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Are you seriously suggesting that the SNP does not blame any of Scotland’s problems on the English and the Westminster parliament?
And are you seriously suggesting such a claim is on racial grounds ? Of course not, you know full and well blaming No10 for issues that cause harm to Scotland isnt anything other than their job.
Suggesting otherwise is a bit low, a cheap attempt at a counter.
So how about you stop trying to put your words in other peoples mouths.
Okay, since you accept that support for Nigel Farage is growing in Scotland what do you put that down to…. Scots becoming more racist in the last six months?
I heard a rumour that the Scottish muslamics were insisting that Irn Bru should be made using only halal sugar
Anyway, just seen that Reform PLC are holding a New Year rally in Leicester tonight, which hasn't gone down well with the locals. Frogface due to appear on stage about 8 if anyone feels the urge to throw a milkshake in his general direction
Anyway, just seen that Reform PLC are holding a New Year rally in Leicester tonight, which hasn’t gone down well with the locals. Frogface due to appear on stage about 8 if anyone feels the urge to throw a milkshake in his general direction
I'd love to see him paraded down Melton/Belgrave road having distributed copious amounts of rotten groceries amongst the residents.
And, as far as I know, tonight's venue is owned by a Sikh family.
Tangled old web, eh?
I’d love to see him paraded down Melton/Belgrave road having distributed copious amounts of rotten groceries amongst the residents.
I’m sure you would. That’s the issue with being a middle aged white man assuming others world view aligns to yours. I’ve a lot of business friends that end of town so please don’t assume on the reception.
Massie had this to say about Farage in 2015
Nigel Farage is a phoney. Scrutinise him and he’ll crumble
Instead of tearing into the preposterous Ukip leader, Britain’s famously aggressive media have made him a celebrity
Allow me to sketch you a portrait of a political leader. Even by the lax standards of the powerful, he is England’s greatest living hypocrite."
So perhaps he's not a fan.
I’m sure you would. That’s the issue with being a middle aged white man assuming others world view aligns to yours. I’ve a lot of business friends that end of town so please don’t assume on the reception.
Well my school friends from that end of town would give him a lively reception for sure.
Btw support for Reform UK is also significantly less in London than the rest of the UK. London doesn’t have many SNP politicians.
This isn't new. Voting has proven time and again that the most racist parts of the UK are the ones with the fewest 'foreigners.' London is one of if not the most multicultural areas in the UK, it shouldn't come as a shock that comparatively speaking RUK hasn't gained much of a foothold.
British culture and values.
What are they? I've always wondered.
British culture and values.
What are they? I’ve always wondered.
You are James O'Brien and I claim my £5 🙂
Yes he does always ask what they are and quite rightly as it will soon expose the bullshit once a caller tries to state what they are (which they never manage to do)
Elon's comments about Tommy Robinson are uncomfortable for our Nige.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7ve4m1q42vo
But he'll take his alleged $100 million.
Voting has proven time and again that the most racist parts of the UK are the ones with the fewest ‘foreigners.’ London is one of if not the most multicultural areas in the UK, it shouldn’t come as a shock that comparatively speaking RUK hasn’t gained much of a foothold.
With respect that isn't true. Racist candidates have always done better in areas with high levels of immigrants and ethic minorities than in areas which are predominantly white British.
Just look at where the BNP has had electoral success in the past, it wasn't the prosperous and white dominated Home Counties it was in industrial areas with high levels of poverty and ethnic minorities.
For example Nick Griffin was for many years MEP for the North West of England, not Surrey or Devon. At one point the BNP were the official opposition on Burnley council, Burnley is 20% ethnic minority.
The BNP has actually won a London Assembly seat in the past. London has some of the highest, if not the highest, social inequality in the UK, it should be very fertile ground for racist politicians to exploit. And yet despite that Reform UK does very badly in London relative to the rest of the country. In the general election in July I think Reform UK received 8.7% of the vote in London, which is not much more than the 7% (I think) they received in Scotland.
And as I have pointed out the SNP don't operate in London so I am not sure why TJ gives them so much credit for the lack of Reform support in Scotland.
British culture and values.
What are they? I’ve always wondered.
That's a difficult one but I am fairly sure that British values are not the same as the German values of the 1930s which Nigel Farage seems to be so keen on.
British culture is a little easier to define, it is now a multiculture which makes life far more interesting than the previous deary uniculture
It is one positive legacy of formerly having an Empire.
Elon’s comments about Tommy Robinson are uncomfortable for our Nige.
If ever two threads felt like crossing the streams....
With respect that isn’t true. Racist candidates have always done better in areas with high levels of immigrants and ethic minorities than in areas which are predominantly white British.
Just look at where the BNP has had electoral success in the past, it wasn’t the prosperous and white dominated Home Counties it was in industrial areas with high levels of poverty and ethnic minorities
The south east has the second highest immigrant population after London. The north west is mid table and the north east the lowest. Of course there are local pockets. I don't think it's a great measure. There's probably a closer correlation to wealth/ prosperity but still too broad a brush
He's on telly this morning with Laura Kuensberg, hope my TV doesn't melt.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigeln-farage-elon-musk-reform-b2674035.html
Well that hasn't taken long
Well that hasn’t taken long
Practicing for when he turns on Trump.
Is there any reason a South African ,Canadian, American can’t be PM?
I’m sure he could buy himself a seat.
He’s on telly this morning with Laura Kuensberg, hope my TV doesn’t melt
It’s the BBC. When is he NOT on it? I’m guessing he is the next host of Football Focus as well as being replacement for Greg Wallace.
Is there any reason a South African ,Canadian, American can’t be PM?
Not an American but south African or Canadian possibly - to stand for election as an MP (which you conventionally need to be to be PM although there have been exceptions prior to the 1900s) and to stand for election as an MP you need to be a citizen of the UK, Ireland, or be an 'eligible' commonwealth citizen. I'm not sure which commonwealth countries are or aren't eligible though . Seemingly you don't even need to be registered to vote in the Uk.... or even be resident in the UK!
That is ****ing hilarious! ( here’s the Guardian report )
Elon Musk has called for Nigel Farage to be replaced as Reform UK leader hours after Farage described the billionaire businessman as “a hero”, in what is likely to be a preview of how a chaotic Donald Trump presidency could affect British politics.
Farage, who is also the de facto ownerof Reform, “doesn’t have what it takes”, Musk said on X, the social media platform he owns, less than three weeks after the pair held seemingly warm talks at Trump’s Florida home. “The Reform party needs a new leader,” he wrote.
Uber grifter don't like mini grifter...
I have some concerns that he’s about to appear on the masked singer.
Not reading all the replies as I feel it's mostly just ****ing depressing, but, if I had the chance I would happily slap the prick, possibly even kick him in the goolies...... His missus is German so there's a slight bit delightful chance I might bump into him one day.
Same goes for Musk
His missus is German so there’s a slight bit delightful chance I might bump into him one day.
I don't think he spends any time with her. The matrimonial home, where I believe she still lives, is in Downe on the North Downs, and somewhere that I regularly cycle through on road rides. Farage I am told lives with his mistress in Westminster.
Some years back before he was quite as high profile as he is these days he actually got on the same bus as me. He got on at Bromley and got off at Biggin Hill which is next door to Downe. He was unaccompanied which to say the least surprised me. He went upstairs whilst I was downstairs, I regret not having a word with him but I was totally gobsmacked to see him.
No idea if was recognised by many others on the bus but no one else downstairs seemed to react. It was without doubt him and he was wearing a typical lairy multicoloured attention-seeking posh git stripey blazer
He was unaccompanied which to say the least surprised me. He went upstairs whilst I was downstairs, I regret not having a word with him but I was totally gobsmacked to see him.
Missed opportunity!
Add in a holiday home on the Kent Coast.....
Presumably he's got a place in his constituency as well....
The penis costume will be a giveaway
This is Farage's mistress btw, he is apparently very keen on the European sort
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laure_Ferrari
Elonia really does enjoy shit stirring in other countries politics. Nothing I’d enjoy more than to smack him in the face with a chair, wipe that irritating smug smirk off his face. It’s an expression not unlike the one that Rowling has permanently glued to her face.
Im not convinced that the Musk comment is anything but a bit of cleverly put together propaganda.
Reform, to move away from their extremist roots and become more mainstream to appeal to a wider group of voters must show that their aims are not aligned with the likes of tommy robinson or musk.
Musk has basically said that reform are not extremist enough and by definition are more mainstream.
Annoyingly you might be right.
A bit like when Obama weighed in on Brexit just boosted support for it
Reverse psychology doesn't just work on toddlers
Nigel Farage has long been very publicly hostile to Yaxley-Lennon seeing him quite rightly as an electoral liability.
Nigel Farage calls Tommy Robinson a 'thug'
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/video-news/nigel-farage-calls-tommy-robinson-a-thug/37560049.html
The following year Yaxley-Lennon proved his lack of voter appeal :
Humiliated Tommy Robinson sneaks out of election count early
Farage has always been very quick to kick out of his various political parties anyone who doesn't strictly follow his subtle and covert form of racism.
If Farage is now distancing himself from Elon Musk it is because he has no other choice. To agree with Musk that Yaxley-Lennon is some sort of hero would be electoral madness, and he knows it.
Just seen Farridge described as having fallen for a 419 scam - as in an African business man offered to invest 100m in his company 😀
Rats in a sack. You couldn't make it up. I particularly like the description of Farage rnning his private company in an autocratic manner
A group of 10 councillors representing Reform UK have given notice of their intention to resign en masse in protest at Nigel Farage’s leadership.
The resignations will add to pressure on the Reform leader after Elon Musk said he was “not up to the job”. They are timed to overshadow the party’s south-east conference this weekend.
The councillors alleged the party was being run in an “autocratic manner” and accused Farage of “disloyalty” to long-term members.
I think more or less the same criticism has been made of Farage's 'leadership' in UKIP as well wasn't it?
(from wiki)
A row subsequently developed within the party, in which MEP and campaign chief Patrick O'Flynn described Farage's public image as "snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive" and said he risked turning the party into a "personality cult". O'Flynn accused Farage of paying too much attention to advisors that "would like to take UKIP in the direction of some hard-right, ultra-aggressive American Tea Party-type movement
I wouldn't expect anything different. The UK far-right have a long history of division and bickering. I guess that if you have the mentality of an intolerant bigot it is naturally difficult to get on with other people.
Thanet council in Kent provides a good example of this. It was the only council that under Nigel Farage's leadership UKIP ever won control of. Within a few months they had lost control through resignations, then they regained control after a couple of by-elections only to lose control again a few months later with further resignations.
You would have thought having won control of their first ever council UKIP would have made as much effort as possible to provide it as a showcase to the wider electorate, and they probably did.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-37132927
If we do end up with a Tory-Reform government in four and a half years time I expect very similar levels of division, bickering, and lack of tolerance, within the government.
he risked turning the party into a “personality cult”.
Is that the correct spelling…?
I think more or less the same criticism has been made of Farage’s ‘leadership’ in UKIP as well wasn’t it?
Something I like about that is apparently the original leader of UKIP was basically forced out by Farage and a couple of others since they were concerned he was dictatorial and it was all about him.
Worked well that didnt it?
Is that the correct spelling…?
What - 'Kent'?
I see the little frog faced turd has washed up on the shore of his latest grift
****s.
Meanwhile the world melts, drowns or burns. Take your pick.
Wow! Utterly utterly morally bankrupt. What kind of dead black hearts must they have to be able to look at their own reflections in the mirror.
https://shop.2000ad.com/catalogue/PRG2413P/2000-ad-prog-2413-christmas-2024
In that issue of 2000 AD Farage gets arrested and accidentally executed by the Strontium Dogs.
This made me smile
I don't think they have reflections?
I think most of the UK population think climate change is real and that we need to do something about it, so Farage coming out all conspiracy theory about it might make them a lot less popular!?
Farage doesn't follow public opinion though. Or political consensus. He makes money out of trying to change it. Or rather, "break it".
so Farage coming out all conspiracy theory about it might make them a lot less popular!?
They don't need to be popular in general, they need to be popular to a smaller set who they can coax to the polls. With turnouts at UK elections being so crap, having a horde of rabid followers is super useful!
I think what that lot have seen over the past few years, especially in the US, is that the hard of thinking are very happy to hand over wads of cash to "the cause" if it gives a sense of being involved in the fight against the other side.
By aligning with the climate change deniers, Reform are positioning themselves to extract as much money as they can from our home-grown dimwits.They'd be all about Flat Earth if there were more of them to rinse.
rabid followers
Which is why, when you point out to them...
He has a great business model. He can say what he likes in the sure fire knowledge that he will never have to do anything. He has persuaded a lot of people to give him money to do this. It’s a hugely successful enterprise
They get all aggressive and start threatening you.
Because...
dimwits
It's a magnificent stitch-up he's got going.
Saw this today - it's just *chefs kiss
Oh that is, it makes me very happy indeed for all sorts of reasons. Happy post
He can say what he likes in the sure fire knowledge that he will never have to do anything.
Which on the flipside does present a problem if they get a decent number of MPs in future/start winning councils.
Currently they can just whine away but if they do get a good vote then they will start being expected to deliver.
Something they managed to avoid as UKIP in Europe since the press didnt pay much attention and they could blame johnny foreigner anyway.
Sounds like he wants to join the Labour party now so that he can be the ambassador to the US
Lord Far Far.
If Far Far does a visit to Scotland ,I really hope I get the chance to use my ( Jane Godley style) protest sign.
Speaking of "reform" patriots since Tice isnt worthy of his own thread.
I see Tice is showing his deep love of Skegness by his family moving there to really make sure they are embedded in their local community.
Ah, sorry, my mistake they have moved to Dubai.
I wonder what Nigel Farage thinks about his nephew only getting a £576 fine for his vile and disgusting behaviour? The pervert isn't even going to be put on the sex offender's register!
I think someone should ask Nigel Farage, after all he seems keen to express his opinions on other legal cases, such as the tragic Southport case.
https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/24883939.orpington-man-joseph-farage-fined-upskirting-offence/
The probelm is most of the public are genuiny daft, and they will belive any info they are fed.
I was in the pub earlier, not a proper pub, a chain pub, and having a crafty cig outside there were a bunch of 'trades persons' getting very vocal about how trump is a 'straight talker' and that's why he's courting Farage and not Starmer.... because trump 'gets things done', and we need someone like that in the UK.
I wanted to leave with my teeth intact, so I didn't get involved, never mind mention that Trump has just ripped up a load of legistlation for diabetics getting cheaper insulin.
I mean it's basically free in the UK... if you were an american citizen...if you were diagnosed with diabeties or something...your basically ****ed, what are you gonna do, remortgage the house, and basicaly go bankrupt to pay for a few years worth of injections?
The probelm is most of the public are genuiny daft, and they will belive any info they are fed.
Yes and no. All of us are vulnerable to it and often its those who consider themselves to bright to be fooled who are the easiest con targets. We are all prone to bias and manipulation and even when acknowledging that its far from fool proof.
I was in the pub earlier, not a proper pub, a chain pub, and having a crafty cig outside there were a bunch of ‘trades persons’ getting very vocal about how trump is a ‘straight talker’
I do find this ‘straight talker’ bizarre. If we take it as the vaguely dictionary definition "honest and direct" doesnt that explain most peoples position?
I could believe 27.5 is best and you could be radical and stay with 26 and we could be both equally a " ‘straight talker’". Its only if either of us checks the opinion polls and goes "yeah 29 wins" to win the votes that we arent being " ‘straight talkers"
I could believe 27.5 is best and you could be radical and stay with 26 and we could be both equally a ” ‘straight talker’”. Its only if either of us checks the opinion polls and goes “yeah 29 wins” to win the votes that we arent being ” ‘straight talkers”
It's been heading that way for years now. Doing a good thing or being nice = virtue signaling / woke and therefore it's bad.
Doing a bad thing or using slurs = triggering the libs and it's therefore good. Also "free speech!"
But if the people being triggered are your lot (gammons) it's back to being bad and you shouldn't be allowed to say such hurty things.
straight talker
It’s because the modern politician is always shying away from answering questions, whereas the grifters are happy to answer the question as they always have an answer and that’s it immigrants/foreigners the EU or any other bogeyman that’s going to rape your job,take your children etc.
You'll currently notice that Enoch Badenuff is currently on the telly in her kitchen explaining how she going to tell it how it is and is owning up to failures (obviously others)in the Conservative Party as she is attempting to portray herself as a straight talker.
if you were diagnosed with diabeties or something…your basically ****, what are you gonna do, remortgage the house, and basicaly go bankrupt to pay for a few years worth of injections?
Was talking to a family friend the other day who now lives in America. That's exactly what happens if you do't have health insurance, you go bankrupt (unless you are above retirement age)!
He was in hospital for a few days with a heart issue. He was covered but the bill, which you get like a shop receipt, was over 40k.
FFS, the best ever opinion poll for Reform UK out today, a four point lead over Labour.
https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/1885080336633090227
And it's a big sample size too.
Hardly surprising when Labour are just offering a wishy washy version of tories and reform . Vicious anti asylum seeker laws. Right wing economics. Brexiteers. Anti immigrant rhetoric benefit scrounger rhetoric.
Labour need to offer a real alternative including CU membership.
Why vote for a pale imitation when you can have the real thing.
Note SNP have increased their support and a pro eu pro tax and spend pro immigration policy
No it would not. CU membership is hugely popular. A majority even in Farages constituency. A majority across the whole UK and that is with labour campaigning against it
That it's an electoral liability is a labour lie to protect Starmers position.