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Annoyingly it seems our 9 year old Neff has decided to expire, and it's not going to be economical to repair.
Looking for replacements, the cheaper end of the market gets some suspect reviews, so is it worth spending £5-600 on another Siemens/Bosch/Neff?
I don't particularly want to spend a grand on a Meile, considering they arn't supposedly any better than other decent makes these days, nor do they do a proper fully integrated option from what I can see.
Any recommendations?
Bosch is a good baseline. Avoid anything by Hoover, from our current experience. 2 years old and almost ready for the tip. Wasn't a cheap one either.
We recently got a Siemens WM14Q360GB, £400 from In Stock Appliances, who delivered and took the old one away.
Researched in Which and various review sites. We wanted one which could delay start for overnight washes and choices were limited with this option. 4 months in it's all good and the washing is much better the old machine, and it doesn't sound like a Hope Freehub like the old one did 😀
Bosch taking over our white goods selection at the moment - gone for the basic models but seem to do the job and last well
Got an LG direct drive, brilliant bit of kit.
Bosch Classixx 1200 Express, coming up to 10 years and its never missed a beat.
I noticed some great deals in John Lewis.
£350 for a Seimens down from £500 I think.
Bosch +1
Ours has been pretty well neglected since I bought it 8 years ago and regularly gets filthy biking kit chucked in without being hosed down first. Ours is a basic model, I think it was £250, so it's a small drum with no timer readout. There's only 2 of us in the household though.
Combination of water, soap and electricity seems to do them all in sooner rather than later.
Bosch, Siemens, Whirlpool and Zanussi all seem to give 4 years service plus or minus a few months. Currently giving an Indesit Innex a go as it was decent value and their dish washers have proven surprisingly durable in our hands averaging 8-9 years a go.
i've had good experiences from cheap bosch ones in the past. it's what i'll be buying next time around.
Current integrated kitchen appliances are all still working fine nearly 12 years after being fitted! Mix of Zanissi, AEG & Electrolux.
Gave the old Bosch dishwasher & Hotpoint washing machine to a work mate and despite having 4 kids in the house they are still going strong @ over 20 years old.
I have to ask WTF are people doing to kit for it to only last 4 years?
You can pick up an entry model Miele for around £500 - same tank-like build as the more expensive models but with fewer electronic gubbins to go wrong.
Take care with Mielie. We ripped the door seal within the first 6 months and it was a £188 repair. There were no manuals obviously online to do it myself which had been easy on our previous Bosch.
Beco, or maybe that's too cheap?
Happy with ours.
We have bought zanussi and bosch over the last 20 years, 2 zanussi and 1 (current) bosch .8 years approx each zanussi and 3 or 4 years on current bosch. Would recommend either and do not get a fancy machine (you will probably use 4 programmes why buy one with 20) and avoid washer dryers like the plague.all machines £300-£450
+1 for washing machines with direct drive motors, we've been really impressed with the samsung we bought last year.
Our beko has been first class.
As above avoid anything by hotpoint
Our Bosch one is probably 9 or 10years old now and has been to Australia and back when we briefly emigrated and still works fine.
Probably tempted fate now I have said that.
I too bought an LG direct drive machine a few years ago. It was expensive but I was keen to get it for the long term - liked idea of no brushes to fail in the motor - a machine that should last for the long term. It was very quiet and smooth - I was very impressed.
Imagine my suprise when at 3.5 yrs old the bearings failed. It had a 3 yr guarantee and LG refused to make any goodwill contribution to the repair (as is their right).
Expensive machine bought specifically to last was uneconomic to repair and went to the tip.
Will never buy an LG product of any type again. Have a Siemens now with 5 yr warranty. We're three years in so far with no issues.
Have our evenings really come to this 😐
Then again - Im a SAMSUNG fan all the way, wanted a Miele but weighed up the costs and happy I made the right choice.
We literally just bought one today because the bearings on our old "Creda Super Wash 1000" finally gave up the ghost (after a decade or two) and it wasn't worth replacing them.
We went for [url= http://ao.com/product/WMB714422-Beko-Washing-Machine-White-34471.aspx ]this Beko[/url] for five excellent reasons:
• Decent spec: A++ energy, 7kg load, 1400rpm, quick wash, self clean, timer, delayed started, child lock, lots of programmes, temperature control
• Good reviews on ao.com
• it was relatively cheap (£219 from AO)
• it matches our Beko tumble drier which has been very good
• the repair guy happened to have one sitting in his van. 🙂
There is a [url= http://ao.com/product/ECOWMB81445LW-Beko-Washing-Machine-White-26084.aspx ]larger 8kg load version[/url] which is practically identical for another £30.
Samsung Eco bubble. Cost £500+ last year. It's ace. Indesit before that lasted 8 years.
WTF are people doing to kit for it to only last 4 years?
Probably using it in hard water areas. Anything involving heating water gets destroyed very quickly round here.
We've just bought a Siemens after our last one packed up after 10 years. A big advantage of Bosch/Neff/Siemens IME is that if they do go wrong or you break something the parts are easy to get and there are parts diagrams on-line.
I pointed out to Mrs R that we could have had a £200 washing machine instead but she said I'd have to stay in the room with a fire extinguisher whenever it was on.
Our recently purchased LG direct drive washer drier came with a 10yr guarantee. Which is nice.
9kg wash load, 6kg drier load. Very quiet, seems to wash better than out old Hotpoint. It plays a natty little tune when it's finished, and even weighs the clothes for you to decide on how long the wash is!
For any naysayers, we needed a drier due to living in the wet SW and having a toddler. Our house is no longer festooned with clothes 😉
Our previous Indesit lasted 6 years on my wife overloading it on a daily basis before the bearings finally gave up.
Bought an LG direct drive about 18 months ago.
Very quiet, and has been faultless so far (despite the continued overloading)
We replaced our 8(?) yr old Zanussi with another. Only replaced it due to the slugging of bike kit making it smell a wee bit (and me angling the waste pipe..wrong).. We paid £219 for the new one.
Why do you need to spend more?
I can't comment on the longevity but our new Samsung is incredibly good at doing the washing. Clothes coming out cleaner, much better rinsed (washable nappies shows this up because detergent residue causes leakage) and drier. Huge capacity too. Very impressed. Hope it lasts!
We also bought a Samsung Ecobubble on their recent cashback offer:
[url= http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/household-appliances/laundry-dishwashers/washing-machines/samsung-ecobubble-ww90h7410ew-washing-machine-white-10010450-pdt.html ]This one:[/url] and it's a great washing machine having previous owned only cheap Hotpoints.
I think we paid a little under £500 by the time all the discounts, offers and cashback were said and done. 5 year warranty and 10 years on the motor.
[url= http://ao.com/product/WMB91242LB-Beko-Washing-Machine-Black-21427-1.aspx?disableredirect=1&?cmredirectionvalue=Beko%20WMB91242LB_BK ]I got one of these[/url]
Been fine for the last 18 months in constant use with two young kids. It has a *HUGE* capacity so we can fly through the washing. It can fit in a king size duvet with matching bed sheets (x2) and 4 pillow cases with utter ease.
It has loads of programmes (including super-quick washes, delay timer etc). My wife says the only negative is the delicates wash isn't as good as she wanted.
And at £300 it can be binned without being too hung up about it when it does fail.
I'd buy another.
EDIT: We looked at the Ecobubble too, but it was £1k when we were looking and I couldn't justify that sort of outlay. Even now it is twice the price of the one we have and has the same capacity.
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We replaced our 8(?) yr old Zanussi with another. Only replaced it due to the slugging of bike kit making it smell a wee bit (and me angling the waste pipe..wrong).. We paid £219 for the new one.Why do you need to spend more?
Depends where you look in the value chain. Mine vs. yours (estimated based on price):
5/10 year warranty vs 1, consumes 40% less power despite being 50% bigger, consumes 30% less water, quieter, quicker (substantially with the smart check) and subjectively prettier...
Bosch, our one has been going strong for 5+ years.
Much better than the Beko the missus bought "to save money" which broke the 2nd time we used it......
And it wasn't overloaded, guy who came to collect it said they had loads breaking!
Our Beko hasn't missed a beat since we got it 18 months ago and it gets consistently good reviews. It surprises me that 'loads break' yet they get very good reviews.
It is head & shoulders above the Zanuzzi we had before in terms of functions, capacity, efficiency, capability and much, much lower in price
While my comment above stands about our Washing machine being Bosch, we did get given a Beko dishwasher from a friend who was having a complete new kitchen. This was 4 years ago and its still bang on.
Bosch - our seems permanently on & just keeps taking the punishment. It gets filled with baby clothes, her football gear, my cycling kit, shoes, dog blankets, wetsuits, outdoor gear, boiler suits and work gloves. If I thought I could get an alloy wheel in there to give it a polish I would.
By Bosch WFF 2000 is about 18 years old, I replaced the door and filter seals a few years ago and fixed a broken program selector knob.
The door seal was about £40 so I I had second thoughts about spending that on a 15 year old machine used in a very hard water area, but it has paid off.
I usually recommend Miele but they don't do fully integrated models. BSH (Bosch, Siemens, neff) models are probably next best but difficult to justify the extra cost compared to the Electrolux group (zanussi, AEG).
Take a look at a decent independent retailer who has a decent selection, hopefully you'll get some good advice then. What area of the country are you in?
Have a look here, we brought an ISE model, not a spot of bother
http://www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/buying-advice/washing-machine/2948-how-long-should-a-washing-machine-last.html
Beko, 2 year warranty as standard, ours has been faultless and only £250 integrated
Why would anyone pay £1,000 for a machine that washes clothes!!