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Ha, was just thinking of posting the same thing myself!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/science-environment-56101496
Live coverage on the BBC as well.
This one too - "Clean Feed" from mission control
Im enjoying this. Mind blown a dozen times already by the numbers involved,
Just landed!
That was pretty tense!
Superb!
Amazing stuff. I thought from the telemetry numbers that it was coming in too fast.
That’s cool AF
FFS. Thought we had been watching the stream live for the last hour, but have just seen the messages above and it turns out we are watching 1 hour behind live.
Brilliant - thanks for the alert. 😃
Great to watch!
Amazing stuff 🙂
Bloody brilliant.
That was awesome, at least one of my kids appreciated the momentous occasion, my 8yo went “oh, it’s just rocks”.
And tomorrow, it switches on its onboard autonomous helicopter drone. That will be very cool.
Shite, I forgot all about this and missed it.
Have to throw a question in here.
To what end ?. How is this going to improve humanity with everything thats going on on Earth currently.
An awful lot of money mostly coming from the government that could be spent on social projects.
It's certainly one way of looking at it. Much as i love Gil, it's a short sighted one.
To what end ?. How is this going to improve humanity with everything thats going on on Earth currently.
An awful lot of money mostly coming from the government that could be spent on social projects.
NASA's annual budget is about $23bn.
The Pentagon's annual budget is 30x that, $700bn, on the rare occasions the Pentagon actually knows what it's spending and where: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-42954050
To what end ?. How is this going to improve humanity with everything thats going on on Earth currently.
An awful lot of money mostly coming from the government that could be spent on social projects.NASA’s annual budget is about $23bn.
And that 23b pays for a lot of jobs of high level scientists and engineers who do stuff that attracts young people to science and engineering, most of whom probably won't go into space science but some of whom will end up developing stuff that we haven't even thought of that will make everyone's lives better in the future.
What was the point of Sputnik when it was launched (other than as a cold war statement) - where would we be now without satellites?
What was the point of the laser when it was developed?
etc.
Great result....so use to SpaceX livestreams of launches that didnt have quite the same impact watching the control room but thats just the landing, its the pics/vid/data from the rover that are going to be really interesting bit
Shame if this thread heads off in another direction answering the 'why' question 😐
+1 to everything thepurist has said.
Didn't the UAE put a probe on Mars a few days ago? Did anyone check to see if there was a missing princess on board...?
Right, that'll be me hunted down by an assassination squad now...
Mrs oldnick managed not to get annoyed at me as I exclaimed "it's going at mach 26, no, it's going at mach 6, no, it's mach 1.6" etc. As said above the numbers are staggering.
Why space exploration? Why pure research? Why art? Why bloody not?
An awful lot of money mostly coming from the government that could be spent on social projects.
Despite it actually being a fraction of other budgets, and also having myriad benefits (some of which may not be realised or envisioned yet, but enabled by this kind of thing), you also need to recognise that it's not an either/or situation.
Governments don't spend money on social projects by choice, not because they spent it all on science and research. They could easily spend money on BOTH.
Just like we* could cure hunger and huge amounts of preventable disease if we decided to.
* the royal We, I doubt you or I could even with our lucky pants on and giving it our A-game, but society/governments could if the will was there, it's not a matter of money.
Mark Rober
To what end ?
It beats carrying a bike up and down Munros.
But more seriously - the acquisition of knowledge.
some more pics have come out
How many and what kind of classified experiments will this be doing? Surely they wouldn't send it all the way up without some intelligence gathering going on other than the stuff we hear about
It’s given me a new appreciation of the forum’s EDL thread.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-56133281
intelligence gathering
There's probably more intelligence on Mars than down here at the moment.
Great little story about a Devon based firm that made the parachute:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-56123602
Scones and inter galactic hardware - what a great county. Pass the cream.
How many and what kind of classified experiments will this be doing?
couple of main things.
1/ trying out a helicopter as a proof of concept experiment
2/ looking for signs of life (similar to how they do it on earth IIRC)
3/ collecting interesting samples to be brought back to earth (towards the end of the decade)
And tomorrow, it switches on its onboard autonomous helicopter drone. That will be very cool.
For anyone who has ever played Universal Paperclips that statement is quite concerning!
That shot of the lander and parachute was taken from the MRO which was 700km away at the time and travelling at 3km/s.
As for cost: the entire Apollo programme lasted 12 years and cost roughly $195 billion adjusted to today's prices. As a comparison in 2019 Americans spent $37 billion on pet food, i.e. over twice as much per annum. So the figures sound big (they are) aren't a significant proportion of the economy.
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To what end ?. How is this going to improve humanity with everything thats going on on Earth currently.
It feeds mankind's hunger for knowledge, so to that end is money very well spent.
1/ trying out a helicopter as a proof of concept experiment
2/ looking for signs of life (similar to how they do it on earth IIRC)
3/ collecting interesting samples to be brought back to earth (towards the end of the decade)
No I know that, I mean stuff they won't tell us about. Surely they won't go all that way and not get some national strategic gain from it?
I don't know either. They won't tell us.
Someone else compared the cost of the entire Perserverence mission ($2.7 billion) to the money we have spent on track and trace ($12.7 billion)....
most of the money you are quoting is actually for testing.
No I know that, I mean stuff they won’t tell us about. Surely they won’t go all that way and not get some national strategic gain from it?
all the information gathered from these trips paves the way for humans to land on mars.
most of the money you are quoting is actually for testing.
True...80% according to Dido Harding, but that means $2.54 billion...BILLION... on a track and trace system that doesn't work.
Some great videos have been released (well the second one isn't a video as such, but you won't be disappointed)
That is so fabulous. But where are the martians?
No I know that, I mean stuff they won’t tell us about. Surely they won’t go all that way and not get some national strategic gain from it?
All the raw data NASA gather from any their missions is free to use and open source. Sure they won’t give you their analysis of the data for free as that’s where the real value in the data is. Eg you’ll be able to see sensor 5 had a reading of 12. That might not mean a lot on its own but combined together with sensor 3 showing reading of 6 that mean they have detected some organic compound or something.
I've watched enough films to know nothing good will come from bringing samples back to Earth, the pictures are cool though :p
They've released sounds from Mars too
https://soundcloud.com/nasa/sets/sounds-from-mars
I was kinda hoping they'd share [url=
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video of the landing
Hasn't the Mars rover already been to Mars? I know its an astonishing achievement but just thought it had already happened in the last 10 years or so.
There's more than one rover on there. Curiosity landed in 2012, this new one is Perseverance.