sliver on John Peel, and I think they got better and better after that.
In Utero can't be dismissed - Milk It - the Pixies based their whole sound on that!
Liked Mudhoney and Screaming Trees and Afghan Whigs, who kind of came from the same era, but the rest were sub-metal bands - Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, bleugh.
Last time I heard Nirvana, Heart Shaped Box came up on shuffle on my iPod, sounded brilliant, singing me head off while riding along!
Has there been any interesting guitar music since?

Has there been any interesting guitar music since?

Tool are amazing 😀

Only ever listened to Siamese Dreams, and really only for Cherub Rock.

Tazzy - yep. Remember Papa Brittle, Ye Fungus, The Sea, Dreadzone, Zion Train, Chumawamba (when they were still ace)...venues round here like the Kiddi Market Tavern, Goldwyns, Edwards, JBs etc

Happy memories of the free festivals back then. Dreads, piercings, big jumpers and cider. Nowadays it's shaved head, shiny shoes, suits and a job.

Been for a couple of tattoos with Joolz recently, good to chat about the good old days...still getting to gigs - just swapped the drug for a more legal one!

Dreads, piercings, gothy stuff and snake bite n black. Nowadays it's shaved head, shiny shoes, suits and a job.

quck edit... THATS ME

you is my brother from another mother!

"sub-metal bands - Soundgarden, Alice in Chains, bleugh."

Love both of those bands DezB, they're more interesting than a lot of metal bands, they have the heavyness, the musicianship and the melody that a lot of metal is missing I reckon.

I don't know half of these bands, I'm off to Spotify. 😳

Yeah, I guess musically they are more interesting, it's the vocals that put me off... Soundgarden - Plant copyist, Alice in Chains, well, Cobain copyist.
Anyone mentioned Nickelback yet 😆

Nickelback? Sticklebrick more like. 😉

mudhoney, melvins, nymphs, sonic youth, babes in toyland and jesus liazrd all come to mind pretty much straight away

Nirvana was fantastic.

Also try Daniel Johnson and Neutral Milk Hotel

I found Dinosaur Jr through Farm. some really good stuff.

Ah, how could I forget Dinosaur Jr too! Thanks Emz, I'll have to dig out the old cd's now...

to me nirvana were just not that original, couple of good tracks but nothing I'd get all moist over, all of the bands I mentioned were better musicians and for me and my tastes wrote far better songs, but hey you're entitled to your opinion.........but you are massively WRONG 😆

I ****in love Diamond Dave

Oh yeah, Dinosaur Jr. Love them. Green Mind.
Toadies, they're good.
Jesus Lizard did some right mean ol' stuff. Grr.

So, the consensus is, Nirvana are rubbish, but In Utero is the best album, except Bleach may be. Or Nevermind. But that's too popular.

😉

Nevermind.

So, the consensus is,

this is sillytrackworld....you will never find a consensus 😀

Maybe it's cool to knock Nevermind these days, but the impact it had at the time was huge. It brought this new grunge thing to a mass audience and kicked the somewhat stale rock scene of the early 90s up the arse. I still remember the first time I saw the SMTS video, blew my mind.

But is Nevermind worth listening to over BadMotorFinger or Dirt?

it's worth listening to

An album that opens with smells, then In Bloom, and then Come as you are, is definately worth listening to

I've got Mad Season on at the moment, can't beat a bit of Layne Staley's voice.

I'll give Nevermind a listen then.

I've got Mad Season on at the moment,

"wake up" is a fantastic song, shame they're all dead smack heads

Just to make you feel old, I was born in the same year it was released 😆

come as you are, is direct rip off from killing joke's eighties. Nirvana were being sued until someone deepthroated a 12 bore

There was an interesting episode of the culture show I think called No Nirvana which had some great bands featured. Pearl Jam did a version of Alive that I think has never been bettered, its just a cracking version with some stunning guitar work. I had it on VHS but alas it's vanished!

Tazzy, i just Spotified that track!

Oh MY GOSH!!!!

that's so blatant

funnily enough dave grohl played drums with killing joke post nirvana as well

just listening to in utero now. Absolutley amazing. As they all are...

*goes off to re-tune guitar to drop D...*

Love Alice in Chains and Soundgarden, but was never a Nirvana fan.

Just listening to In Bloom now. It's a canny tune like.

I rather liked this album as well

I'll get me coat 😳

[i]come as you are, is direct rip off from killing joke's eighties[/i]

which in turn was allegedly heavily based on Life Goes On from The Damned's Strawberries album...

make your own minds up...

nothing wrong with hole.

Exactly.

I'm always keen to find new stuff.

If you like Dinosaur Jr, I just got J. Mascis new album - loved the first couple of listens. Hope it keeps growing.
Also check out Sebadoh, and Lou Barlow's more recent solo album.

Other bands in the Grunge/punk/rock area worth a listen are L7, Swervedriver, Paw, Big Black, Shellac, Gas Huffer, Fugazi and Therapy?

FFS this is like reliving my life in the years I was not being a raver 😯
Never rated Nirvana fairly obvious he would do something like he did I thought at the time no big surprise though sad obviously. Not the best of the time but not shite either.
Mud honey christ years since I have heard their name let alone their stuff.

None better.

Nirvana were close for me - live and recorded.

Sebadoh - the steel HT of grunge?

Never really rated Nirvana, I bought SLTS as a cd single in Virgin on Sunset, in '93, just to have it, really, but much preferred Soundgarden, Mudhoney, Faith No More, Screaming Trees. Honestly don't know about Chris Cornell trying to sound like Plant, you could say the same about Mike Patton, the fact is they're all white guys with big voices fronting loud bands. I like Zeppelin, and I've seen them, and all the others I mentioned; I think the best singers are Patton and Mark Lanegan.
Once saw some lad at a gig with a tee with Cobain's pic on, and a caption that said;
“Kurt Cobain's dead? Nevermind.” nearly peed myself laughing.

I managed to ignore Nirvana right the way through the whole [i]Nevermind[/i] phase. Then I joined one of those awful CD clubs where you got the first six CDs free and they rape you for ever after.

All they had was the best of this, that and the other crap band, songs for driving, rock anthems and the like. But they did have [i]Bleach[/i].

I'll never forget the first listen - hot, sunny Summer's day (rare in Aberdeen). My parents had made me varnish the window frames in my room so the windows were wide open, the sounds of a suburban Summer drifting up to my teenaged ears.

Bam! Lovebuzz came on and it really was an epiphany - stopped painting, picked up the guitar and learned the whole album from start to finish in the space of a day. Got crapped on by my folks when they came home and found me unable to stand up, having spent eight hours straight kneeling in front of my amp, the windows unvarnished and a motley crew of small children under the window, some cheering, others shouting swear words.

Bliss.

sc-xc - Member

I was always int the crustier side though. BTTP, Citizen Fish/Culture Shock, Senser, RDF, Blyth Power etc so grunge probably not aimed at me.

and this, which brings back a lot of memories:

And as for Nirvana, it's like the Beatles:
Saying you don't like them is just a cry for help - everyone loves them really. 😀
'Unplugged' is the best album for me.

But is Nevermind worth listening to over BadMotorFinger or Dirt?

2 of my most favourite albums! .... Mmmmm going to stick rusty cage on loud tomorrow morning!

for old crustie types on here

one of the only decent things to come form stoke

Last week Nirvana came on in my car (I think it was In the Pines from Unplugged), as it was playing I drove past a church with a sign outside saying "Come As You Are". Cool, I thought.
Tried to explain it to my boy, but he didn't really get it.

"Come as you are" sounds like "Eighties"?
Someone taking a riff from one song and basing another song on it? Blimey! I bet that's never happened before in the history of rock music!
(eg. in case someone doesn't get the sarcasm)

Mr Soul is better than Satisfaction though. 🙂

Come as You Are is better than Eighties 🙂

Liked the music, they (Kurt) was terrible on 2 of the 3 times I saw them. First he was smacked up, second was drunk, third was late and only did three songs.

I was younger then, so I was less irate. These days if you pay to see a band I want somet for my money. Being able to say I saw them three times to 'grommets with kurt t-shirts born post 1990' is all I can add. Fast forward to seeing the Foo fighters at the first t in the park, huge improvement in performance 😉

Still like nevermind... where's my docs and long hair gone?

Foo Fighters? *Spit*

Didn't say I liked the FF, *spit* offered back 😉 was just a comparison