[Closed] My new coffee machine just arrived

It will need to be ground for use in an espresso machine, yes. It should say on the bag. Unless they're beans?

No it's ground coffee:

http://www.whittard.co.uk/coffee/coffee_gifts_1/coffees_of_world_9x66g.htm

It doesn't say anything about espresso on the bags/box?

I reckon that'll be cafetiere grind myself, but only guessing (also one of the reviews said "cafetiere"). I've tweeted a mate who works for Whittard to ask.

If it looks like powder, then it'll be an espresso ground, if it's more like tea sized grounds, it'll be for a cafetiere/filter type affair.

EDIT: mate tweeted as soon as I hit "send post". Indeed, it is for cafetieres.

Cheers DD!I take it that you can get espresso grind coffee from Whittard? I'll probably look into has bean etc, but want to get some to try today!

Out of interest, is it just the grain size of the coffee that makes is suitable for espresso rather than filter?

That's what I'm lead to believe. Some people post on forums saying certain beans aren't strong enough for an espresso either, but at a guess that is just personal taste? I'm no expert as you can tell 🙂

I take it that you can get espresso grind coffee from Whittard?

I'm sure you can, as can you in any supermarket.

If you want something special to try for your first drink in your machine, go out and get yourself a can of Illy. (somebody will tell me it's shite of course.) You'll find at around £6 a can, you won't be buying too much of it though.

If that's a bit saucy on the price front, then a bag of Lavazza will do nicely.

Once you've found something you like, you'll probably want to invest in a burr grinder and buy beans in small quantities to grind as you make your coffee. I eventually did this (with the help of a, ahem, cheap grinder, from above mate).

Like all things in life, feel free to disappear as far as you want up your own bum. 😀

Out of interest, is it just the grain size of the coffee that makes is suitable for espresso rather than filter?

I'm no expert either, but, AFAIK, yes, it's mainly the grain size. I also believe some types of weak coffee (eg. Kenyan, some South American) aren't really suitable even if you grind it down to espresso size. Also, espresso coffee will have a darker roast. TBH though, I just try different coffees and once I find one I like, sometimes I'll make an espresso, sometimes I'll make a cafetiere from it.

There are far more on STW that know a lot more about coffee than me. But hey, it's your machine, your drink, so find what you like and go from there.

Cheers DD-who said big hitters only argue 🙂 I'm going to break my vow of not entering tesco until 2013 and buy a tin/bag of each of the aforementioned!

Your coffee machine is shit though.

(only joking) 🙂

😆

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Coarser the grind the faster the water will flow through.

Jesus tesco was a bad idea! I almost shouted at 3 different people!

I bought a tub of Illy and a bag of tesco finest fairtrade stuff to practice with. I'll report back in a short while 8)

Get ready to be shouted at by SWMBO for leaving used grinds all over the kitchen.... :-/

First try wasn't strong enough-it was a mixture of watery/bitter in equal measure! Is sugar in coffee a no no?

That's because it's mediocre coffee that is not ground fine enough to get a good pour no matter how hard you tamp it.

30 lbs of tamping pressure for a 20- 25 second extraction. Them's the roolz 🙂

Illy was much nicer....still a little quick though. More tamping required I think. I've stopped now, three espresso's 45 minutes is enough for now!

Don't drink it all silly billy. Just taste it and spit until you've perfected it. Otherwise, you'll be bouncing all over the place 🙂

Have you got the right quantity of coffee in there? Single or double (the answer should be double) filter? That plus tamping should help with the speed of pull (if the grind is right).

I think the idea is to tamp it very firmly, but not, y'know, diamond forming pressure. 🙂

I use diamond forcing pressure...espresso so thick it's like chocolate. mmm

I got a a gaggia baby for christmas. Coffee is ace but the milk frothing is taking some experimenting

I got a Gaggia Cubika Plus too. I've having a day off after yesterday's espresso frenzy which left me feeling a bit odd.

I'm running it on Coffee Direct Italian blend at the mo which is working well.

I'm bloody wired now tbh! Any tips Harry? I was only putting one scoop of coffee in...and not really tamping it too much. Hopefully i'll have stopped twitching by tomorrow and I can resume experimentation.

I'm doing 1 1/2 scoops and just tamping it flat. I got the sweats yesterday after 4 brews. 😯

4 brews?

Lightweight! 🙂

fine grind, 3/4 full bottomless filter, hard tamp and a 15 second extraction with heavy heavy crema.

Now thats how you do it 🙂

With the pre-ground Illy (The Red can or the Green for Decaff) two really level scoops tamped in with one of these heavy Wooden tampers >>
http://www.happydonkey.co.uk/coffee-tampers.html

Into a bottomless Portafilter >> http://www.happydonkey.co.uk/gaggia-domestic-portafilter.html Then you soon know if you have it right or not as it'll spray all over the place if you get it wrong or give a really great pour if you get it right.

I usually go for a light to medium roast, too dark a roast and it tastes too bitter to me.

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Hello Tom,
Think I recall you saying on the "other" Forum you were getting a coffee machine.
I just use a stove top espresso one and it makes great coffee. Have been using Has Bean Espresso Starter packs of five for some time now and IMO they are great. You may even know where the company is based as it's just outside Stafford; not that far from you really eh.

Hello Tom,
Think I recall you saying on the "other" Forum you were getting a coffee machine.
I just use a stove top espresso one and it makes great coffee. Have been using Has Bean Espresso Starter packs of five for some time now and IMO they are great. You may even know where the company is based as it's just outside Stafford; not that far from you really eh.

the "secret" is to go for ..............this will be a long tale by the way

Get a heavy weight tamper (as above from happy donkey, as is mine), a measured shot glass with a marker line on it (from HD)

Then you need to learn to make a consistent tamp to get your extraction time to about 15/20 seconds.

The pump should start and you get no coffee appearing from the filter for about 5/7 seconds.

This means the hot water is "extracting" the coffee from the grind.

Add to this mix a good burr grinder, keeping your fresh beans is an airtight "grolsh top type jar", only grinding what you need at that time, going for a bottomless filter, getting as said before a consistent tamp as well as grind then bobs your uncle.

I just use the plastic tamper that came with my machine. It's all about the pressure you apply Shirley.

Cheers Mick!

I fancy this , but way to much cash

http://www.rapha.cc/chris-king-espresso-tamper/

Pro-grade coffee tamper featuring iconic cycling style

Horse Shit.

A ponce and his money are easily parted. 😉

I use this one, despite being a ponce

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Wannabe Ponce.

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Maybe, but there out of stock, so must be a lot of ponces out there, looks like you can get a decent solid one for under £20

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I have the De Longhi 15bar espresso machine. Great after a few failed attempts!

Common errors from "Barrista Virgins" are, not enough coffee, too much water, not enough tamp.

The De Longhi has a fantastic frother, but needs a good scoop and a half, and a tight tamp to dispense half an espresso cupful ( a double)

I normally use Lavazza Qualita Rossa, ready ground, but having treated myself to some freshly ground Taylors Italian Espresso and a small bag of Java Jampit, I'm in the market for a grinder.

Can anyone tell me why I need to spend more than £35-£40 on a Krups/Delonghi/Cuisinart type burr grinder?

Advice I was given enough coffee in the portafilter such that a curved finger will level it off with the top of the filter. Then apply the tamper. There should now be just enough clearance between coffee and spray head to produce a crema.

Ok as the non coffee drinking coffee maker of the house it took a little time to master it.

Good coffee freshly ground
Make sure everything is hot including the cup
Plenty of it in the filter
Plenty of pressure
Hit the go button.
For latte etc once the milking right pour down the side of the cup.

Have a look online for some videos

Your gaggia may come with a 'perfect crema device' which is basically a shite coffee forced crema basket which should be thrown in the bin and a normal double basket purchased (if it doesn't come with one already)

May be worth keeping it if you are only going to use stale poor quality pre-ground coffee from supermarkets or anything that has a use by date (it's already stale) instead of a roasting date ( it's likely to be fresh)

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Gave up with all that faff and got a bean to cup machine

That's a tidy b to c machine

deadlydarcy - Member
I just use the plastic tamper that came with my machine. It's all about the pressure you apply Shirley.

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K,soz dude.

I just use the plastic tamper that came with my machine. It's all about the pressure you apply Shirley.

If you believe that riding bikes is about riding and U R RIDIN A SARASIN it is.

Can anyone tell me why I need to spend more than £35-£40 on a Krups/Delonghi/Cuisinart type burr grinder?

because, in my experience, the Krups is pish and will die on you before you get £1 worth of use from it.