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But most men claiming to be women, and women claiming to be men, are clearly mentally ill and should probably be treated as such.
Many are, but that's not causing them to identify differently to their birth sex. They're mentally ill because of pricks like you that deny them an existence that is harming no-one*.
And you say most? What are the exceptions then that you do allow?
* if it mildly inconveniences some then as well stated in the past I think the balance is that it is an inconvenience that can be borne. I'd tolerate a discussion on that point though. I won't tolerate the bigotry that denies a right to exist.
Dai Hard - Joined September 1, 2025
Let's not feed 'it'.
I’m sure someone used that name previously.
Maybe not
I can't be bothered to read all that doggybollox on the previous page. So, has this melt used the phrase 'sheeple' yet?
Given this:
Thankfully he seems to have a plan for that, to ditch the utterly pointless charade that is 'Net Zero'. That should save us around £30 billion a year.
It would seem likely.
It's a bit frustrating, mind, because I can get this crap whenever I want on Facebook or Twitter. Having it pop up here like an unflushable turd is just irritating.
I might stay away for a day or so and hope this latest plonker has given up by then.
🤷♂️
Oh really? Someone with a vested interest perhaps? Didn't work for the utterly discredited lot at Imperial College did they?
Yup as does everyone on this forum aside from you. So since we have all been paid off its best you dont waste your time here.
So I asked for someone, (anyone)? to clarify what data Mr Malhotra got incorrect in his speech. But as yet nothing substantial apart from some character assassination an deferral to authority type stuff. Are we to take from this that he has indeed got all his facts correct? Perhaps it is the case that the flak is indeed heaviest when directly over the target?
Of note is people claiming that 'millions' of lives were saved by the Covid vaccines. But the vaccines were never ever tested for mortality, and nor was they ever tested for transmission. The Pfizer vaccine was tested against the prevention of mild to moderate Covid 19 symptoms. For this, the Actual Risk Reduction (ARR) of the Pfizer Covid vaccine was approximately 0.84% as reported in the Pfizer clinical trials. This means that for every 119 people who received the vaccine instead of placebo, one additional symptomatic COVID-19 case was prevented. So hardly that effective then?
Interesting too that there are more and more studies coming out that compare excess deaths in vaccinated v's unvaccinated cohorts, finding that excess deaths in the vaccinated cohort are always higher. One such study out of many shows that death rate from Covid was actually higher in more heavily vaccinated countries, and increased after vaccination. How can this be?
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/09246479251336610
Again, I ask for a critique of the data presented by Dr Malhotra, because character assassination, or blaming the wrong politics, or deferral to industry funded or media hit-pieces, just don't cut the mustard I'm afraid, and if this is all people have then I am inclined to believe that Mr Malhotra is indeed telling some inconvenient truths.
Can someone pop round to Dai’s and throw him from a window? 🪟, cheers.
CBA to read through all the debating, my eyes just picked out this:
New cancer diagnosis rates have been increasing for decades and projected to go on rising. They were rising before the Covid vaccines and after.
As I was reading about it today. Oral sex and a particular strain of the HPV virus is one culprit apparently.
https://theconversation.com/hpv-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-common-virus-linked-to-cancer-263678
... nb. I'm not going to make any further suggestions. Also, I seem to recollect recently seeing a book published in the last decade about the damaging effects of porn, how it's become more extreme with respect to the wider population.
HPV was in my list if you'd read down, sirromji. 🙂
Here's one for the petrol heads, your exhaust fumes are giving you (and the rest of us) dementia:
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adu4132
Again, I ask for a critique of the data presented by Dr Malhotra, because character assassination, or blaming the wrong politics, or deferral to industry funded or media hit-pieces, just don't cut the mustard I'm afraid, and if this is all people have then I am inclined to believe that Mr Malhotra is indeed telling some inconvenient truths.
This is conspiracy crazy in a nutshell. "people slate it .. so it's probably true!".
Taking a controversial, illogical or downright stupid position as an alternative to accepting that others do actually know more on a topic or the majority have debunked an idea, because you're either paranoid or you can't handle not knowing a topic yourself and not being in control.
If someone says something along the lines of "people slate what they say yet I'm still open to it being possible, though the weight of evidence makes it rather unlikely" .. all good. Some days some of us feel that way about God ; )
The Editor of The Lancet, Richard Horton, reported on a presentation by Malhotra 7 November 2022 at a public meeting organised by the Association of Naturopathic Practitioners at Friends House, London.
'Malhotra's method of argument deserves scrutiny to understand why it persuades some people. Frame one's view as the reluctant endpoint of a personal journey. Quote respected scientists. Stand up to corporates. Place oneself firmly on the side of patients. Emphasise well described concerns about the presentation of research evidence. Allude to correlations. Make the call for access to raw data an issue of trust and transparency.
After the meeting descended into chaos, Horton observed that 'this descent into unreason is what happens when you inflame public anxieties. It needs to stop.'
Wikipedia on Dr Malhotra. Wikipedia and The Lancet are fairly widely reviewed sources I'd say, that'll do for me. That's a concise summary - Farage / populism works in a similar way.
At this rate, endorsing eugenics within the next few posts is a given
Why would they argue for something where the stated aim is to eliminate, as an example, themselves?
Unless of course they have fallen into actually spending all their time supporting causes which are actually detrimental to their own interests. That is the great success of Farage and the like, getting the turkeys to vote for Christmas
Well, they must all be feeling significantly better off now that we’ve ’Taken Back Control’ post-Brexit? And who can blame them, when it’s all gone so well and all the promises have all been delivered on, and then some!
Why wouldn’t you vote for more of the same?
I'm liking the radio silence from our maga-shagga conspiracy fruit loop. Hopefully that's due to some moderator action.
Well, they must all be feeling significantly better off now that we’ve ’Taken Back Control’ post-Brexit? And who can blame them, when it’s all gone so well and all the promises have all been delivered on, and then some!
Why wouldn’t you vote for more of the same?
But Farage wunt in charge so the Remainers f****d it up on purpose. We need him to get in so we can get the Brexit we voted for!
What I never get with people who are against net zero - just for a moment, imagine that coal oil etc is not killing the planet. None of it is very clean. I was in London recently - they've got the Ulez zone, electric buses, cars etc... & you know what, I didn't get black snot.
Made it much more pleasent. Imagine that - but on a global scale, just cleaning up the planet a bit - why is anyone against that?
Because it inteferes with their right to drive an inefficient V8 shitbox like their parents did, or something about money. After all, why should the EVs be exempt from road tax* and ULEZ and not my suped up 1990's XR3i with a bean tin exhaust?
* Yes, I know.
Well, they must all be feeling significantly better off now that we’ve ’Taken Back Control’ post-Brexit? And who can blame them, when it’s all gone so well and all the promises have all been delivered on, and then some!
Why wouldn’t you vote for more of the same?
Many would because "we won you lost get over it". They won, you/we're pissed off - that's all some want. "if I'm unhappy I'll make sure you are too..". We're in this together, like it or not. None of this left Vs right distraction BS.
Obvs I'm totally against real right wing nastiness .. but much of what's in discussion here is not really R vs L, it's divisive populism leading to fascism to further the cause of the ultra-wealthy Vs the rest of us pleb's best interests. The rise of the right is just a sign that the economic polices are causing the dissatisfaction which is then manipulated into nationalism or racism by those who can. All of this starts with inequality. 6th Form level politics perhaps .. same old issues in other words. My take on all this hasn't changed in 35 years or more because the politics haven't changed either. Tory, Labour, same. Unfortunately I see why Farage is getting somewhere, I just hope there is an alternative who uses effective communication and can offer something to others who are similarly disaffected.
There's also a very good argument that green energy is cheap and makes us self reliant which in themselves are very good reasons to adopt it. Unfortunately the luddites aren't interested in reasoned arguments, they've chosen their team, fruit loop right wing which seems to want us all to live in an idyllic version of the 50s which never existed.
We've got Scout Moor and Scout Moor 2 going in on our doorstep. All the arguments are around the visuals (there are more uglier long distance transmission lines in the area no one complains about), the environmental damage (Scout Moor is an ex industrial wasteland pock marked with stone quarries and access tracks and tramways with loads of rusting lumps of metal, the hill behind my house which also has turbines is covered in coal waste and mining detritus) and incoherent arguments on the economics, on the one hand it's costly and requires subsidies and other the other hand foreign investors are making a killing out of it.
I'm liking the radio silence from our maga-shagga conspiracy fruit loop. Hopefully that's due to some moderator action.
I'd rather hope that it's because they've taken a look at themselves and realised that they are being a bit of ****.
But, given other interactions I've had with this sort, I seriously doubt it.
A good article from somebody who’s witnessed it first hand, on the reality of where Farage and Reform want to take us…
A good article from somebody who’s witnessed it first hand, on the reality of where Farage and Reform want to take us…
And there's a lot of similar stories not getting the attention they deserve
The problem with this type of story is that it results in copycat events - the "CNN effect". Reporting something can provoke a reaction and the media concerned becomes a part of the problem with the role of driving the movement forward.
I don't need to know about every story and sometimes feel the media would be best to shut the **** up and not give the thugs air time until they get sentenced for whatever they've been up to.
Eh? Have you actually read the article? Doesn’t sound like it. How can a Guardian article exposing the racists for what they are, hiding their nationalism behind patriotism, be a bad thing?
They’ve been getting away with it for far too long. We need far more of this, not less. The narrative needs to be taken away from Farage and co, who have been setting the agenda and calling the shots for far too long.
We need exactly this kind of thing, exposing these people for what they are. Racist thugs! Farage is just a more media-savvy Tommy Robinson in a tweed jacket, with a lot of dark money behind him. More people who support him need to see that as the reality
I did read the article and it's just one of what I see as far to many reports in which racist thugs intimidate vulnerable people (when they aren't actually burning them out) with complete impunity. That encourages more thugs to get out there and join in with the "fun". If the images were of tear gassed racist thugs being bundled into police vans there might be an element of dissuasion but the reporting I've seen shows the thugs winning.
There's no political will and the police seem reluctant to act which doesn't surprise me given their voting habits in countries that take an interest in such things.
There's no political will and the police seem reluctant to act which doesn't surprise me given their voting habits in countries that take an interest in such things
I know you don’t actually live in this country, as you never tire of reminding us, but obviously you missed this then? Farage and the right wing press were outraged at how harshly the racist rioters were treated, with them even arguing they were political prisoners
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prison-numbers-riot-uk-record-b2604430.html
Following the unrest, a total of 460 people appeared in magistrates’ courts in relation to the disorder after more than 1,100 people were, with almost 700 of those charged, according to the National Police Chiefs’ Council
I did read the article and it's just one of what I see as far to many reports in which racist thugs intimidate vulnerable people (when they aren't actually burning them out) with complete impunity. That encourages more thugs to get out there and join in with the "fun". If the images were of tear gassed racist thugs being bundled into police vans there might be an element of dissuasion
I don't think those racist thugs are likely to be reading a Guardian article? So it's unlikely to either encourage or dissuade them.
Conversely, does it make the silent majority feel more likely to actually go out and take flags down and repaint roundabouts (as has happened where I live) or stand up to the gangs shouting at hotels.
As we've seen time and again, there are many many more of us than them, prepared to clean the racist graffiti off shops, to rebuild the wall outside the mosque, to send a message that we aren't a racist country, just one that's infected by a racist minority.
That's what I took from the article, that more direct response is needed rather than wait for the authorities to step in. We want our country back, the tolerant multicultural one we love.
Indeed. I made the point about the present polling, with Reform at 30%, that if there were an election tomorrow, the ‘Anyone But Reform’ tactical vote would be enormous
Those 30% are very vocal and given far too much airtime, but I still think that of the other 70%, the majority are not ambivalent. They find Farage, Reform and everything they represent to be absolutely abhorrent
Indeed. I made the point about the present polling, with Reform at 30%, that if there were an election tomorrow, the ‘Anyone But Reform’ tactical vote would be enormous
Those 30% are very vocal and given far too much airtime, but I still think that of the other 70%, the majority are not ambivalent. They find Farage, Reform and everything they represent to be absolutely abhorrent
Yep, I'd rather vote lib dem but I'll just as easily vote green or labour depending on what my local polls look like closer to the time.
I don't like it, but I'm not going to cut my nose off to spite my face.
A good article from somebody who’s witnessed it first hand, on the reality of where Farage and Reform want to take us…
That was a little chilling to read, I know Faversham pretty well, my sister and bil live there. Only about 30 minutes drive away and about as serene a place as you can get in the South East.
but obviously you missed this then?
There was a thread about Southport on STW, the source of all UK knowledge. I'd have rather seen suspended sentences combined with big fines and long community service hours, that way they'd have plenty of labour to take down the flags and clear up the graffiti. As the Faversham article states the police did not intervene, it was the mayor who was on the front line in the stand off.
I did read the article and it's just one of what I see as far to many reports in which racist thugs intimidate vulnerable people (when they aren't actually burning them out) with complete impunity.
D'you want the media to censor itself? The govt to censor the media? You can see how that would hand Farage and the neo-nazis a victory, right?
I don't think those racist thugs are likely to be reading a Guardian article anything as they probably can't read? So it's unlikely to either encourage or dissuade them.
FTFY.
I'd like the media to consider the message it's sending. The amount of space and air time given to the flags has IMO encouraged the racist thugs. The other message they're getting is that no-one is doing anything about it, from the PM down. The media is fueling the fire. You might expect this of the gutter press given the ownership and agenda but I find the BBC coverage does more to encourage than dissuade. Anyhow judge for yourself, is this BBC article fueling the fire and encouraging the flag fliers or denouncing them as littering intimidating racist thugs.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czxpel6dwr0o
You just know that lout on the right does most of his jobs cash in hand and doesn't put it through the books. Then he complains in the (flat-roofed) pub that his taxes are wasted on foreigners in the UK.
🤦♂️
Meanwhile, Nige's buddy Vladimir has been probing Polish airspace...
D'you want the media to censor itself? The govt to censor the media? You can see how that would hand Farage and the neo-nazis a victory, right?
@nickc no, I do not. You are talking to the wrong person. That quote you have attributed to me was actually made by @Edukator! I know it's the poorly implemented forum quote feature, not you. It's still ****ing annoying though when comments you never made and might disagree with are permanently attributed to you. It's not the first time it's happened to me on here either.
In the absence of properly functioning forum software, it might help if people read what they've posted when doing stacked quotes and edit within the window if necessary.
Apologies @blokeuptheroad, I didn't notice in time. Yes, my comments directed at @Edukator
Apologies @blokeuptheroad, I didn't notice in time. Yes, my comments directed at @Edukator
👍 Thanks, and sorry - that reads as excessively grumpy! Not directed at you, I'm just frustrated at the shonky forum software putting words in my mouth (or keyboard). I "reported" your post to ask the mods to edit it.
Well, nickc, do you think that BBC article is unnecessary fuel on the fire bigging up and ancouraging the flag fliers or a clear denounciation of racist thugs? I answered your question, it would be nice to see a response to my reply. It's this type of article glorifying the flag flyers that I would like to see the Beeb self censoring. Sure people need to be informed and that's the role of news organisations but that pic with that headline - shut the **** up BBC.
You might expect this of the gutter press given the ownership and agenda but I find the BBC coverage does more to encourage than dissuade
Unfortunately, the BBC is a shadow of its former self and its news coverage is frankly appalling as it’s scared of its own shadow and has been dumbed down to an embarrassing degree.
It is completely cowed after 14 years of the Tories firstly threatening and intimidating them, then appointing right wing, crony fellow-travelers to senior editorial roles.
The days when the Today programme set the news agenda are long gone. Nowadays the BBC slavishly follows the tabloid agenda which reflects the views of their right wing, non-dom, tax exile owners. They all would, of course, would love to see Nige and Reform in power as he’s in their pocket and shares their views. So they need to keep the focus on the immigration bogeyman and off Reforms other policies, such as privatising the NHS to hand massive tax cuts to their rich and opaque funders.
Luckily, there are still plenty of independent voices telling the truth. Channel 4 news is still as excellent as ever, the Guardian and Independent in print and groups like Led By Donkey’s online. There are still decent journalists at the BBC. Victoria Derbyshire and Matt Chorley will still happily savage politicians and regularly do. Decent Journalists like Emily Maitlis and John Sopel left the BBC in protest at being forced to give gobshites like Farage a mouthpiece in the name of ‘balance’.
It’s going to be interesting to see what happens when (or if?) Reform fight a general election campaign fielding candidates in all constituencies.
Their main weapon isn't their mates in the tabloids, or slavish BBC coverage, it’s their savvy use of social media, learned in the Brexit campaign, to tailor disinformation, misinformation and outright lies. This is then carefully targeted at very specific groups, which they are now highly skilled at. The mainstream parties are still a decade behind them on this front and unfortunately so are the regulators
Unfortunately, the BBC is a shadow of its former self and its news coverage is frankly appalling as it’s scared of its own shadow and has been dumbed down to an embarrassing degree.
It is completely cowed after 14 years of the Tories firstly threatening and intimidating them
Correct.
The throttling of income has also caused significant damage. Most stories on the front page of the BBC website are doubled up 🤷♂️
Though I am looking forward to seeing John Simpson on his ‘Leaders and Lunatics’ tour on Thursday.
Well, nickc, do you think that BBC article is unnecessary fuel on the fire bigging up and ancouraging the flag fliers or a clear denounciation of racist thugs?
That's a very twisted reading imo. It's neither of those things. It's the BBC trying, clumsily perhaps, to write a balanced report. As they are required to do by their charter, a poison chalice because it means they never please anyone. It acknowledges that there are large swathes of people swept up in this who mistakenly perhaps, think it is just about national pride.
Dismissing anyone who flies a flag as a "racist thug" is just alienating people even further and driving them toward Reform. Yes there are racist thugs amongst the flag fliers, and definitely amongst those coordinating the campaign. However many, most perhaps of those on council estates putting flags on lamposts or whatever are perhaps guilty of naivety but not racial thuggery.
It goes on to acknowledge that many others are worried or intimidated by it and explains some of the background to it.
Also, earlier in the post you were concerned about a Guardian article encouraging racist bigots and now you are saying the same about a BBC news web article. Racist bigots get their "news" from tik tok and facebook, they are not reading the Guardian or the BBC news website.
You just know that lout on the right does most of his jobs cash in hand and doesn't put it through the books. Then he complains in the (flat-roofed) pub that his taxes are wasted on foreigners in the UK.
I most certainly don't know! Biased bigotry like this is damaging both sides of the argument.
I most certainly don't know! Biased bigotry like this is damaging both sides of the argument.
Well, I don't actually know either, obviously. But I'd say, given the storyline, it's quite likely.
Biased bigotry is exactly what those two scrotes are espousing with their initimidatory flag-raising, so I'd say what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander and if they're offended by it...
Tough titty.
Why is the Donald Trump thread closed? (sorry nowhere else to put this question)
Probably too tempting for some people to post videos of a killing. I imagine the mods could end up very busy deleting them. It would be nice to have a reason for closure added to closed threads though. At least it means we can avoid all the premature jumping to conclusions the rest of the internet is full of.
Kind of ironic that this forum's response to the murder of a well known political figure who champions 'freedom of speech' (yeah I know) is to shut down discussion of it. 😕
Kind of ironic that this forum's response to the murder of a well known political figure who champions 'freedom of speech' (yeah I know) is to shut down discussion of it.
Are you upset that STW isn't honouring his last wishes
It's not the first time it's happened to me on here
Weird that it's never happened to me, a renowned gobshite. Perhaps it's not a technical problem?
Kind of ironic that this forum's response to the murder of a well known political figure who champions 'freedom of speech' (yeah I know) is to shut down discussion of it.
The first I'd heard of this "well known political figure" was social media, yesterday, in "Second Amendment gun advocate gets shot" news.
The concept that slagging off the recently murdered may be distasteful aside, here you are discussing it so it's hardly been shut down now has it. Keep it honest.
Weird that it's never happened to me, a renowned gobshite. Perhaps it's not a technical problem?
Not sure of your point? Do you think people are deliberately changing usernames when using the forum quote feature?
It's never happened to me either when quoting someone else, but it has happened twice now when people are quoting others but my username mysteriously appears instead. If it's not a technical problem and unless you think people are doing it maliciously (which I doubt) I'm wondering what you think it might be?
Looks like Farage might be getting his comeuppance about his partner's purchase of an £885k property in Clacton 🤞 either that or she's seen sense & a way to walk away with a few £££
It's not like he's ever there anyway!
If it wasn't for the small problem that he told journalists that HE bought the flat, he'd be getting away with it. He probably will still get away with it... as declaring ownership/purchase on air or to the press probably doesn't count legally has being the resident or the owner... he gets away with all his other lies to the media and the public, why not this one? He's cunning and slippery when it comes to staying the right side of the law.
I steer clear of these heated debates on here but this bloke makes me angry and I am deeply concerned what he may bring should he ever get power.
I thought we wanted to make Britain Great again, well how about making us the world leader in renewables?
Renewables are cheap and relatively easy to produce, by anybody, fossil fuels are expensive and controlled by a few companies who oddly lobby very hard.....
Do people realise why their electricity costs way more than gas? It's like making a Christmas cake, with loads of ingredients, some really cheap like the flour, the brandy less so, but charging every ingredient at the same price as the brandy.... Makes the cake very expensive.
Electricity is calculated at the cost of the highest form of energy to produce it - gas.
But you can't just make gas way more expensive as it is still the most common form of heating so you would plunge millions (more) into fuel poverty probably.
Getting rid of Net Zero will be dire for many companies that have invested millions into it.
https://www.instagram.com/suzydarke - the post with info from Andrew Field, an old school'mate' of Farage's is interesting but unsuprising reading. I wonder if others will corroborate. Do people change? Sometimes. Is there much to suggest he has? Nah...
What a load of made up bollocks that Guardian article posted by Binners is. You lot don’t even realise you’re being brainwashed and manipulated by the globalist rags that seem to hate the UK and aim to undermine our western way of life to promote their Soros and Gates funded agenda. I bet you all still think that Covid-19 came from a wet market in Wuhan (rather than from the laboratory next door where America was funding gain of function research on Coronaviruses). And you’re probably all fully signed up to the ridiculous notion that a tiny amount of manmade CO2 is the control knob for the climate, and that if we all just impoverish ourselves enough, pay enough tax, and hand over even more control to our private jet flying superiors, then we can virtue signal from our leased electric cars made with the help of forced labour in China.
Well, after the sexual assault of a young girl in our town, I’ve been on one of those asylum hotel protests, and you know what, it was peaceful. Full of families, women and children and nothing at all like the Guardian describe. The two-tier police did help to bus in a load of pro-immigrant protesters in an attempt to cause trouble. I think they were funded by someone because they all had well printed placards, all of similar deign with the same font and colours etc. But we all stood firm and didn’t rise to the bait, as much as I’m sure they wanted us to so they could use it against us.
I’m also taking the family to Tommy Robinson’s free speech rally in London tomorrow. And I’m probably going to be voting for Reform, or possibly Advance UK if they can get their act together in time. And surprise, surprise, I’m not racist, or far-right. But to people so far down the left leaning rabbit hole such as yourselves, then I suppose anything even slightly to the right of Karl Marx must seem like it is far-right.
So here’s a thing. Perhaps have a listen to one of the podcasts that Tommy Robinson has appeared on recently. There are several to choose from. You will learn how he has been mis-represented, smeared, mis-treated, and scapegoated by the media and the political class. And all just for speaking out about some inconvenient truths that have happened in working class towns across the country. If nothing else, you might for just a minute put half a foot outside of your far-left echo chamber, and perhaps even learn something new. You may even understand that there are two sides to every debate, and that the mainstream media, both left and right, couldn’t tell the truth if it’s life depended on it.
I have realised that it is perfectly normal that any civilised country should be able to take pride in its indigenous culture (in our case Christian), should look after its own population first and foremost, and also have the power and the will to control and protect its own borders. And importing tens of thousands of unknown, unvetted men, often from backward cultures where women and homosexuals are not respected as they are here in the west is a recipe for disaster for our Western way of life.
Almost all of the so called ‘asylum seekers’ are young and male, and almost all of them are economic migrants, coming here simply because our spineless globalist leaders are a soft touch. And when successive governments both Tory and Labour have said they will get a grip on immigration, yet continue time after time to ignore the concerns of the majority of the UK people, then sometimes protest, or voting Reform, or flying flags is all we have left.
Then there’s the legal immigration that dwarfs the illegal ones we hear about. Wives, cousins, uncles, extended families, visa overstayers, etc. Whole areas of our major cities now resemble the third world, such has been the cultural shift in these areas. It is estimated that almost 40% of our school kids here in the UK are now from ethnic minority backgrounds. Over 20% have a first language that is not English (or Welsh). And with birth rate demographics as they are, very soon, the white indigenous Brit (people like you and I who ride bikes, drink craft beer and flat white coffee), will become a minority in our own country. And the values we currently hold true to ourselves, such as equal rights for women, non-discrimination of gay people, respect and care for animals, and of tolerance to other cultures, will not be upheld by the new majority who often seem intolerant of Western values and culture, and who will increasingly want things their own way. And that’s when the division, the violence and the trouble will really start to flare up. Some predict a civil war, and I don’t doubt that if nothing is done to address the situation.
So shout me down as a racist if you like, but in doing so, please don’t complain when the troubles start. Remember that everyone’s life story is different, and that people can only be pushed so far before they break.
And before you judge me, I guarantee that all of you would see things differently should you also happen to have a migrant hotel housing several hundred idle, unvetted, and probably sexually frustrated young males just down the road from your own house, meaning that your wife and daughters now feel unsafe going out after dark. So what about our human rights eh?
I've volunteered working with young male asylum seekers in Manchester. They didn't fit your description in the slightest. There will be sexually frustrated men out there, some will be prone to abusing women and law breaking... but let's save that for the Donald Trump thread...
Rubble Rider seems to be our newest troll, banned member returning under a new name or AI bot! Welcome! 🙂
I've volunteered working with young male asylum seekers in Manchester. They didn't fit your description in the slightest. There will be sexually frustrated men out there, some will be prone to abusing women and law breaking... but let's save that for the Donald Trump thread...
Helping the economic migrants eh? I bet you'd change your tune if it was one of your daughters sexually assaulted.
Somebody's life hasn't worked out how they wanted. Boo hoo.
Helping the economic migrants eh?
They weren't. At all. But I was born in Germany, would you see me as an "economic migrant"? Not that I was brought here for money reasons. There are many reasons to either need or want to move. Buy dad serving his country was ours.
I bet you'd change your tune if it was one of your daughters sexually assaulted.
If your rants on here so far were coming from someone she worked with, or lived next to, I'd be very concerned for her safety. I know your type, you can feel the frustration in the words. You're the danger. And there's a whole industry now in winding you up and making you more angry.
Our indigenous culture is christian? Go away and learn some history
Our indigenous culture is christian? Go away and learn some history
Are you sure, would have said it was Pagan.
That was my assumption too, Christianity only came here toward the end of the roman era, I was replying to a specific item in their rant
And before you judge me, I guarantee that all of you would see things differently should you also happen to have a migrant hotel housing several hundred idle, unvetted, and probably sexually frustrated young males just down the road from your own house, meaning that your wife and daughters now feel unsafe going out after dark. So what about our human rights eh?
Yeah I would hate people like you even more for disrupting my peace & quiet so don't let the door hit you on your way out.
The two-tier police did help to bus in a load of pro-immigrant protesters in an attempt to cause trouble. I think they were funded by someone because they all had well printed placards, all of similar deign with the same font and colours etc.
So let me get this right, the police are working in collaboration with 'radical-left' groups by laying on co-ordinated travel for counter-protestors in a deliberate attempt to stir up trouble?
My wife and I are economic migrants, it's great. Madame is on jury service at the moment, just one of the ways we're contributing to our adopted society.
That was my assumption too, Christianity only came here toward the end of the roman era
There has been human settlement in these islands (apply whatever label you consider appropriate given the time period) for about a million years. During that time we have move from polytheism to monotheism (for the past couple of thousand years) to around 40% of the population currently having no religion.
That was my assumption too, Christianity only came here toward the end of the roman era, I was replying to a specific item in their rant
Sorry, didn't read the rant as from first few lines could see where it was going/what a **** the person was.
Rubble Rider speks te absolutely trooth, u folks r al thik 4 belivin te manstream medai, big up or tru savior Tony robinsen, god bles him
globalist
Soros and Gates funded agenda
virtue signal
two-tier police
Tommy Robinson
inconvenient truths
indigenous culture / our Western way of life.
Telling.
And before you judge me, I guarantee that all of you would see things differently should you also happen to have a migrant hotel housing several hundred idle, unvetted, and probably sexually frustrated young males just down the road from your own house
We did up until early last year, and no we didn't see any problems with the asylum seekers and none of the females in my immediate family experienced problems.
And surprise, surprise, I’m not racist, or far-right
Yes, yes you are on both counts.
Bingo!
often from backward cultures where women and homosexuals are not respected as they are here in the west.
You're right, we shouldn't be letting those US evangelicals in.
I know he's been ban-hammered already, but I'm glad I got the answer to his (wholly predictable) views on climate change and covid that were missing from the Trump thread. Why do these guys feel they have to sign up for every single RW talking point?
Did you guys get the nekkid picture as well? The one where he was showing the depth of respect for LBGTQ people we should expect from his 'culture'?
Why do these guys feel they have to sign up for every single RW talking point?
thats the worrying thing for me, once hey lean into one conspiracy before long they go balls deep on all of them
It helps that Fox, GBNews , their facebook feeds etc handily collate all the anti-science nonsense for
If the current economy continues to struggle, Farage will be the next PM. This is not because Farage is capable but when the population is increasingly struggle to put bread on table, they will continue to seek new or alternative leadership until they find one that can ease their cost of living. However, even Farage will only last for one term if he cannot fix the economy - highly unlikely to fix the economy.
The current Labour govt has run out of ideas to fix the economy, the alternative might be able to do some improvements (minor) but in the grand scheme of fixing the economy is doubtful.
If the current economy continues to struggle, Farage will be the next PM. This is not because Farage is capable but when the population is increasingly struggle to put bread on table, they will continue to seek new or alternative leadership until they find one that can ease their cost of living. However, even Farage will only last for one term if he cannot fix the economy - highly unlikely to fix the economy.
Stopped clocks are still correct twice a day. There is a risk of this happening if the "non-Farage" parties split the rest of the votes, or terminal apathy sets in.