New Definitions for a Modern World

Are there any others words that have changed over the years?

The definition of the word "legend".

Expert .. anything!

James 🙂

Artisan – Someone who’s watched a lot of YouTube and now considers themselves an expert.

The definition of the word “legend”.

The definition of the word “legend”.

No, that's always been your foot.

Bravo Cougar
APF

"Big Hitter"

"Political Heavyweight"

Influencer .. groans

Time-served. Used to mean a period of time perfecting a skill.

... and now it means you've been in prison.

Woke. Used to mean no longer asleep, has now been turned into a derogatory word jumped on by the DM reading right-wing brigade. As in "I don't watch Countryfile anymore as it's too bloody woke!" (Conversation I had with some knob at the weekend).

Engineer. Basically anyone who can wire a plug.

finephilly
Engineer. Basically anyone who can wire a plug.

FTFY

"Exciting"

It used to mean something that caused, well, a state of excitement and/or pleasurable anticipation

It's now used a lot at work to describe things like the new system that you do your mandatory anti money laundering training on, or a new instant access savings account.

Influencer

Urgh! 😫

Customer loyalty

Updated to mean a weakness to be exploited to increase director salaries and bonuses.

Are there any other words that have changed over the years?

Male and female.
Not going to get drawn into the usual STW argument about these, but I think it's clear that the definition of each is not what it was in our parents' time.

As in “I don’t watch Countryfile anymore as it’s too bloody woke!” (Conversation I had with some knob at the weekend).

Can you not refer to my mother like that! 🤦‍♂️

As in “I don’t watch Countryfile anymore as it’s too bloody woke!” (Conversation I had with some knob at the weekend).

I don't watch Countryfile anymore as it's padded-out bollox to fill an hour when there's really only 30 mins of content.

Ditto - Gardners' World.

🙂

Workshop.

If it doesn't have welding kit, a lathe or a hammer in it then you can get in the sea.

Hand crafted. Especially when used to describe crisps.

**** right off.

'Gifting'

Basically someone on the scrounge on Facebook.

Woke... has now been turned into a derogatory word

I genuinely don't understand this. "Woke" in the modern sense just means being aware of challenges which other people might be facing. On what ****ing level does someone have to be to think that's a bad thing? As insults go it's "political correctness gorn mayd" for the 21st Century.

Engineer. Basically anyone who can wire a plug.

Wiring a plug? Are you here from the 1980s?

"sorry", as in "i am sorry you took offence at...." my deliberately provocative words or actions

‘Gifting’

Doubly annoying when we already have a perfectly cromulent word in 'giving.'

See also, "inbox me." WTAF? I sent you a postcard when I was on holiday last week, were you letterboxed? I was near the sea, which you can get in.

Hand crafted. Especially when used to describe crisps.

There's a lot of this going about. "Hand finished." Aye right, you can hand-finish yourself, pal.

when did "lessons" become "learnings"....? Ugh

finephilly
Engineer. Basically anyone who can wire a plug.

FTFY

I used to run a warranty department for a cycle company and would groan every time someone used the words, 'Well, I'm an engineer...' Normally followed by something like, 'If it's done up properly it shouldn't work loose'. My previous career had been in the food industry where every machine was fitted with metal detectors, just in case anything fell into the food, having been done up properly by a team of actual engineers.

I recently heard a friend who currently works in a cycle warranty department describe how much they hate 'engineers'. 😀

This👇 isn't The Modern World

Troll - used to be someone who started/contributed a thread on an internet forum in a "devil's advocate" style to generate debate/flush out people who held outrageous prejudices.

Now - someone who sends vile abuse on twitter.

I thought a troll was a being from Nordic folklore.

has anyone said game-changer? as in, “this new thing is slightly better than the last! we hope!”

if it could be said with a vocal fry affectation it would be just perfect.

rooms becoming spaces

I thought a troll was a being from Nordic folklore.

language changes. have you been living under a bridge for the past 20 years?

rooms becoming spaces

Anything becoming "spaces" - the "customer space" 🤬

Bin dun a thousand times this thread needs closing.

rooms becoming spaces

My highfalutin marketing manager niece was phoning all the local Derbyshire pubs trying to find a place for her grandparents wedding anniversary do - she had her posh voice on and kept asking if they had an 'event space' - and just kept getting 'What's what of them luv? We've gorra' function room if that's what 'ya mean'!

"Reach out"

I can reach out to touch my toes - on a good morning once I've loosened off - but I will not "reach out" to you. I might call, e-mail or message you, but I won't reach out to you. Gah.

We’ve gorra’ function room if that’s what ‘ya mean’!

And what were they called before they became function rooms?

“Reach out”

I can reach out to touch my toes – on a good morning once I’ve loosened off – but I will not “reach out” to you. I might call, e-mail or message you, but I won’t reach out to you. Gah.

Agreed. It's only acceptable to use the phrase "reach out" in the workplace if you are a member of the Four Tops

And what were they called before they became function rooms?

Didn't exist - parties happened in Church or Village Halls! 🙂

language changes. have you been living under a bridge for the past 20 years?

👏👏👏

I can't believe no one has said "awesome" yet.

Used to refer to things like the power of the ocean, now it's used when someone brings you a cup of coffee...

I honestly can't grasp why "reach out" makes any bodies toes curl.

having been done up properly by a team of actual engineers

I hope not. I’d want a well trained fitter for that. Let the engineers design it then keep them well away from it.

(Yes, I’m an engineer - but I know when to leave it to the craftsmen/tradesmen)

Going on a journey, without actually gping anywhere.
Cascade this through your team. How exactl theres no fountain in this office

I thought a troll was a being from Nordic folklore.

language changes. have you been living under a bridge for the past 20 years?

Which was very obviously my point. Or are you trolling?

I honestly can’t grasp why “reach out” makes any bodies toes curl.

TBF, it makes them tap if it's the Four Tops doing it.

Troll – used to be someone who started/contributed a thread on an internet forum in a “devil’s advocate” style to generate debate/flush out people who held outrageous prejudices.

Now – someone who sends vile abuse on twitter.

What forums were you on? Meant the same thing to me for the past 25-odd years.

Wiring a plug? Are you here from the 1980s?

I wired one with my daughter just the other day.

it makes them tap if it’s the Four Tops doing it.

chapeau!

"Hack" for simple tips that have been known about for ages

It is actually the attempts by some to redefine "engineer" as an exclusive job description that is new, it used to be quite a broad term.

Trolling used to be an art form of winding people up on the internet without them being aware that you were doing it. Sort of the internet equivalent of starting a barroom brawl in a western and then just sitting back and watching it unfold. Now it’s just dickheads picking on people.

I think it was the popular tabloids that redefined the art of trolling.

I'm not an engineer either, but it's surprising how often i've been put in charge of heavy/dangerous machinery, just by demonstrating an enthusiasm for it.

'Reach out' is actually quite old (AT&T ad from 1984). It's more of an import from the USA.

Antisocial Media. Redefined from what it should have been to what it is now; a wart on the arse of modern humanity.

TBF, it makes them tap if it’s the Four Tops doing it.

That doesn't cut it for me in this thread, you're clearly over-reaching.

Trolling used to be an art form of winding people up on the internet without them being aware that you were doing it. Sort of the internet equivalent of starting a barroom brawl in a western and then just sitting back and watching it unfold. Now it’s just dickheads picking on people.

I miss Davidtaylforth

I can’t believe no one has said “awesome” yet.

i was going to, but had to water the lettuce in the school garden. this is not a euphemism, by the way.

i used to work with a “older” and rather posh gentleman. he was very pleased with himself when he managed to use “awesome” into a conversation. in his previous job he was a jesuit-educated latin teacher. he was a lot of fun.

anyway, awesome: to inspire awe. sounds a bit over the top when used to describe a tick tock account.

I miss Davidtaylforth

He was a great troll in the original internet version of the word. I hope he’s active on another forum or Facebook, Twitter etc. Just winding people up and giggling to himself.

"taking a deep dive"... yeah, hopefully into a 1inch pool of water 🙂

Bespoke.
Bespoke IT Solutions?
Bespoke Plumbing Services?

Trolling of course is actually related to fishing - casting a lure and waiting for bites ie trolling.  Its nothing to do with Scandinavian trolls who are nice cuddly creatures and I have a load of them to talk to.  None of mine live under bridges anyway.  They watch over me.

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Which was very obviously my point. Or are you trolling?

big no, i’m just being silly. no offence intended.

👏👏👏

thank you.

i loved those trolls. my sister had one with glass eyes that we would pop out and play marbles with.

I honestly can’t grasp why “reach out” makes any bodies toes curl.

"any bodies" makes my toes curl.

Wiring a plug? Are you here from the 1980s?

I wired one with my daughter just the other day.

Weird, I normally just use cable.

big no, i’m just being silly. no offence intended.

Sorry my 'are you trolling?' wasn't intended to sound quite as serious as it possibly did - it was supposed to be an acknowledgement that the word has indeed changed its meaning!

I have no idea why TJ believes that it is connected to fishing though. I suspect that he is trolling ....in the post-nordic pre-tabloid sense of the term.

i loved those trolls. my sister had one with glass eyes that we would pop out and play marbles with.

Should've seen that coming really.

Thats the derivation Ernie.  Or are you now trolling me in a meta sort of way that has left me confused?

https://www.thomasvan.com/random-philosophy/internet-slang-where-did-the-word-troll-come-from

Thats the derivation Ernie.

Conflicting opinion TJ:

https://www.howtogeek.com/465416/what-is-an-internet-troll-and-how-to-handle-trolls/

Trolls have existed in folklore and fantasy literature for centuries, but online trolling has been around for as long as the internet has existed.

'Get in the sea' used to mean 'go for a swim' but now it means 'stop annoying a middle-aged man'.

Are you two both unironically trolling each other over what "trolling" means?

Basically someone on the scrounge on Facebook.

@the-muffin-man - you might appreciate this

Super instead of very.
(HR) Business Partners - are they director level captains of industry making shrewd decisions or HR advisors?

Uber instead of very!

HR - is that what used to be Personnel? Well, it's People & Culture now.

I can’t believe no one has said “awesome” yet.

I was going to mention this. When I think of awesome I think of the first (and only time) I went skydiving. Just the sheer scale of the Earth slowly rising to meet me was genuinely awe inspiring.

I've truly embraced the new meaning now though. Every time someone says or does something even vaguely positive at work I refer to as awesome. Normally delivered in a completely deadpan tone.

'I fixed that typo in the presentation'

'Awesome.'

I thought this was going to be about Uxbridge English, seems not. But I'll post the link anyway, as it's good fun.

http://www.alspcs.com/main.html

So glad that others are wound up by 'deep dive'.  It always means shallow rather than deep these days.  Same with 'legendary', always means something you have never heard of before.  It's like there was a lazy marketing course 5 years ago and the graduates are now being let free on their own.   There will be another batch of phrases coming through in a couple of years to replace them.

Are you two both unironically trolling each other over what “trolling” means?

Surely not....😎

Can we drill down into the whys of our collective irk for these words and phrases?

I forgot billion.

A billion is a million million, not a thousand million.

I have no idea why TJ believes that it is connected to fishing though.

Reading his link, someone seams to have confused trolling with trawling, it is unclear if deliberately or not.