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I am in with a chance of landing a new job
Plusses
Home based
£10K pay rise
Get to work with latest tech
No legacy tech to support
New market for the company albeit related
Could ride my bike evenings and lunchtimes 😁
Minuses
Love where I work now , great boss and colleagues.
Having to support legacy tech which I hate
250 mile round trip commute or frequent hotel stays. CEO is old school bums on seats so can't work from home.
10k pay rise would mean 0 child benefit
Away from home 2 or 3 nights per week
Don't see a lot of wife and kids 9 and 11
Can't ride my bike during the week 🥺
Any advice or thoughts ?
Not actually been offered the new job yet but I am fairly confident an offer will be forthcoming.
Genuinely unsure of what to do assuming an offer is forthcoming , if my current job was located 50 miles further north or offered flexible working then I wouldn't even think about moving.
For information the new company approached me directly and I hadn't thought about moving beforehand
Relocation isn't an option as I have the kids in a really good school
Sorry just reread your post and changed my response!
Is the 250 mile commute in your current job? Would the new job have you at home more to see the kids and wife?
Less time commuting would be enough to get me to change jobs, but that's just me.
Sounds shit with those minuses.
Eh? A plus is that it’s home based but a minus is that it’s 250 miles away and the boss wants you in all the time?
Can you talk to your boss? Tell him that you'd hate to leave, but the commute is unsustainable - see what they say about home-working then.
Salary rise v loss of child benefit - does this leave you up or down?
Another one who doesn't understand your minuses here!
If the new job is from home, has a £10k salary increase and is more enjoyable than the current job then I would be biting their arm off.
However, if the new job would be 3 nights away each week, and not seeing much of your family then not so interesting.
Bit confused by the minuses as well. If it helps the things I value most of all over cash in my job are:
Flexible working - I can work wherever I want and manage my own hours to some degree
A good boss who fully supports the above situation
A company that is moving towards a culture of flexible working and bringing in tech to aid this
Go for the new job provided the company has a future.
To clarify ,the new job is home based plus a pay rise , I would be a bit better off even after losing child benefit
Current job has 250 mile commute
Thanks for all the responses , looks like new job is the way forward
Losing that commute would be ace, but home working isn't for everyone - maybe discuss with your boss to see if there's anything they can do to match the package, and don't burn bridges if not, you may be able to go back if you change your mind.
I'm not sure you understand how a plus and minus list usually works, you're not supposed to mix the two options in the same list :p
From what I can tell the only thing really in the favour of your current job is your colleagues/boss are good people, to me that's not a good enough reason to stay given the negatives detract from your real life (not work life). Besides if you'll be WFH even if some of your new colleagues are dicks you won't have to spend much time with them, emails are easy enough to ignore.
To clarify ,the new job is home based plus a pay rise , I would be a bit better off even after losing child benefit
Current job has 250 mile commute
Thanks for all the responses , looks like new job is the way forward
I hope your new job doesn’t involve making lists.
Losing that commute would be ace, but home working isn’t for everyone –
This. Oh, and it isn't all lovely lunchtime rides and feet up on the desk...
That list suggests that most of the plusses are in the new job, and most of the minuses in the old one. Which makes it an easier decision.
No brainer based on how I think the list should look. Your current boss/ colleagues won’t all be around for ever.
Don’t get too excited if you haven’t got the offer or had a confirmation yet... based on your confused list making skills don’t go hand your notice in before you’ve had the new job confirmed!
For information the new company approached me directly
I'd be asking for more money .... The first amount you've been offered is their opening offer... ask for current + 20.
Good luck
With 11 kids I’m not surprised you don’t use names! Seems unfair to favour 1-8 and 10, you should spread yourself more thinly 😉
Also make sure the new job does not have "Thomas Cook" management on board.
Get to work with latest tech
No legacy tech to support
New market for the company albeit related
Could ride my bike evenings and lunchtimes 😁Minuses
Love where I work now , great boss and colleagues.
Having to support legacy tech which I hate
I was going to say, the + and - seemed to be at odds here, but I’m obviously not the only one who was confused, glad it’s been clarified.
10k pay rise would mean 0 child benefit
Is that really supposed to be a minus? For me dropping the 250 mile commute would be a no-brainer! That is just insane.
countrybumpking
With 11 kids I’m not surprised you don’t use names! Seems unfair to favour 1-8 and 10, you should spread yourself more thinly 😉
Lol!
JP
<thread-theft> I've just got a new job, my new employer has offered a slightly more than 2% pay rise, and I have verbally accepted. My old employer, on handing my notice in, has offered me a bit under 25% to stay, plus promotion, more interesting projects, less time travelling etc etc. I think I know the answer to this already, but if I've verbally accepted, it would be rude of me to say "you know that 2% rise over my current wages? How about bumping it up a bit as the old lot are willing to stump up a shedload more to stay?" I'm committed to moving, it just seems like a better gig, but it'd be a bit rude to push for more cash at this point, right? </thread-theft>
I wouldn't personally, if the 2% increase over your current salary was good enough for you to verbally accept then you're going to come across as a bit of a dick and start off on the wrong foot by now saying you want more.
Sound, thanks - that's the way my thinking is heading anyway, just wanted to check I'm not being stupid! 🙂