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Surely that's just preparing for the family festival of the 12th? An inclusive event for all.
Because no one dares deal with the fallout of telling them they can't do something.
That is a bonny bonfire tho. Impressive.
A quick search reveals it was dismantled last night under cover of darkness... Nope sorry got it mixed up. TBF it's quite easy to imagine that thing would not be allowed, it's utterly insane!
An inclusive event for all.
Is the Union Jack and the Red Hand of Ulster considered inclusive these days?
I'd laugh my head off if those guys fell off that.
Also, that's leaning a bit, it'll fall to the left when ablaze. I hope the neighbours are understanding bigots
Is that them burning all the Euro pallets in a deal with Bozo.
@Brucewee apologies, my sarcasm notification must have failed - did you miss the attempt at a rebrand a few years ago?
Also, that’s leaning a bit, it’ll fall to the left when ablaze.
Even if it doesnt fall on them how stupidly hot is that going to be in those houses whilst it is burning away.
"How is this even allowed? "
You've not been to NI much have you?
Only in NI would this be allowed to happen. Unionist politicians won't condemn it as they fear the backlash from Loyalist Paramilitaries and Communities. Completely unlicensed and unregulated. Those bonfires are filled with rubber tires, ffs.
@Brucewee apologies, my sarcasm notification must have failed – did you miss the attempt at a rebrand a few years ago?
Oops, sorry.
Although, I guarantee someone somewhere is saying the same thing unironically 🙂
The lads at the top must get craned up, utterly terrifying. reasons aside, that’s impressive.
Ah, it'll be fine - it's at least 25 yards from anyone's house
... but surely there'll be a drive-by on a moped with a Molotov or two before the grand lighting is due
Ain't unquestioning blind faith amazing!
Seriously having to recalibrate my arseholeometer after reading some of those tweets.
That is terrifying and impressive in equal measure.
Forgive my ignorance why is it being built?
Just see what happened in Scheveningen a few years ago for new year iirc, similar size bonfire on the beach well away from houses but then there was quite a breeze once it was going and set fire to quite a few houses, cars and bikes
Forgive my ignorance why is it being built?
To celebrate the victory of the Protestant William of Orange over the Catholic James II back in 1688 at the battle of the Boyne. Which was pretty much the end of James attempt to regain the throne.
How is this even allowed?
Because if you take a toy away from a petulant child it will throw a massive tantrum and break something
This'll be the fight of the century- loyalist paramilitaries vs the blue pallet people.
Nice lean on that. Long lens, I know, but not sure I could sleep well in those houses.
To celebrate the victory of the Protestant William of Orange over the Catholic James II back in 1688 at the battle of the Boyne. Which was pretty much the end of James attempt to regain the throne.
And what more reason would you need 333 years later to build a **** off great big bonfire to show your hate of your neighbours who read a bible (but probably don't, but if they did bother, they would) with a different forward and whose Sunday morning gig MCs wear a slightly different frock.
Its going to be a fairly lively marching season here I think.
Also, they definitely climb up. If you look closely you'll see some pallets hanging out the side. They stand on these as they hand pallets up.
Mental! 🙈
And what more reason would you need 333 years later to build a **** off great big bonfire
Dont forget the need to march through their neighbourhoods playing drums and pipes badly as well.
I left Norn Ireland, it's very backward.
I hope they check it for hedgehogs first.
How is this even allowed?
It’s a handy distraction for the fact that their beloved Conservative and Unionist party have sold them down the river.
Definitely needs more flags though. You can never have too many flags
kayak23
Full MemberI hope they check it for hedgehogs first.
Ah but just imagine the size of the hedgehog in there
NI
A hotbed of inbred religious bigotry.
The reason it's allowed is it's easier than overloading the hospitals with gunshot wounds and petrol burns.
Imbeciles that need sterilised.
...and the wee donkey...
Wicker man.
I guess all that Brexit money given to the unionists to keep them on side is ironically going up in smoke
Please someone set it on fire early....
Nope
They don't give a shit about brexit or politics (non religious) , they just hate catholics.
Blaming brexit is pretty awesome mind. I'd have never have thought of that.
I wonder why ?.
Lot of offences going on there by many individuals and companies. However I too would probably choose to break non-enforced laws over the consequences of not helping out a bit with this.
IANAL but: how were the pallets obtained and from whom, how were they transported to the site and using whose equipment and people licensed to drive it, how were tyres and furniture destined for recycling obtained, environmental laws, who hired the crane to them and how was it paid for, who operates the crane (do they have a licence, if not why were they allowed to hire), endangering property, fly tipping, ...
Best that I don't say what I think as a visit from the buckos intent on a little knee-capping would be...unwelcome.
The NIA did nothing to diminish the marching season and associated bonfires.
Johnson and frost with their attitude to the NI protocol are literally pouring fuel onto the fire - and appear to be too dim to recognise it.
The support networks which helped sustain 'the troubles' were never properly dismantled; a few motivated people with the right contacts...
Johnson and frost with their attitude to the NI protocol are literally pouring fuel onto the fire – and appear to be too dim to recognise it.
Oh they recognise it alright. They’re deliberately fuelling it to try and use it as leverage in negotiations with the EU
The utter utter ****s!!!
The consequences of Boris Johnson’s careless Brexit are playing out in Belfast
Yup, so what has any of that to do with the bonfires ?
Cause if you think a peace process or a protocol will stop this you're deluded. And blaming brexit ! well !.
Oh, I’ve spent enough time in NI during ‘the troubles’ and after the GFA to know nothing will stop it. Bell-ends be bell-ending,
But surely this is the first time we’ve got a government who are quite happy to actively and cynically egg it on as it suits their present (Brexit) agenda?
Blaming brexit is pretty awesome mind.
I never blamed Brexit so remove that rod from your arse, these fires are partly or wholly funded from where exactly?……think carefully about this one now…………… that’s right - it’s unionist parties and various paramilitary factions.
My closest mate is from ballymena and his family/ancestors have lived/still live in the area for 5 generations, he had the sense to get out in the late 80’s after experiencing first hand the brutality of division, being made to watch his friends get shot in the back of the knee, others get dragged behind a car through the town and fair number of other situations (someone will get the inference). So when it comes to NI goings on I think I will listen to him and his family who still live in the area rather than a gob on stw
It's not an EU flag at the top though it's the starry plough. Which has a much more Irish republican meaning.
lol wind your neck in you fud.
You absolutely blamed brexit claiming it was brexit money that was paying for the bonfires.
Oh and patronising is for dicks.
No, I inferred that money allocated to unionist political parties has been used to fund these “celebrations”, that money comes from where exactly?
Co Kerry and Cork, fills up wth with nationalists during mid July. Talking to them they simply didn't want to be in the North during the marching season.
all that Brexit money given to the unionists to keep them on side is ironically going up in smoke
Meh.
Whatever makes you feel superior.
So, has someone done any fact checking on this story?
(I'm not suggesting it isn't true, but curious whether this happened in previous years but this one's got a little bit bigger than previous bonfires so is now "newsworthy"...)
fact checking bonfires in the 06? 😆 yes, they are a fact, every year. 😆
You get republican bonfires too, no just unionist ones. though the unionists do like the ridiculous big yins more than most it seems. 😆
Yup they are (sadly) a fact.
Well, my ask was have they been as big (or a similar size) as the one in the photo in the OP?
the one in the photo is humongous. 😆
My mother was Irish - Eire, the Republic, the South...whatever.
She knew this for what it was - and still is.
The wife of one of my Eirann cousins is from Belfast; she and her husband both refuse to discuss any aspect of Irish politics; they successfully crossed the religious and sectarian divides, as have many others - but not enough.
I'm 100% with somafunk on this - as would be anyone with any connection to or having any real awareness of Irish politics.
There are no winners in this conflict.
Since partition, the real reasons for conflict have become increasingly obscured; that hasn't changed - conflict and perceived insults/injustices/sleights passed down generation to generation.
Johnson and frost not recognising the rumbling discontent; if/when the NIA/NIP blows up it will be far worse than anything we saw in the 80's.
There are many looking for a reason (excuse) to kick off.
STW writ large - pontificate about a subject of which you have no knowledge or direct experience.
God help us if the provos or any successor group gets wound up.
frankconway
it will be far worse than anything we saw in the 80’s.
doubt that tbh.
Yeah sounds a bit dramatic to me also.
Most people in NI are getting on with getting on with one another.
There's a minority of bellends that claim to speak for the 'community' and prey on vulnerable, impressionable and deprived children to do their bidding.
Unionism is eating itself right now.
Some of the bonfires might be a touch bigger this year as they were largely called off last year.
More time to collect pallets, tyres, tricolors etc
The Northern Ireland peace process / protocol has been sacrificed on the bonfire of Brexit.
I'll get me coat.....
We all have our views; time will tell but I am deeply pessimistic.
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Most striking is the utter delusion of the person who installed solar panels whilst living in Northern Ireland
The burning resentments and unpalatable logistics of identity politics.
The burning resentments and unpalatable logistics of identity politics.
Good, but not as funny as the giant hedgehog reply 😉
I wonder what all these unionists are compensating for? 😁
I'm amazed people aren't killed by these
(also Isn't this year the postponed orange order centenary?)
There's no doubt Brexit has left many unionists feeling left out of the UK and they are pissed (brads your in denial if you think this isn't happening)
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/loyalists-write-to-pm-withdrawing-support-for-good-friday-agreement-40156858.html
Johnson has signed us up to a deal that pushes NI further out of UK and into EU jurisdiction, now they'll have to demonstrate even harder how British they are, so bigger bonfire, bigger celebration of Protestantism beating Catholicism
EU wisely granted UK another extension on checks over the summer bonfire & matching season for this reason.
I'm not sure what will have when hardcore Loyalists realises NIP is here to stay
Found whilst reading Kimbers link
Thanks MCTD, I missed that, very good. I was talking to a builder out there during the troubles (double security front door/porch etc) and he explained although he was having to pay tributes to both sides, it was tax deductible!
It has a safety fence around the bottom so pretty sure it’ll be fine.
That's a shame. "Bellend Bigots on a bloody big Brexity BBQ" would have been a great documentary
There are no winners in this conflict.
I expect organised crime does pretty well...
Johnson and frost with their attitude to the NI protocol are literally pouring fuel onto the fire – and appear to be too dim to recognise it.
The DUP architects of the re-unification of the island, just too dim to take in that the electorate voted to remain and have backed the wrong horse.
Common sense has prevailed
I bet it would have been spectacular to watch it go up, but if it fell over on your house, not so amazing
If you read the article, the bonfire in the pictures is not the one that has been dismantled.
Found whilst reading Kimbers link
FYI, that's a different bonfire that's been dismantled - the article is somewhat misleading in that it shows a picture of the bonfire in Larne but is reporting on the dismantling of one in Bloomfield in Belfast. The article does mention at the bottom that the picture is from Larne.
Can anyone explain what would happen if we just told NI to be independent. Then they could re-join the EU or Ireland depending on a referendum (we all know they work well in deciding big issues).
Would that improve things or make them worse ?
Are they destined to be divided by generational old views ?
Can anyone explain what would happen if we just told NI to be independent.
They're getting ready for all those bangers.
You'll be able to toast bangers from the Isle of Man when that thing is lit..
Unionism is eating itself right now.
Democratic elements are. What a minority of people turn to because of that is the worry.
Can anyone explain what would happen if we just told NI to be independent. Then they could re-join the EU or Ireland depending on a referendum (we all know they work well in deciding big issues).
Would that improve things or make them worse ?
Are they destined to be divided by generational old views ?
I suspect this is the sort of thinking that led to the NI protocol in the first place. The UK put soldiers on the streets of NI for decades. We fought to retain NI. A significant proportion of the people in NI believe really strongly in the Union and want to be part of the Union. The UK has spent 100 yrs fanning that sentiment. We came to a settlement that was working fairly well for all involved - then 23 yrs later essentially want to ignore that agreement.
This is not as simple as just saying "off you toddle on your own then". In general, people who do not want to be part of a United Ireland don't want independence they want to be part of the UK, with the Queen as head of state, no role for the catholic church in the machinery of state, etc. many of them have fought for it, some have lost their lives for it etc. They would see themselves being sold down the river, for a situation which is less of what they want and almost certainly closer ties to Dublin (and I think any sensible observer would expect eventual unification).
This is not just a "NI" problem - UK governments have contributed to the division there for decades and a lack of understanding of the issues has lead the UK government, and frankly, voters in the rest of the UK to create the mess that exists in NI with Brexit.
Brexit isn't the cause of this stuff (obviously), but it sure isn't helping.
Incidentally, who lives in a world where there is only one reason behind everything that occurs?