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I've been a Times subscriber and it's been fine. I feel it's been sort of central politically but a bit to the right. I can no longer read it as the Scotland section is getting quite anti Scottish government, in fact quite anti Scotland as an independent entity and the comments at times are less pleasant than afternoon tea with the Truss cabinet. The whole paper is very London centric and quite ridiculous. Recent article bemoaning how hard it was to exist on a £50k income 20 years ago.
Anyhoo, where should my news input shift to?
To curb my centre right tendancies my gf got me the Guardian app.
I can’t believe I am about to write this, but I have found the Independent a bit ‘okay’ in recent years. Otherwise, I tend to read the Euronews website.
If I read a news article it is normally on The Guardian website so I occasionally donate them some money.
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I'm also interested as I started reading the Telegraph to balance out my regular Guardian consumption but now it's behind a paywall.
I'm an I subscriber - although running a shop I technically get it free. Times has cirtainly gone further right than it used to. Some Gardian articles are good, but I'd say the paper is as much center left as the times is right.
Byline times, The week & private eye seems to been good level magazine newspapers.
After The Indy and Brexit referenda, I abandoned Aunty Beeb in favour of Channel 4 News on TV and the Gruniad online. Both cover stories avoided by the Tory centric MSM and ask difficult questions that client journalists wouldn't dare to.
Quite Bylines curious too. Their content on X seems like a more mature Private Eye.
I’m also interested as I started reading the Telegraph to balance out my regular Guardian consumption but now it’s behind a paywall.
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Viz or The Framley Examiner
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I’ve always been happy with BBC for actual news and then in-depth “discussion” from articles others highlight (often Independent, Guardian, but sometimes FT or Scotsman/Herald) BUT the BBC news app sends push notifications to my phone with “Breaking news” which I used to find moderately useful. Yesterday I got two notifications from the BBC: “former Corrie actor dies as 86yrs old” and “King laughed at get well card”.
WTAF - I understand some people find celebrity deaths newsworthy. I’m not sure some guy who used to be an actor counts as a celebrity, but I’m not a Corrie fan so can see some would be interested. But he’s 86, there is nothing surprising about old people dying.
And the king - I mean I’m no royalist so this story was particularly irrelevant but why does someone (or some algorithm) at the BBC think “this is important enough to interrupt whatever else the user is doing to send a notification to them”.
Guardian and New European for me.
Websites: BBC News and Guardian.
TV: Channel 4 News. Always seems to cover stories in depth and does some stories the BBC doesn't cover. Don't know about Sky news as I don't have Sky. Obviously GB News is not on my list, due to my centre left leanings.
Guardian, here and general news feed on iPhone. Like to read from a variety of sources where possible. Can’t recall when I last watched the news or read a physical paper. Also like to listen to PM on Radio 4 depending on what time I finish work.
GBNews obviously.
I read The Guardian for my main news source, then The Telegraph and the Daily Mail to make sure I'm still right about everything they say. Got to know what the misguided are thinking.
Top tip: you can read 99% of The Telegraph if you go to a protected page and tap the reader button in your browser before the block comes up. It does mean you can't read the comments, which are often the most entertaining bit.
New Agents podcast is good, Rest is Politics is okay but a bit centrist Dad for me. The new podcast from Sky with Beth Rigby, Jess Phillips and Ruth Davidson looks promising for a bit of alternative comment to the Dadcasts (god, I hate that word).
The Times newspaper might not be great but the Stories of our Times podcast is good.
"To curb my centre right tendancies my gf got me the Guardian app"
The Guardian has become so shit since Viner took over as editor that I find reading it pushes my views to the right.
I now have an Apple News subscription and read news from various different sources.
I also read the Economist and Private Eye and I check in with the Morning Star every now and then.
NYT or the Guardian for me. Or anything thols posts
https://bylinetimes.com is good, I get the paper edition and give it to a mate and her 15 yr old son afterwards.
Apart from that I follow a select few journalists on twitter, and C4 news
🙂 Ha, the Galloway news is only suitable for lining the litter tray of senile Tory bed wetters, my mate used to be the photographer for the paper and she told me a few stories about the editor and his views, she eventually left after a rather vocal disagreement with a story being dropped regarding a local newsagent and his questionable sideline business selling porn videos starring very young participants. If you’re from the area you’ll know who I’m referring to
The Economist. Ignore daily news as much as you can as it’s driven by the need to have a daily big story.
By being weekly the big issues filter to the top. It has truly global coverage rather than being uk or US centric (though coverage there still leads).
” The editorial stance of The Economist primarily revolves around classical, social, and most notably economic liberalism. It has supported radical centrism, favouring policies and governments that maintain centrist politics.“
The science/ tech coverage is pretty good too (I used to read new scientist fairly regularly but it’s a shadow of what it was)
The FT. It's not financial stuff.
And there restaurant reviews are as good as a Meal out...
Reuters app for succinct world news.
Could do with something to provide a bit more UK content perhaps.
Binned off the Guardian app as it was getting a bit too over-dramatic.
Tried the 'i' app and it was terrible.
I use Flipboard, and whatever news sources it aggregates for me. Some of the American news media is, how shall we say… eye-watering? eye-rolling? Shocking?
All of the above?
Still, it’s more informative than anything I get from British news outlets. I get Kiev News, Haaretz News, plus assorted other global news which is very interesting indeed.
@onehundredthidiot - given how awful the SNP government we have just now are, is it any surprise they are being targeted for plenty of bad news stories? Surely that should be newsworthy so we know how shambolic things are. I'm aware that the UK government is even worse, but they have managed to make the utter madness be perfectly acceptable to everyone, so there is little news in that.
Aware this wasn't intended to turn into a for/against the SNP government, but I'm trying to suggest that given how bad they are, almost all news is going to be against them.
I don't tend to actively follow news as I find most of it quite depressing as it tends to be depressing stuff. BBC News website for a quick nosey - I like the 7 Day quiz as I answer honestly but aim to score 0 as I consider that a win as it means I've been busy enough to avoid whatever mince has been on the news.
I might try Channel 4 news website (if there is one)...just in case it has a bit more of interest...I've clearly aged now as I no longer leave the room if the news is on and I've found myself turning the news up on the radio when I'm in the car if it comes on - on whatever radio station is playing.
Back in the day we used to buy The Sunday Times and digest that over the week. Occasionally we'd get the Observer or Sunday Telegraph as the Times often sold out early).Now I get the news from everywhere, all the time.
Obviously I'm much more informed these days but not neccessarily better informed.
These days I read the Guardian and watch BBC and C4 news with the same scepticism that I used to (and still do) reserve for the Daily Mail.
Economost is a good shout.
No FT? No comment. Free subscription from work
Sunday Times via the magic red “N” for which i subscribe. I also buy a hard copy from time to time.
Tends to be BBC but I don't really like it. Sometimes feel like they're sweeping some newsworthy stories (or details) under the carpet. Other times content that's simply not news and more indulging in their own agenda. Also annoying how pretty often when there's a member of the public featured, it's someone massively non-stereoptypical for that role, simply not necessary.
Independent sometimes, used to be more but don't remember why.
Used to like The Economist but after a while it seemed to instill a sense of dread in me about the world.
Had an Economist print subscription for years, but cancelled recently as I wasn’t reading issues in full and it’s not cheap. Might come back to it though. FT after that which we can access through work. Guardian is OK and has the occasional piece of brilliant investigative journalism, but I’m not a fan. After that it’s Apple News and dedicated apps for stories I want to follow (eg Al Jazeera). Podcasts another world as news bleeds into analysis/commentary.
I've been puzzling over this recently. I'm a Guardian reader by inclination and that's my main news source but they've run a series of investigative pieces recently on a topic I actually know about. The content was really quite poor; they gave right of reply but then ignored the reply; and they seemed to accept information unquestioningly if it suited their narrative but ignore information which didn’t.
So I'm asking myself if this is their normal standard of journalism, and if I want to continue subscribing?
@dpfr this echos my thoughts with the Guardian. They did a piece a few years ago involving the company I work for. The focus was on one disgruntled employees views/experience with no balance from others. It seemed they just wanted to have a pop at the company and get a headline IMO.
FT is excellent for actual newsworthy news. If you want trivia and tittle-tattle then it's no so good.
Came on to recommend The Economist, then saw the Private Eye recommendation and remembered I am a subscriber to that as well. So yes, both those.
For more daily news, i tend to go for aggregation sites that pull in from many sources. Omni and Flipboard work, but you do need to assess the source before accepting the story, so downgrade anything that you know is biased. Failing that, Reuters do a feed, so does AP. BBC is mostly impartial and has good people working for it, Sky News is decent (maybe a slight bias). I also read the news here (SVT, Sweden) for the European/world coverage and trust it as impartial.
I use Flipboard, and whatever news sources it aggregates for me. Some of the American news media is, how shall we say… eye-watering? eye-rolling? Shocking?
After that it’s Apple News and dedicated apps for stories I want to follow (eg Al Jazeera).
For more daily news, i tend to go for aggregation sites that pull in from many sources. Omni and Flipboard work, but you do need to assess the source before accepting the story,
If you get your news through aggregators of some sort it can be worth getting a free-trial of NewsGuard. It's a browser extension that flags the reliability of news sites and provides a sort of 'nutritional label'. If you're normally using particular papers then you have a reasonable idea of the trustworthiness and biases of that paper and you either take account of that or willingly turn a blind eye. But there are a lot of 'news' sites that are really shills for campaigns and pressure groups or sites that a regurgitators of stories without themselves being especially diligent of the veracity of their source.
Theres a sort of mis-information route from Russian troll farms through these variously poor 'news' sites to more main stream outlets, each of which takes the rung below them as being a valid enough source. It typically takes about 2 weeks for a 'story' to get from a twitter bot's account to Fox.
Newguard are an organisation that sort of does a health check on each news site and give it a rating for trustworthiness - and the good thing is they show all their working - so you can see on what grounds they deem a site to be reliable or otherwise. Stuff like whether sites they declare or disguise their ownership and funding, their course of action in dealing with errors and complaints - how prominent corrections are (or like the the Mail - just delete the story and pretend it never happened) and so on.
To a degree the various aggregators should be doing this anyway - but they don't reveal that vetting process to either the reader or the publisher - either that they are doing it at all (Facebook should be doing it for instance but you can't see that they are) or how they do it. Newsguard is completely transparent - you can see in detail how each site has been assessed, detailed case studies - even the names of the people doing the assessing. Its even useful in the sense that it puts a flag at the top of your browser that just indicates whether the site you're looking at is a news site or not - useful for people that don't realise some sites or stories are actually satire.
It doesn't do harm to give it a whirl even if you do typically use the same few conventional outlets as it's interesting to see how your sense of them compares to their assessment. Also interesting when folk share links to stories on here in terms of revealing the caliber of the publications that create the stories that people feel driven to share.