[Closed] Neighbour barking dog

Speak to him?

Nah, he thinks I’m a dick, I’ve been a bit short with him and other neighbours through lockdown as have been feeling the pressure a bit.. TBH, I don’t think much of any of them now.

Too late for that I fear.

it’s only out there for short periods to have a wee play and a pee.

Is it barking indoors? How much barking?

So, what next ?

You could move to a private island?

Not sure what can be done really? It isn't out very often by the sounds of it so I guess the problem is you. Weird passive-aggressive tactics like installing motion sensors will just annoy your neighbour and mark you down as the neighbourhood weirdo.

Don’t think it barks indoors, just when it gets out and maybe just for 5 mins as it’s excited. Think my ultrasonic machines make it bark more but hey ho..

If it was persistent you could contact council but, from your post, I don't think the council would be interested - it's only out for short periods.
Why not talk with neighbour?
If you want to destroy neighbourly relations get a dog whistle and a hornit (140db) and use them when the dog barks.
Get a recording of a lion roaring and play that loudly outside.
I don't think you have many options - unfortunately.

It’s probably annoying and frustrating him in equal measure. Having a neighbour put some daft ultrasonic jobbies in surely only escalates animosity between yourselves. They sound like responsible dog owners from what you said..the fencing is probably to shield you from its noise as much as possible.

Wait, hold on…is this one of these reverse thread things where you’re actually the dog owner encouraging hatred towards the knob next door putting up dog deterrents?

paino, yes, and no.

I am the dog owner, and I’m trying to suss out the why around the neighbour putting in these machines that are upsetting our dog. All is factual. I don’t hate the guy, he has become very odd in last few years ( a married with teenagers 50 something bloke with a high paid job). He has started complaining to env health about other neighbours washing cars at 8am, about bins blowing over, all sorts.

If you, the installer, think the ultrasonic things are making it worse...

Could you not... take the ultrasonic things down?

Just a thought.

Do I win anything?
My (new) opinion then. He’s lonely and probably clinically depressed. Take the guy out for a beer, explain your situation, get him to meet, even walk the dog. Sounds like he needs help.

Wouldn't the dog deterrent things just upset the dog more?

Re the plywood you could get into a great battleships type game of strategy and deception moving your dog enragers or drill a network of tiny holes in the ply from the back, might take you months to get the ply transparent enough for the detectors but definitely worth it

Ultrasonic machines are meant to drive the animal elsewhere. It’s in its own garden, where else is it meant to go? It’s not doing it at anti social times, it’s not doing it for long. Dog doesn’t seem to be the problem

Ha, ha, thought it was a strange initial post.

One possibility is that the neighbors hate dogs. My parents are generally not entirely unreasonable but my dad absolutely hates dogs. To the point that they will not have friends and relatives around who have dogs and it has lead to a fair few arguments. Unfortunately, I doubt you will be able to change how they feel. If you want to appease, then you could negotiate on what bits of the garden the dog uses and timings.

ahh I see. Drilling holes in your dog is likely to be counterproductive so forget that.

Paino, he’s unapproachable, back in the day we had garden bbq’s and beers, now he won’t nod a hello, to me, the wife, or any of the neighbours. My wife took his son to the station the other day as he was walking in the rain as she drive to work. Agree he’s likely sad and down, but he cannae take it out on the wee dog…

It’s intermittent and infrequent. I’m afraid you will have to suck it up. Why not offer to take the dog for a walk.

I’m a dog owner with a puppy who barks with excitement. I dislike barking too, and try and entertain my puppy when he’s in the garden. It’s infrequent and he gets excited. I’d be annoyed if my neighbour installed motion sensors and ultrasound overlooking my garden too. It won’t be helping.

paino - you are Sherlock Holmes and I claim my £5.

^^^ a tenner if he’ll be Lucy Lui…, my dear Watson 😁

However, back on topic..

Get the dog some noise cancelling headphones.

^^^ i actually did wonder about that !, he says naw..

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So this dog and it’s barking annoys me so I have installed some motion activated ultrasonic cat and dog deterrent machines along our boundary fence, right at the edge pointing directly into the fence and his area.

This is so weird and hostile I wouldn't know where to go from there. If the emitters are right at the edge I'd be very tempted to shut them up with a squirt of expanding foam but I can't really see that ending in handshakes and smiles. Maybe report them to the council as a noise nuisance - which tbf they are.

Bah, well played Paino - I was trying to work out how this was Ukraine/Russia

Is it always about noise ?  Wonder if he's got tinnitus or something

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/hyperacusis/

What's this nonsense about getting back on topic?
This is STW.

Sorry - what if OP bums the dog on the neighbour's lawn (pre-sausaged, of course) ?

^^ **** that, I’m not shaggin ma own dog !

^^ **** that, I’m not shaggin ma own dog !

Noted that you're not ruling out dog shagging completely.

^^^ I haven’t done a parachute jump either, and I probably never will…

Bin the ultrasonics, get yourself some NC earbuds/headphones and move on with your life.
You’re making an active choice to let a neighbours dog annoy you.
Stop doing it.
You’ll feel happier once you get over it.
I’m not blaming either side btw.

@martymac read the whole thread!

Is it just me, but paino correctly suggested that the OP was actually the one with the dog , which the OP admitted was correct , then this was followed by several posts that would suggest the dog belonged to the neighbour. Do people not read the threads before posting ??

it’s only out there for short periods to have a wee play and a pee

How often are these short periods though and is there any rhyme or reason to the timing. It could be its even more stressful for them having the barking for several minutes before stopping and then just waiting for it to kick off again half an hour or so later.

I had hoped it would shut the animal up, but it seems to be making it more agitated and more barky

Or it might be they are trying to make the garden uncomfortable for it and hence hoping it would stop going out there?
Certainly odd behaviour from them but might be worth expanding your attempts to get into their mind.

I think you have cause to complain to Env Health, if the ultrasonics are triggered by something in your own garden.

Yeah I clearly didn’t rtwt.
Sounds to me like the neighbour has some issues. So, you could try and avoid him completely, or kick his head in.

Difficult one with neighbour.

Take the dog for longer walk so that it is tired and sleep more rather than getting too excited?

People that let there dogs bark in the garden are absolute ***** in my opinion. Used to have a neighbour who's dog barked continually for about 45 minutes at a time.
Got in touch with dog warden and it ended. And then they sold house and moved.

I'm with the person who does not like the dog barking in next doors garden.  Its unsocial

och a wee doggy barking for 5 minutes when its let out is hardly endless barking! one of our neghbours lets their dog out at 10pm on te dot, it barks precisely once presumably to relieve the stress of the day,i like it.

Hoours of howling and barking on the other hand sucks balls.

Do people not read the threads before posting ??

Are you new here? 🤣

I'd be onto Environmental Health - not sure they can prove or do much, but I can't think of anything else.

I don’t know, but what is the dB rating on the ultrasonic jobbies?
I’d like to wager that antisocial noise regs won’t include any stipulation about frequency but will include amplitude…

We had this problem with a neighbour’s dog, barking for about 40 mins every night around 2300
Another neighbour put a note through his door telling him if the dogs didn’t stop barking he would “put a nice tasty steak over the wall, if you know what I mean “
They have not barked since
Not saying it’s right , but it worked

I’m glad you ended up being the dog owner because the whole time I was thinking ‘god what a miserable sod it’s 5 minutes worth of barking, get a grip!’. Yes barking endlessly is unacceptable but so to is children bouncing on a screechy trampoline for hours on end. He clearly has some issues or is like so many people nowadays and is just overly miserable for no real need. Don’t think there’s much you can do, doesn’t sound like he’ll listen as doesn’t seem a reasonable neighbour really.

With all the twists its hard to keep up but reads like the owner is not doing much about the barking. Its a barky dog so it barks. Sounds like the dog needs some training. Better for the neighbours and the dog.

och a wee doggy barking for 5 minutes when its let out is hardly endless barking! one of our neghbours lets their dog out at 10pm on te dot, it barks precisely once presumably to relieve the stress of the day,i like it.

Quite possibly the dog barks once at the door to be let back in the house, thats what our dog does.
We have a neighbour with a dog that constantly barks, drives me up the wall. When our neighbour has a social gathering, it quite often gets locked in the garden. This then turns into 30 minutes of barking/howling/crying at the door to get back in. Once caught the brother locking the poor thing in the Wendy house. People are arseholes.

Our next door neighbours dog barks and howls constantly if they leave it in the house on its own. I had to have words after it kept happening daily. Still does it occasionally. Does my head in.

och a wee doggy barking for 5 minutes when its let out is hardly endless barking!

My adjoined neighbour lets their dog out at 6am every day. It’s barks while it’s shitting in their garden and wakes my son up every day. They then stand in the garden at 6:30 shouting and clapping for it to come back in

My neighbour two doors down lets their out at 7am till 12 noon while they’re at work. It randomly barks throughout this time as it can’t get back in. This is annoying when you’re trying to work.

Another who backs onto us lets theirs out to do it’s last shit of the day at 11pm every day. It barks nonstop for 30 minutes.

And finally, the neighbour four doors down just lets their little rat out onto the street every morning to do it’s business on the pavement. Unsurprisingly they never pick it up.

All of these dogs were acquired in the last 18 months.

All of these owners are scum.

Some great responses, thank you. Re the barking, yes, he is excited to go out the back to sniff for squirrels and the like so when the door opens he runs round his territory a few times barking at all and nothing, it’s probably nowhere near 5 mins, probably not much more than a minute all in.

The irony is that the noise from the sound devices make him bark more, rather than less. I don’t really want it to escalate as the idea of a tasty steak over the fence is not outwith the guys capability IMO 😟

Move?

There’s a cat that sometimes comes in the garden over the same bit of fence, our dog had taken to preemptively running at the fence & barking when we let him out, whether the car was there or not. It was about 50/50 whether he would do it or not, presumably he could smell it and had seen it a few times. He’d bark For maybe 30 seconds if that.

Because I don’t want to annoy our neighbours and be “that” dog owner, we now take him out in to the garden on the lead with a pocket full of treats and do some training. Once he’s lost interest in the exciting bit of fence he gets let off the lead to do his thing. It’s taken a few weeks of effort but he’s quiet nearly every time now.

Barking dogs are annoying, especially if it’s a routine thing and not everyone is awake between your sociable hours.

Re the barking, yes, he is excited to go out the back to sniff for squirrels and the like so when the door opens he runs round his territory a few times barking at all and nothing, it’s probably nowhere near 5 mins, probably not much more than a minute all in.

That should be fixable with some training. I'd get on it sooner rather than later.

Quite possibly the dog barks once at the door to be let back in the house, thats what our dog does.
We have a neighbour with a dog that constantly barks, drives me up the wall. When our neighbour has a social gathering, it quite often gets locked in the garden. This then turns into 30 minutes of barking/howling/crying at the door to get back in. Once caught the brother locking the poor thing in the Wendy house. People are arseholes.

You are my alternate personality and I want my tenner.

We fell out with them when they tried to blame us for their dog scratching and breaking through their fence panel. Which was rotten. The panel that is. Surprisingly that was not the first disagreement between us.

Have you told him that the ultrasonics are making the dog bark more?
There must be some kind of rule about aiming them at your property?
I'd be tempted to wait until he was out and just go round and remove the batteries.
Bet it'd take a good while before he realised.

Walk the dog instead of letting it out in the garden?

^^^ that would be ideal, but the guy wont speak to me, or any of the other neighbours any more. He was always a bit odd, but through WFH for a few years and stuff he has become very strange, most likely suffering some mental health issues. His wife seems oblivious to it, and his teenage sons are good pals with ours.

As I mentioned earlier, my wife dropped one of their boys at the station the other day as he was walking in the rain, and until recently we regularly gave their elder son a lift to a cafe where he and our eldest both worked.

The guy has turned into mr unreasonable..

I do think we will try and train the dog out of barking in the garden tho

Phi5556 is a god amongst men. Good on you 🙂

Walk the dog instead of letting it out in the garden?

we do, see earlier, he gets at least 3 decent walks a day. I don't see why he shouldn't get out in our garden though..

. I don’t see why he shouldn’t get out in our garden though..

Because he makes a nasty noise and disturbs people. ( from what you said)

I experienced the same thing but the neighbours used to let the dogs out into the garden at 6am and midnight, as well as all the times in between. They were completely unbothered by the barking themselves - it's like they had a mental block - but it drove me around the bend. They never walked the dogs which made them worse.

In the end I moved and only wish I'd done it earlier. Didn't lose money but now I know why I got the house for a bargain price in the first place.

You have to declare disputes with your neighbours when you sell if you complained to the council or dog warden, so think carefully before doing either.

Phi5556 is a god amongst men. Good on you 🙂

I wouldn’t go that far, I’m sure I’ve got plenty of other flaws 😁

To the point that they will not have friends and relatives around who have dogs and it has lead to a fair few arguments.

I don’t want dogs in my house either, why is that such a bad thing? Why take a dog round to someone’s house when you know they can’t stand them?

They were completely unbothered by the barking themselves – it’s like they had a mental block

People who don’t seem to be bothered are the weirdest. I can ignore various types of noise but dog barking is very intrusive in its nature. People like that just don’t care about their animals which is the saddest part.

I don’t want dogs in my house either, why is that such a bad thing? Why take a dog round to someone’s house when you know they can’t stand them?

I read that as won’t have dog owning relatives around, even without the dogs - which does seem unreasonable!

Fair enough not to want the dogs in his house though.

I was thinking this was some kind of Ukraine thread so I was going to suggest invading his house and pretend to rescue him.

However it seems escalation is required and if noise is the chosen weapon I would start to learn the drums, badly, when he is in.

training the dog is always a good idea, but not because - unreasonable neighbor, because - responsible owner. it'll help when out and about walking.

i think the only sensible response is - get a bigger dog! thats how these things are resolved, right? Retaliation.

Because I don’t want to annoy our neighbours and be “that” dog owner, we now take him out in to the garden on the lead with a pocket full of treats and do some training. Once he’s lost interest in the exciting bit of fence he gets let off the lead to do his thing. It’s taken a few weeks of effort but he’s quiet nearly every time now.

Barking dogs are annoying, especially if it’s a routine thing and not everyone is awake between your sociable hours.

Same here, I find barking dogs quite irritating so we trained it out of ours so he doesn't bark at anything when he's out in the garden or on walks. The only time he barks now is when someone knocks at the door, he's getting better with that, he forgets himself initially and goes nuts then remembers and calms it down to a few yips and a general rumbling, then realises whoever is at the door isn't very interesting and goes back to sleep 😀

Buy a noisier pet? Cockerels? He'll soon forget about the barking dog.

OP ... if you can't talk to the guy, why not his wife or teenage son, if they're more reasonable?

His wife seems oblivious to it, and his teenage sons are good pals with ours.

She won't be - she's probably sick of hearing him moan about your dug and doesn't want to make a fuss.

The guy has turned into mr unreasonable..

To what extent have you considered that your wee cute dug and your behaviour are actually part of the problem? If he's having issues generally, isn't a good communicator and finds the barking irritating I can see how he's now faced with neighbours who bought a dog that barks and when he's tried (badly) to fix this with the ultrasonics have gone for the fence reinforcements approach instead of training the dog... It may not be rational to be so infuriated with a cute wee dog just being a cute wee excitable dog, but that doesn't mean this is not the source of the issue.

People love their dogs and like their children they can't see that their behaviour is not always to be admired or just the way they are.

I do think we will try and train the dog out of barking in the garden tho

that does seem like the obvious solution, and reducing the amount of time he gets in the garden until he can go out there with minimum fuss. In your shoes I would drop a note through his door, or talk to his wife, saying "look this could get silly with you buying more dog scarers and me building walls to block them. We are going to try and train the dug, but can you turn the scarers off for a while as they make him worse." If that doesn't work and they are not human audible then he might find the batteries don't last very long in the scarers!

^^^ his teenage sons don't talk to him either !

I will try speaking to his wife, though suspect she has no idea he has installed these things. This is the same woman who came to our door just after we moved in, 20 yrs ago, estate was still a building site and we had lots of power cuts - she said her power was off so what should she do with her freezer - open the door on it until power came back on... ? I said that wasn't the best plan. She is a head teacher, poor kids !

poly - all good points, thank you. We have only had the dog for 15 months, the chap stopped speaking to all neighbours and started reporting some of them to Env health for other things way before that. None of his complaints were upheld - things like the guy across the road washing his car with a pressure washer at 8 am on a Saturday - not a particularly considerate thing to do mind you !

Get a bigger dog. Start with a beagle then see what he does. If he responds upgrade to a border collie. Continue this until you have a St. Bernard. That will learn him.

A dog barking a couple of times a day for a short period really isn't a nuisance - and the council would probably laugh at him if he complained.

A dog left outside for hours on end barking constantly would piss anyone off.

OP - I'd get some chickens as well if you have the space! 🙂

^^^ haha, chickens 🙂

some great points, and whilst I don't see how his limited barking should be an issue I can now see it may be contributory to the man's issues. That said more houses have dogs than not in our road now, and none of them are silent. Will def try and train him to be a bit less barky, and will try find a way to get the noise machines willingly removed.

Have a street party,invite him,his family and everyone on the street. Get him really drunk and then convince him to go MTBing with you at Mugdock. Once he sees your skilz on display he will want to be your new best friend and everything will be forgiven.#mightjustwork. 😉 🙂

If you really want ramp up the noise though get a rubber basketball - our Jack Russell is beside himself with excitement when that comes out. He can push it around the lawn then try and hump it.

#livinghisbestlife

That said more houses have dogs than not in our road now, and none of them are silent.

How loud/frequent are the other dogs. If there are a whole bunch going off from time at random times then it could be rather irritating and he may just be taking it out on the one he has access to.

You can't stop a dog occasionally barking, like you can't stop the kid across the road revving his motorbike for no good reason, like you can't stop the kids over the fence from squealing while playing outside (which causes the dog to bark), like you can't stop next doors cats shitting in your garden, like you can't stop the bloke a few doors up playing with a different powertool all weekend every weekend.

If a dog is barking excessively (which is doesn't sound like this one is) then my attention would turn to what's wrong with the dog.

If you really want ramp up the noise though get a rubber basketball

we have a hoop and ball, he asked us a few years back to stop our kids using it as the noise was stressing out his elderly mother who comes round a lot.. We complied..

🙂 @fasthaggis

How loud/frequent are the other dogs.

random, probs not dissimilar to ours, you can't really hear any of them much inside - modern double glazed detached houses. None of them bark early am or into evening - folks nearby are generally all pretty decent and considerate

I’d be tempted to wait until he was out and just go round and remove the batteries.
Bet it’d take a good while before he realised.

Beat me to it, I was going to say the same thing. They're ultrasonic, how would he know? (Mind you, he sounds like the type to have CCTV pointing at his garden and at all the neighbours.)

I'm a bit confused though. You know he's installed these things and suspect his wife doesn't? How do you know more about the contents of his back yard than those living there, especially if they're right up against the wall as you say?

I appreciate that like the 'about to become a parent' thread this discussion is likely to divide into haters vs apologists (we already have several "it's only a dog" posts) but the uncomfortable truth is that a barking dog is bloody annoying. You're thinking "it's only for a couple of minutes" and honestly it sounds like you're being relatively reasonable, but he's next door thinking "that $%^&ing thing is off again, that's the third time today!" I don't have the first clue how you might train a dog not to bark, but if it were me I'd be looking into it.