[Closed] New bike and dog are on the agenda.

Underrated dog the poodle.

You can never have too many bikes or dogs.

You have picked the wrong time to try and buy either.......wait 6 months

My wife and kids are desperate for a dog, as Patagonian has said it’s the wrong time to buy.  High demand & responsible breeders not breeding during lockdown means a sellers market = stupid prices and people wanting deposits before viewings as buyers are so willing to slap down the cash. Even worse that the current preference (I’m outvoted) is for a poodle cross which are even more in demand as the current dog to buy.

Bike = Trek Slash Dog = Chocky lab. Two best things in life.

Look up the dog breed adoption pages on Facebook. Rehome one that needs you.

Dog - this makes perfect sense.

Disc braked road bike? Why would you want something heavy, expensive and hassley when you could get a rim-braked road bike?

any dog that needs rehoming - unfortunately Manchester Dogs Home is closed at the moment.

Don't bother with the bike - if you are serious about having a dog in your life you won't have time to ride a bike unless it's a commuter.

This is speaking from experience - took this fella on two years ago, best thing I ever did, sold my MTB's as I prefer spending time with Bert.

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Treat yourself to a new bike and treat a homeless rescue dog to a permanent home?

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Someone mentioned poodle crosses so here's mine. Buddy the cavapoo doing his best yin Yang symbol

Up for sale now that his stock is so high 😀

Great dogs poodles. We got another one last year to go with our 7 year old.

Took about 5 or 6 months from when we stated looking. Top tip - don't make the mistake we did and buy a pup from a long way away. We (near Glasgow) bought a pup from north Wales. Took it to our vet 2 days later for it's injections only for our vet to immediately spot a flaw which was going to result in extensive dental specialist operations both now and possibly after adult teeth were in (lingually-displaced-canines). Apparently it is caused by a recessive gene so on average 1/4 of the pups in a litter will get it.

After we contacted the breeder and our vet E-mailed her vet (who had missed this) she took the pup back. I asked my vet what he would do in the same position and he said he would return it.

A couple of months later we found a local breeder in the Falkirk area and got a pup with no issues.

In general stadard poodles are intelligent. Fairly easy to train. Love people and other dogs. Playyful. Not a nasty bone in their bodies.

Faults? Well I said easy to train but our older poodle has a strong prey drive. Hunts mice in long grass and eats any she catches. If she gets started digging a hole there is some animal down she sometimes needs to go on the lead as she won't leave it alone. she is fine hillwalking where there is no sheep. Starts off chasing deer but comes back after 100 yards or so. I wouldn't trust her in a field of sheep. She was come back when coming across unexpected stray she in forests etc. but I wouldn't trust her in a field full.

I would of Said easy to house train as out older poodle was 100% trained after about a week with only a couple of accidents. Our younger poodle took much longer to train. Either just different dogs or maybe because the first poodle was summer litter and spent a lot of time in the owners garden with her kids before we got her.

Their coats are slightly different. THe older needs cut every 8 weeks but the younger with thicker more wooly coat needs done every 6 weeks.

she took the pup back

😳

and drowned it/hit it round the back of the head with a shovel/took it to a friendly shotgun owning farmer/palmed it off on someone else?

Any thoughts on my developing plan.

Yeah, clean up after your dog,  Don’t leave a pile of shit, don’t stick i in a bag and leave it at the side of a path in a tree or hanging from a fence.  As I once heard a great man explain to a dog owner, ‘it’s the 90% of dog owners that give the rest a bad name’ and I’d say he was pretty restrained given the circumstances.

Yeah, clean up after your dog,

I was riding along a byway this afternoon, passed a woman with two whippets, said hello. A few meters further on, I reached a fresh black plastic dog poo bag lying on the side of the trail.

I took it back for her, she was very grateful. "Oh I must have dropped it." Sure.

Don’t bother with the bike – if you are serious about having a dog in your life you won’t have time to ride a bike unless it’s a commuter.

Nonsense.

I wrote a long post but I deleted it to call 'troll'.

Don’t bother with the bike – if you are serious about having a dog in your life you won’t have time to ride a bike unless it’s a commuter.

Nonsense.

I wrote a long post but I deleted it to call ‘troll’.

Yeah **** em, open the back door and let them shit in the garden for half an hour. Job done.

After avoiding them for the ten years of my return to bicycles I gave in and got a road bike.
I have a Planet X Pro Carbon Evo Disc. It weighs bang on 8k with pedals and has been faultless (apart from 3 tiny screws going rusty).
With my MTB in Weymouth it has stopped me going insane during lockdown as the SS road bike sometimes just doesn’t work for me.

And dogs beat everything. Even bikes.

As someone with a 2014 Charge Plug 3 disc braked road/all road/gravel thing, a miniature poodle and a toy poodle I say go for it if you have the time to dedicate to a dog.

My bike is heavy for what it is, but it's a versatile bike and I like it.

My dogs are great pets, but would make terrible trail dogs as the undergrowth gets caught in their hair and their paws are so small they sink in soft ground. As such my cycling and dog walking are kept seperate.

We've had border collies in the past and aside from grooming poodles are much easier to live with as pets. They've less energy and ours are very happy with a couple of shortish walks and a lot of cuddles. They also have a fantastic temperament, are great with people and raise a smile from people on walks.

Don't know how much walking poodles need, but could easy affect your biking time.
Just checked and i've got 980km of dog walks this year, and only 440km of biking. (And that's only for 3 months as I work away from home).
Worth it for me tho

Our experience so far.....
Puppy 1 - agreed to buy a dog from a KC registered breeder only to find it readvertised the next day for £700 more. KC club will be getting a letter about that.
Puppy 2 - no visits allowed due to "Covid", dog delivered to your door after payment.
Puppy 3 - saw the dog on facetime but no mother visible (out for a walk). Agreed to buy the dog pending a visit next day to see the mother....dog apparently sold overnight.

As per my post above I'd wait but I'm not the driving this and our timing is sh*t as we wanted one to coincide with retirement.

Difficult time to be buying dogs for sure. As mentioned above you'd do well to look at rehoming a rescue. Lots of pedigree rescue sites if that's your thing. Though I'd recommend a good cross breed, less risk of inbred genetic issues.

Not sure about the "dogs and bikes are mutually exclusive" thing. Dogs and bikes can co-exist very happily. My lab/collie cross (Collador?) used to do 25k loops in the peaks no problem. Still comes out with me on local rides. I guess it depends on how often you ride. If you're used to doing 40k every day you may struggle. Also depends on the breed. A Chihuahua may struggle on a long ride!

If you want a dog that you can exercise and also ride your bike regularly I'd suggest a lurcher, or any sight hound. 40 minutes charging about twice a day and they'll happily spend the rest of the day dozing. However you'll have to sign over the rights to your sofa..

I know the Greyhound rescue place I get mine from (which I would really recommend, very responsible & professional, pm me for details) are still rehoming.
Having trouble typing this as dog came up for a cuddle and is stashed under my armpit sighing contentedly!
We both have asthma, allergies etc and don't seem to get set off by Greyhounds nor do they moult that much (by contrast I grew up with a Lab O.M.G so much moulting).
+1 for them having low walking requirements, you can go out for a nice long ride while they snooze then take the dog out for a gentle sniff+widdle for half an hour.
They can go longer but may not move much for the rest of the day!
Do have to be kept on the lead though as bred to chase first think never, doesn't seem to bother them at all tho.

You will be fine with a dog and a bike. Dont get the dog into it too early.
Had some great times out with Fin and the bike. She loves it

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Also depends on the breed. A Chihuahua may struggle on a long ride!

A Chihuahua will fit a decent size bar bag. Problem solved ride as far as you want!

What sort of stack and reach ballpark are you looking at?

On the road, presuming you run a bit lower offroad, what pedal top to saddle top height?

Budget?

Tarmac and speed priority, or mixed surface and comfort?

https://www.merlincycles.com/wilier-jareen-race-tiagra-gravel-bike-179193.html for £900 is the cheapest hydraulic brake drop bar bike I'm aware of, in plenty of sizes that are claimed to be in stock.

Given the shift to working from home I'm also thinking a dog is on the cards, just need to ensure between my wife and I one of us will always be here weekdays. I'm up for a rescue though, hate the idea of funding a puppy farm just to have something that's cute for a while. I'm also prepared to wait for the right dog at the right time.

As for the bike, I have an arkose d1, it's the only bike that gets used these days, it has discs it does road and a bit lumpier if need be. It's quick enough for me to not be any quicker than it is.

I have a 2 year old black Labrador that we rescued for being completely hyper. She just loves running and bikes. We move to Speyside in 10 days, I'll be retired at 55 and she's not going to know what's hit her! Even within our 5-mile radius, we've got a 2,500ft mountain to run up, or countless forest tracks and trails to ride around - just got a Diverge carbon for riding duties.

Can I just clarify that the bike will be procured on a cycle to work scheme and the dog will be a rescue. As stated above my timing is so wrong but we are in no hurray.

Cude attain is looking favourable and even tempted to try the GTC.

This thread needs more Bert

Bert, Bert, Bert!

Yeah **** em, open the back door and let them shit in the garden for half an hour. Job done.

I've had dogs my entire life. I'm self employed and work from home so my girl has been with me more than is usually possible. From a puppy. She is my everything as am I to her.

Any dog owner should appreciate that you, as a person, have many interests. But to your dog, you are their absolute everything and they don't live as long as you'd like.

I'm not sure where your arrogance comes from. I still call troll and have to ignore your baffling and frankly unnecessary superiority complex.

Meet Jimpy 😊

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@tracey Great pics, she really is loving it 😍

Had some great times out with Fin and the bike. She loves it

...palmed it off on someone else?

I believe that you meant to say:

'the breeder rightfully took the dog back, understanding that it was an unsuitable home. Said dog was eventually rehomed with loving owners who are in a far better position to give them the life they deserve'.

EVERY reputable breeder would rather take a dog back than see it be sold on and/or placed in rescue. Indeed they tell you as much before you leave.

Not that rescue is a bad thing at all, but the breeder already knows the pup and its heritage. All the *reputable* breeder cares about is the welfare of the dog.