[Closed] Nearly had a Road Rage Incident

You do not come out of this well.

Time to post this again

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Holding up traffic outside the village hall on a Sunday morning?? Hanging's too good for 'em!

You come across as the dick of this story, just to prepare you........ And learn to wait ten seconds or better still, take responsibility for your own lateness.

But bravo, you hit all the triggers for a good road rage story. You weren't in the wrong (obviously), you mentioned "chavvy", they were being boorish brutes but it's OK, you're intimidating size is all that's needed to diffuse any situation.

But at least your prementioned lateness still gave you time to blow out your chest and "look hard"

****

We can all get a bit stressed when we're in a hurry to drop the kids at the pool.

[i]He backed down a bit....So off we went.[/i]

You da winner. Get over it! 😆

Personally, I don't think you come across as a "dick", just normal. But normal ain't enough with the life heroes on STW.

We can all get a bit stressed when we're in a hurry to drop the kids at the pool.

Admit it, you actually went back while mini-you was swimming, marched into the town hall and committed a Kill Bill-esque scene and they're all in a shallow grave in your garden now.

I'm pretty sure the very same thing happened in an episode of The Vicar of Dibley, life imitating art eh.

As I drove away the less confident motorcyclist was removing their helmet and ear plugs. WTF? Is that to protect your ears from the bike noise? How do they hear what is going on?

I've done 14-15,000 miles this year on my bike, all apart from maybe 200 of that I wore custom moulded earplugs.
Yes, it's to protect our hearing, the same as you would in any potentially hearing damaging environment. I don't wanna go deaf or get tinnitus thanks. Virtually all regular riders will use plugs. It's sensible.

How do they hear what is going on?

I can hear more than you can in the car. Trust me.

Please don't criticise something you blatantly know diddly squat about.

Yes, most motorcyclists wear ear plugs. Prevents hearing damage and fatigue. You can still hear as much as you can when in a car with the windows up.

You come across as a self entitled twit.

Have to agree, OP comes across as the dick here. The fact that he can't see that is the worry.

Yeah, but why did you stop in front of him PP?

Personally, I don't think you come across as a "dick", just normal. But normal ain't enough with the life heroes on STW.

Plus 1.

Your'e not a dick OP, just normal. Idiot drivers who have no respect &/or are totally oblivious to other road users boil my water as well.
I was taking Mrs Egf to an hospital appointment a couple of weeks ago, on time & driving through Knaresborough with a line of cars behind me, when the dippy tart in front stopped, on the main road to let a car out of a petrol station. Nothing in front of her, no hold ups, but she decides to hold a line of cars up instead.
Thick. (but courteous)

But normal ain't enough with the life heroes on STW.

+1.

Since when did tooting your horn to let someone (stopped in the middle of the road) know you're trying to get past become "entitled"? 😕

Why would any road user think it acceptable to stop their vehicle in the middle of the road and walk away from it? I can understand the op's annoyance.

driving through Knaresborough with a line of cars behind me, when the dippy tart in front stopped, on the main road to let a car out of a petrol station.

[pedant]There are no petrol stations on the main road through Knaresborough[/pedant]

I'd probably have done what the op did with the initial toot but it's against the highway code and leaves you open to prosecution;

[url= http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/112 ]http://www.highwaycode.info/rule/112[/url]

[i]The horn. Use only while your vehicle is moving and you need to warn other road users of your presence. Never sound your horn aggressively. You MUST NOT use your horn

while stationary on the road
when driving in a built-up area between the hours of 11.30 pm and 7.00 am
[/i]

Odd how we all focus in on certain things. Just to set out my stall, I feel the OP going for seconds was the bit that didn't scan well. Lightly caressing the horn to point of it letting out an [url=

inaudible squeak[/url] is fine if being held up for a prolonged period of time.

We can all get a bit stressed when we're in a hurry to drop the kids at the pool.

True that. This just reminded me, a week ago I went to walk the dog out in countryside. Was dying for a piss as have a bladder thing going on. Saw a farm gate, reversed into adjacent layby/hedgerow rather too quickly. Grass was long. Reversed into drainage ditch. Tried to drive out. Wheelspin. Nearly pissed self with increasing urgency to escape to field. Mrs MR sets off with surly disapprobation at my hasty near car-wreckage and stranding. We have words. Should have just gone for a piss instead of getting into argument. Saw horse trailer people drive past into paddock up the lane. Asked for help/tow rope. No go. Saw concrete blocks near gate, asked if may borrow? Tried carrying blocks back down lane to car. Sharply reminded that I have ongoing groin-injury. Temperature rising further. Need a piss but now people are around. Sweating like crazy. Try sliding concrete blocks under wheel. Get strongled harshly by many evil brambles. Then nettles decided to join in the fray. Blood ensues.

Try to vault gate to go for a piss. Sharply reminded etc. It goes on but suffice to say I was raging internally.

#hangingoninquietdesperation

[i]Get strongled harshly by many evil brambles[/i]

I have no idea what this means but it reinforces my love for the english language.

I can understand the op's annoyance.

Same. But I can't understand going from being worried about Jr being late for swimming - which apparently was the issue - to suddenly having all the time in the world to reverse back up the road in order to save face, swimming be damned

Sounds like you need to get some help.

Ear plugs are used to reduce the hearing damage that can be caused by windnoise.(not farting, though that may depend on the rider)
Doesn't stop you hearing...

[pedant]There are no petrol stations on the main road through Knaresborough[/pedant]

Fancy a wager on that? (before you double check)

Fancy a wager on that? (before you double check)

Gary_M - Member

Why would any road user think it acceptable to stop their vehicle in the middle of the road and walk away from it? I can understand the op's annoyance.

+1.
OP toots at a bloke who stops in the middle of the road causing enough of an obstruction that others cannot get past, before leaving the vehicle in the road & walking away from it.......but it's the OP who is self-entitled!?
If the other motorcyclist & the waiting car were able to pull over sufficiently enough to not cause an obstruction, then surely this person could also?

Devil's advocate......Maybe it was an inexperience motorcyclist out for a first ride on a new bike, or something?
In that scenario, had it been me....I would have got off my bike & gone to speak to the person I was holding up, perhaps apologised & explained my reason for parking the bike in the middle of the road - "sorry, my mate's gonna move the bike; I'm not confident parking it up due to the camber of the road/leaves on the line etc....."

Gentle Beep 🙂

But I can't understand going from being worried about Jr being late for swimming - which apparently was the issue - to suddenly having all the time in the world to reverse back up the road in order to save face, swimming be damned

I imagine being verbally abused and/or threatened by a total stranger in front of his wife and kids might have made a small difference?

Shouldn't have gone back of course but I don't think the OP is the "entitled" one in this situation.

[quote=Duggan ]Since when did tooting your horn to let someone (stopped in the middle of the road) know you're trying to get past become "entitled"?

Since when there were three people there that clearly knew you were there and wanting to get past but still hadn't moved so there was obviously a problem.

I don't understand why the OP didn't just go around the stopped bike? Was it only a single lane road?

Duggan » Since when did tooting your horn to let someone (stopped in the middle of the road) know you're trying to get past become "entitled"?
Since when there were three people there that clearly knew you were there and wanting to get past but still hadn't moved so there was obviously a problem.

Come again? 😕

Fancy a wager on that? (before you double check)

got any pistols?

But I can't understand going from being worried about Jr being late for swimming - which apparently was the issue - to suddenly having all the time in the world to reverse back up the road in order to save face, swimming be damned

A little like the van driver who yelled at me for holding him up but then had a few minutes to turn around and argue with the cyclist by the side of the road. There's some pent up anger in drivers and I feel the OP may be one of them.

lol @ Jamie's efforts.

The rest is just shit, though I'm curious as to why Jimjam thinks no one's capable of fighting.

[i]I'm curious as to why Jimjam think's no one's capable of fighting[/i]

See here: 🙂
http://singletrackmag.com/forum/topic/this-morning-i-discovered-im-a-coward

Odd how we all focus in on certain things. Just to set out my stall, I feel the OP going for seconds was the bit that didn't scan well.

+1

Was it a two lane road? You just say you couldn't get past, also, you said he got off the bike, but then started pushing it. So did he go for a cup of tea while the guy was "hands on the bonnet"

Motorcyclists with earplugs will hear more than you can in your car, with your kids and wife who seems to be in charge of how you respond to other road users

I smell shite. Do you just feel the need to share but didn't know how to come out like the good guy?

like the van driver who yelled at me for holding him up but then had a few minutes to turn around and argue with the cyclist by the side of the road.

For some weird reason I used to find myself in quite a few road rage type scenarios. Most were easily diffused by pointing out the obvious - they can't be in that much of a hurry if they've pulled over to [i]'ave a word[/i]. There's the initial look of confusion quickly followed by either an embarrassed eff off or a wordless walk back to their car. Only once did one bloke go further and grab me.

I wasn't reading Guns 'n' Roses or anything so it was a bit weird...

Who told you that youre tall and are scary to look at when you're angry?

We need pictures. I call that you look like Stephen Merchant until proven otherwise.

Motorcyclists with earplugs will hear more than you can in your car, with your kids and wife who seems to be in charge of how you respond to other road users

Shots fired!

[i]Was it a two lane road? You just say you couldn't get past[/i]

How is this bit important? It's like - OP describes a scenario.. but hmm, that's not what I've got in my mind, so I'll question it! 😆

Never mind the OP, what about this petrol station.

Never mind the OP, what about this petrol station.

It's Schrödinger's petrol station. It exists, but only when you're not filling up.

We need closure on the petrol station issue

can you grab me a fruit and nut and a pasty while you're paying, ta

Not if you're in Knaresborough doris.

Re: petrol station - it comes down to definition but the A59 through Knaresborough (which is clearly the main road through the town) definitely does not have a petrol station on it. The first station you would come to is the Tesco Express in Starbeck and the one previous to that is in Green Hammerton (Skip Bridge). 😛 All the others have long since disappeared / been changed into disability scooter shops etc.

thegreatape - Member

Never mind the OP, what about this petrol station.

Interesting one this. I reckon johndoh in his haste to go into [pedant] mode has misread the original post.

egf said he was 'driving through Knaresborough' not that he was driving through on the 'main road through Knaresborough', as johndoh has misquoted.
egf does then go on to mention 'main road' but I took this to mean the 'main thoroughfare' i.e. the road with no give way requirements.
So....."I was going down the main road", where the main road is just the route that has priority....

Anyway - I am also fascinated to see who wins the petrol station wager!! My money is being on [pedant] mode being engaged prematurely without properly reading the post....

Yeh OK marmite post.

Hands up yes I was a 'dick'. Probably most disappointed I did lose my rag with these people.

I did apologise to the guy who gave me the bird - for using the horn. But I'll say again it wasn't an aggressive action - a little toot to make the other rider aware of my presence. That said I didn't realise you're not supposed to when stationary (what if someone was reversing towards you when you're stationary?!).

I was patient and waited a good while whilst the rider unmounted, stopped engine and started to remove helmet. It was only after the first guy had stood in front of my car that I noticed the rider pushing the bike into the space.

Yes it was single lane due to the cars parked. If I could have passed I would have without beeping the horn. But there was no way by.

Yes I should have left earlier. But despite all good intentions we were cutting it fine to get there on time. I'll take responsibility rather than give you the excuses.

As I said the red mist descended when I got the bird and went back for seconds. Any thoughts of getting to the pool on time evaporated.

Thank you for educating me about ear plugs. I'm not a motorcylist. I had no idea. Rightly or wrongly I assumed the less confident rider was not aware I was there because of the ear plugs. Maybe they just didn't check their mirrors.

Happy to take the criticism. Two sides to every story and it probably was 50/50 incident. I've enjoyed the funny posts especially PP parking in front of me. 🙂

So....."I was going down the main road", where the main road is just the route that has priority....

I'd agree on this one regarding petrol station wars, surely towns have lots of main roads and side roads. Looking out my office window I see a main road, but there are others in Glasgow.

Happy to take the criticism. Two sides to every story and it probably was 50/50 incident. I've enjoyed the funny posts especially PP parking in front of me.

No one's interested now, its all about the petrol station 🙂

Yeh OK marmite post.

Hands up yes I was a 'dick'. Probably most disappointed I did lose my rag with these people.

I did apologise to the guy who gave me the bird - for using the horn. But I'll say again it wasn't an aggressive action - a little toot to make the other rider aware of my presence. That said I didn't realise you're not supposed to when stationary (what if someone was reversing towards you when you're stationary?!).

I was patient and waited a good while whilst the rider unmounted, stopped engine and started to remove helmet. It was only after the first guy had stood in front of my car that I noticed the rider pushing the bike into the space.

Yes it was single lane due to the cars parked. If I could have passed I would have without beeping the horn. But there was no way by.

Yes I should have left earlier. But despite all good intentions just meant we were cutting it fine to get their on time. I'll take responsibility rather than give you the excuses.

As I said the red mist descended when I got the bird and went back for seconds. Any thoughts of getting to the pool on time evaporated.

Thank you for educating me about ear plugs. I'm not a motorcylist. I had no idea. Rightly or wrongly I assumed the less confident rider was not aware I was there because of the ear plugs. Maybe they just didn't check their mirrors.

Happy to take the criticism. Two sides to every story and it probably was 50/50 incident. I've enjoyed the funny posts especially PP parking in front of me.

That's great an all, but what's your thoughts on the petrol station situation in Knaresborough?

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Yeh OK marmite post.

Hands up yes I was a 'dick'. Probably most disappointed I did lose my rag with these people.

I did apologise to the guy who gave me the bird - for using the horn. But I'll say again it wasn't an aggressive action - a little toot to make the other rider aware of my presence. That said I didn't realise you're not supposed to when stationary (what if someone was reversing towards you when you're stationary?!).

I was patient and waited a good while whilst the rider unmounted, stopped engine and started to remove helmet. It was only after the first guy had stood in front of my car that I noticed the rider pushing the bike into the space.

Yes it was single lane due to the cars parked. If I could have passed I would have without beeping the horn. But there was no way by.

Yes I should have left earlier. But despite all good intentions just meant we were cutting it fine to get their on time. I'll take responsibility rather than give you the excuses.

As I said the red mist descended when I got the bird and went back for seconds. Any thoughts of getting to the pool on time evaporated.

Thank you for educating me about ear plugs. I'm not a motorcylist. I had no idea. Rightly or wrongly I assumed the less confident rider was not aware I was there because of the ear plugs. Maybe they just didn't check their mirrors.

Happy to take the criticism. Two sides to every story and it probably was 50/50 incident. I've enjoyed the funny posts especially PP parking in front of me

yadda, yadda, yadda.

But where was the petrol station?

[edit] darn.

Sounds like you need to buy a new car as yours seems not to have electric windows...

Shouting ensued. [b]I wound the window down[/b] and told the guy we were in a bit of a rush and I only beeped the horn to make the rider aware of our presence.

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[pedant] doesn't pressing the button wind the window down?[/pedant]

[uber pedant] wind down the window[/uber pedant]

🙂

Dicks all around? Motorbike man clearly a dick for leaving it unattended in the road.

OP - Lost his rag after initial politeness, bit of a dick move. Thing is people (apart from the saints of Singletrack) tend to become adrenalised in confrontations and react a bit daft.

Dude leaning on the car and frothing - massive dickhead

Petrol station - hiding from customers is a huge dick move

[b]adrenalised[/b] in confrontations and react a bit daft.

Highlight of the thread!

[i]Petrol station - hiding from customers is a huge dick move [/i]

The OP should have shaken hands with the riders and made up.

It wasn't like there was a huge Gulf between them.

OP, sounds like they were ****s, but I tend to be pragmatic in these situations. Firs thing to do is google one punch manslaughter and then you will realise that a bit of patience, a smile and a wave, regardless of how they are behaving is the safest, easiest and most awesome form of action. Then you can go about your business and forget about them.

Does the OP drive a Beemer or an Audi? I think we should be told.

The OP should have shaken hands with the riders and made up.

It wasn't like there was a huge Gulf between them.

maybe it was a cry for help. an Esso S, if you will.

[i]Dicks all around?[/i]

STW forum - Dick central 😆

[i]maybe it was a cry for help. an Esso S, if you will. [/i]

He'd already got a bit BP with the car horn so he wasn't suffering in Total silence

My Mrs

Found your problem.

Re: petrol station wars.

There is a Texaco that’s roughly 400m from the centre of Knaresborough.
My guess, that’s the one that was mentioned.

It’s on Boroughbridge Road, which is quite a “main” road. (By Knaresborough standards anyway)

adrenalised in confrontations and react a bit daft.
Highlight of the thread!

?

Fight or flight tends to kick in even for verbal confrontations and that results in people acting out of the ordinary. Especially when someone leans on the car and loses it. Or is it because I misspelt it with an s?

STW forum - Dick central

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Dicks all around?

no thanks, I've just had my lunch.

could of wound down the window and politely asked the other rider to ask his mate to move his bike ??
Or get a dashcam so you can record the road rage and send it in to Jamie Theakstens road rage you've been framed for £250

Can't believe I just Googled petrol station locations in Knaresborough....
I had to know!

Despite what was said earlier in the thread ...you were perfectly entitled to use your horn .
I'm assuming that the dick in front had also put you in danger of a shunt by another vehicle to the rear of your car?
The aggression to my mind came completely from the other party and in particular the bloke who laid hands on your vehicle ..
I think you showed remarkable restraint and are to be applauded.
Well done sir !
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No one's interested now, its all about the petrol station

yeah, yeah, but I'm still concerned that MR may not have had his wee yet...

It’s fine. He sneezed it out.

Malvern Rider - Member
a week ago I went to walk the dog out in countryside. Was dying for a piss as have a bladder thing going on. Saw a farm gate, reversed into adjacent layby/hedgerow rather too quickly. Grass was long. Reversed into drainage ditch. Tried to drive out. Wheelspin. Nearly pissed self with increasing urgency to escape to field. Mrs MR sets off with surly disapprobation at my hasty near car-wreckage and stranding. We have words. Should have just gone for a piss instead of getting into argument. Saw horse trailer people drive past into paddock up the lane. Asked for help/tow rope. No go. Saw concrete blocks near gate, asked if may borrow? Tried carrying blocks back down lane to car. Sharply reminded that I have ongoing groin-injury. Temperature rising further. Need a piss but now people are around. Sweating like crazy. Try sliding concrete blocks under wheel. Get strongled harshly by many evil brambles. Then nettles decided to join in the fray. Blood ensues.

Try to vault gate to go for a piss. Sharply reminded etc. It goes on but suffice to say I was raging internally.

[i]Or get a dashcam so you can record the road rage and send it in to Jamie Theakstens road rage you've been framed for £250[/i]

You expect him to go through it all again?

especially PP parking in front of me

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