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Can you be trusted not to make a dick of yourself to complete strangers?


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:19 pm
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100% winning record though - best Engerland boss ever. I can hear the laughter from 20 miles south of Scotland (again).


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:26 pm
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Brilliant news.

SA is a total bell-end.

I'm glad to see the back of him!


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:27 pm
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Harry that is a loaded question no?


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:29 pm
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Posted : 27/09/2016 7:31 pm
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Thank £%&#. Now we can move onto the next overpaid mid-table manager.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:35 pm
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A Brucey-bonus for Steve?


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:39 pm
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A Brucey-bonus for Steve?

We need Steve Bruce at Derby now - England can now have Pearson! 😀


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:42 pm
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Thank £%&#. Now we can move onto the next overpaid mid-table manager.

Doubt Mourinho would want it?


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:43 pm
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What a nob Sam Allardyce is. Couldn't resist giving it the big "I am" and portraying himself as up for a bit of wheeler dealing. A bit like when Dallaglio got stung all those years ago, because he wanted to portray himself as a bit of 'player'.

Some people are just plain thick.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:46 pm
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Nail on the head dannyh!


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:48 pm
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It's a farce.

Should be played out at the Royal Opera House.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 7:50 pm
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Inrat. However, my take on this is that it has little to do with the game itself, or the press masterminding yet another national team debacle. I would suggest that in this instance, the journo's are themselves pawns in this and at some point in the past, big Sam royally pissed someone off who has now enacted their revenge and not one broken knee cap involved.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:13 pm
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You can't con an honest man as someone once said. Why Sam Avarice would risk everything for around 10% of his salary beggars belief.

He can't be short of a bob or two.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:23 pm
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I believe Sepp Blatter and Issa Hayatou are both available!


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:24 pm
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Some people are just plain thick.

You can't con an honest man as someone once said. Why Sam Avarice would risk everything for around 10% of his salary beggars belief

Or he's just greedy and he's got a track record-remember the Stevens report?
There were also unanswered concerns regarding the involvement of Craig Allardyce in a number of transactions. “The inquiry remains concerned at the conflict of interest that it believes existed between Craig Allardyce, his father Sam Allardyce – the then manager at Bolton – and the club itself.”


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:36 pm
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Is he sacked? Or has he resigned? I hope he hasn't been paid off.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:43 pm
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They FA are a ****ing joke

They've been through this before
10 years ago the BBC panorama made the same claims about him
The FA launched their usual rigourous investigation, looked into every club in the country and found them all innocent ..... Apart from Luton Town who's manager had appeared in the panorama doc claiming it was endemic in football, they were given a record fine and points deduction went bankrupt and then were deducted even more points, starting the next season on -20 or something ridiculous having been forced to sell their best players in a middle of an FA cup run.

Anyway the FA (like all big money sporting bodies) are complicit in covering up this kind of corruption and then why not match fixing and obviously doping.

May as well watch WWE wrestling- its about as genuine as any other big sport


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:51 pm
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So, the list of current Englishmen managing in the EPL - Eddie Howe,Sean Dyche, Alan Pardew, Mike Phelan (sort of). Has there ever been a time when getting on the short list took less talent and experience? Have to go for a Jonnie Foreigner surely.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:55 pm
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Last successful English manager - Howard wilko in 1991.....

That's if we're talking winning the top league....


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 8:57 pm
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Stupid thing to get caught doing, but he'd only be saying what everyone else in the game knows goes on. Like I said, very silly, especially considering his role, but not corrupt and not much of a scandal. If there really was a scandal I suspect he'd be a lot more careful about who he's talking to and where.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 9:00 pm
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Last successful English manager - Howard wilko in 1991.....

That's if we're talking winning the top league....

Wow. That's just won stat of the day.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 9:07 pm
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Rooney for player manager - as his legs 'go' he can move to centre mid, defensive mid, centre half, goalie by 2030 World Cup.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 9:12 pm
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Stupid thing to get caught doing, but he'd only be saying what everyone else in the game knows goes on.

So, that makes it ok??

SA deserves to be out of the job - make no mistake about that.

If you're employer takes a stand on a given matter, you are then caught giving advice how to circumvent said matter then you deserve 2 things:

1. The sack.
2. An award in f-wittery for gobbing off about to get round said matter.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 9:13 pm
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through my son school we got tickets to the England v malta game next week end , to " witness a new era under Sam Allardice " !!! lol . they might need to reword the letter .


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 9:15 pm
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So, that makes it ok??

he deserved the sack, 100%, you can't undermine your employer like that, but it's not the greatest footballing crime is it? Clubs, agents and managers skirt the rules all the time, the FA do nothing about it unless the press kicks up a fuss. The FFP rules are made a mockery of every year. It's a joke and firing SA wont make a blind bit of difference.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 9:22 pm
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So, that makes it ok??

he deserved the sack, 100%, you can't undermine your employer like that, but it's not the greatest footballing crime is it? Clubs, agents and managers skirt the rules all the time, the FA do nothing about it unless the press kicks up a fuss. The FFP rules are made a mockery of every year. It's a joke and firing SA wont make a blind bit of difference.

I think someone of previous good character could have skated that no problem - contrite apology, I was terribly misinterpreted etc. With BigSam though, he's already a bit shady in many people's minds, so it just looks really bad and he can't bullshit his way out of it. He's not been in the job 5 minutes and he's working angles to line his own pockets.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 10:03 pm
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I was terribly misinterpreted
but they have a tape so not really an option

Probably had to go as the HMRC thing and agreeing to break the rules just makes him look like a greedy bastard who loves money and does not have much of a moral code.

Daft thing to have done especially when he is so well paid anyway


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 10:12 pm
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I have to say I feel sorry for him. Stupid stupid thing to do but have the Telegrapgh really achieved, hardly lifting the lid on Lance Armstrong was it ?


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 10:54 pm
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Junkyard - lazarus

I was terribly misinterpreted

but they have a tape so not really an option

There's always elements of doubt that allow you to build your own counter-story. Here's John Higgins being misinterpreted saying he would accept money to throw snooker frames - different league of cheating to BigSam. Rap on the knuckles for failing to inform the authorities and he was back on the green baize in no time.


 
Posted : 27/09/2016 11:10 pm
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The major problem with this is once Sam goes there'll be no further investigation, no tightening of the rules the he can circumvent & no changes other than the England manager & the Daily Telegraph will have sold a few more copies.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 6:27 am
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I hope he hasn't been paid off.

A reported 7-figure sum for him to leave quickly and quietly.

Alan Shearer has popped his head above the parapet with some opinion or other.

"Look at meee! Pick meeeeee!"


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 6:32 am
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Why didn't they have the balls to just sack him ffs.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 6:35 am
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Alan Shearer would be fantastic* **

*I'm Welsh
*I find him boring on MOTD (but good on England matched tbf)


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 6:37 am
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German TV this morning reporting him as fired.. not leaving by agreement


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 7:14 am
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Breaking news - he's to become new shadow minister for sport.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 7:21 am
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The speculation on who's going to be next just highlights how unbelievably arrogant and utterly delusional not only the FA, but also the English media are.

Arsene Wenger? Seriously? Why the * would he want it? If he doesn't renew his contract at Arsenal, then I'd think he'll be getting offers from top tier sides from all over Europe. Take the England job instead? get a grip. I think we know what he thinks about the standard of English footballers by the huge amount of them he has in his squad!

Then they say Sean Dyche or Eddie Howe, as they're good young managers. Well... exactly. They're managing lower tier Premiership clubs.... well ...with no doubt the ambition to end up managing one of the big boys. So, again.... Why the * would either of them want it? Its graveyard for managerial careers.

On another level.... I did some work for Burnley last year, and spent a bit of time at Turf Moor. Its an incredibly solid, professional and well run business. Which allows Sean Dyche to get on with doing his job, without the constant off-pitch drama and farce as a distraction. So why would you go and work for a corrupt shambles like the FA?

They'll end up with what they deserve. A middling English manager, who's never won owt, and never will. Or a foreign manager who fancies a quick multi-million quid payday


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 8:16 am
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Sounds like the labour party...


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 8:18 am
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Nah, that level of greed and corruption puts them right in the tory heartlands.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 8:36 am
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It's ok everyone. "It was an error of judgement".


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 9:05 am
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Can we stop calling him "Big Sam" and refer to him as Thick Fat Sam. I feel it's a more accurate description.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 9:42 am
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Entrapment has won on this occasion and I have to accept that,

but Sam, you can't con an honest man you dodgy sack of shit.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 9:56 am
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I'm never sure what football managers are for?

They don't look of behave like performance managers or coaches and rarely seem to talk about their staff, are they just characters in the theatre of football.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:03 am
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Alan Sheerer was a hopeless manager, he ensured Newcastle where relegated after being in charge for about 5 minutes.

My 2 cents would be Martin O'Neill. He was interviewed before and has ruled himself out subsequently but I have always rated him.

As a Spurs fan I also propose Chris Houghton.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:07 am
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i remember when he was managing Bolton (i think) he was bleating on about how English managers weren't being given the chance to manage the national side and that the only way he would ever get the job was if he was a foreigner called Sam Allardicci
well he finally got his chance and went about pissing it up the wall in spectacular fashion...no sympathy for such greed/stupidity/naivety...especially with the managerial experience he has


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:28 am
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My 2 cents would be Martin O'Neill.

Go and ask the Mackems how that went for them.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:31 am
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My 2 cents would be Martin O'Neill. He was interviewed before and has ruled himself out subsequently but I have always rated him.

More chance of you getting it, a non starter...


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:32 am
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Tony Pulis
You heard it here first 😉


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 10:59 am
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If you look at the young core of what should be the current team Stones, Dyer, Ali, Sterling, Rashford and Lingard plus some of the older players that have shown form currently or over the past year Lallana, Walker and Vardy. They are all players who would benefit from playing a high energy game, pressing the ball in the opposition half, and attacking quickly. The kind of game currently being employed by Klopp, Guardiola and Pochettino.

I Don't think for a moment that England can get any of those managers, but I don't see any of the old hands like Bruce utilising the tactics that would get the most out of the players. Time for a young manager IMO, I would give Howe his chance, at least the fans might see a team set up to entertain.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 6:00 pm
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Why would Eddie Howe take it - apart from money and the old classic "when your national team comes calling it's hard to say no" Eddie Howe is a young manager with the cut and thrust of daily weekly monthly management requirements and challanges. Manage England Eddie and play 5 ish games a year. Have your players one week before kick off and one maybe two days after final whistle. Have club managers having a strong influence when players are available. Don't stay put and continue to do an amazing job with the limited resources and finance available to you. Oh and your opportunity will come to manager a "bigger club"


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 7:48 pm
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Can't believe that fat **** 'apologising' for a lack of judgement and almost in the same breath saying 'entrapment won'. He's only sorry cos he got caught. Is it entrapment when you get caught red handed by a traffic warden or a speed camera! Shut up and piss off on holiday you arse. Hope he's banned from ever managing again. Ooh! I could crush a grape! I'm sure the Telegraph wouldn't have been investigating him if they didn't have some evidence to start with. I bet there's a few other dodgy geezers worried as well. These folks are just as dodgy in their own way as Lance Armstrong. Hope they all get caught.


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 9:12 pm
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So, National championship manager (or whatever it's called these days) competition, winner gets the job?


 
Posted : 28/09/2016 9:29 pm
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