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It was nothing like what he charged me for doing exactly the same job on my wife's car three weeks ago!
Labour charge for 2011 Golf:
Renew both rear brake discs (and pads) - £40
Renew the brake fluid - £20
Labour charge for 2012 Cayenne:
Renew both front and rear brake discs - £210
Renew both front and rear brake pads - £50
Renew the brake fluid - £50
He is taking the piss!
Are you being serious?
quicke google says hes not
That's not exactly exactly.
Nope!
If you got disks and pads on the golf for £40 you got away with murder
That's as cheap as ****!
Is just a way of telling us you drive a Porsche? 😀
that's the labour only, add £95ish for the discs and padsIf you got disks and pads on the golf for £40 you got away with murder
Not a Macan?
I think the first price for discs and pads is cheaper than you can actually get them for
Second price still seems ok for what they did
Were they Ikea dinner plates he used as discs on the golf because even tight arse wrighty thinks that's seriously cheap!
If you got disks and pads on the golf for £40 you got away with murder
that's the labour only add £95ish for the discs and pads
And that's still cheap.
Big, heavy, expensive, low-volume car has much more expensive brake parts which take longer to fit than smaller, cheaper, more common car. Any more news for us?
Edit - like others, I seem have missed that that was just the labour charge 😳 The second part of my point still stands, but I can see a bit more where you're coming from.
The post suggests these prices are for labour only.
I'm struggling to be outraged.
2nd quote is for front and back? The fronts could be a difficult/longer job and the fluid may be a different spec (or more of it).
2 different cars 2 different jobs.
Over 6 times the labour cost to change discs and pads is taking the piss. Have they shown their working?
Ah well, bet no one lets you out of junctions either.
People buy Porsches for all sorts of reasons, but show me someone who says it has nothing to do with image and I'll show you a liar - there's a downside, this is it.
Or maybe it needs a specialist tool which cost a lot of money, yeah that's it...
He's quoted the same for the fluid on both cars so same volume (ish) and quality.
Not really as parts are shared with the VW Touareg.low-volume car
In any case, brakes are brakes, they all operate in the same way and the Porsche ones are easy to remove from what I've been told (which makes me think I may do them myself).
I'll fire up the laptop when I get a minute and look at the repair times that are quoted by the Worths repair guide.
I bet the times aren't far off each other as the Porsche is probably heavy duty VW stuff underneath.
Looking at today's bill just now:
£40 ph +VAT (indy garage)
Corolla annual service, fit new front discs and pads, and take it for MoT = 4.5 hours
I emailed another local indy at the same time for their price - will be interesting to see what they come up with.
the cayenne probably has massive calipers with intricate methods of piston retraction. the golf ones probably retract with a c-clamp or screwdriver.
buy a fancy car, pay fancy prices. no suprise here.
I believe the Golf rear pistons need a special tool to retract them, Cayenne is a G clamp apparently but could be wrong.
WHat annpys me is the £50 to put new pads in when they've got to do that when they change the disc.
And 2.5x the cost for changing the fluid!
fair point but can't you remove brembos/opposing piston calipers with the pads still in, vs a single pot calpier on a slider carrier that has to have the pads out to remove the rotor
Do consider that if they do a golf regularly, its simple for them, they know exactly how long it takes. For cars they don't do often, they probably pulled the service time from a book and quoted that inacase they over run and end up overpaying their tech.
Garages here all have access to a time book. Literally every job has a time component assigned.
Say a timing belt. If it also drives the waterpump and you decide to do that also, some garages might not charge the belt disassembly time to access the pump because they are already doing it for the belt anyway, however the book will probably already include this. So, some might charge you twice for taking the belt/tensioner off to access it when they only have to once. Again, its a familiarity thing with the car in question.
If you've had previously good service, ask the garage whats up with that. They may well give you a justifiable explanation. Or, you could be right and they are taking the piss 😉
Could be a lot worse looking at the official [url=file:///home/chronos/u-7181f182c6d3e7beb52ed17d5a6b411a1e86b109/Downloads/Cayenne.pdf]pricelist[/url]
Whhhattt!!! Where? I shall go there! 😮sharkbait - Member
Labour charge for 2011 Golf:
Renew both rear brake discs (and pads) - £40
Renew the brake fluid - £20
I had two rear brake pads changed due to worn out squeaky brakes and got charge £55 (including labour plus some grease) and mine is a 2005 Toyota Corolla ... 😛
Okay that's about right ... Phew ... 😆sharkbait - Member
If you got disks and pads on the golf for £40 you got away with murder
that's the labour only, add £95ish for the discs and pads
There ... they see you coming ... 😛Labour charge for 2012 [b]Cayenne[/b]:
Best subtle "I think my wife is having an affair with the local mechanic thread" ever. 😉
Rear golf brakes are a piece of piss . 20 minutes a side if the calipers not siezed (which is common)
I take it you know cayenne has a drum brake inside the rear brake disk for the hand brake unlike the golf.
So your getting three sets of brake adjustments and if he's using price books then he will likely be quoting to change 3 sets of pads when you vaguely asked for a price for front and rear pads....
Cayenne will also likely have load sensing valve to bleed which can be a right **** to bleed if you have never done one that type of car before....there are many different types
Sharkbait?.....sounds more like a troll laying bait to me
If you don't like the labour charge either do it yourself, find another garage, or suck it up.
Nothing like an armchair mechanic!
Fair enough trail_rat.... didn't know about the valve (did know about the rest though).
The car is off to the main dealer in 3 weeks for a service which is costing no more than this labour quote alone - and that includes the materials and I get a shiny new car to play in!
It will be interesting to see what the other indy quote is.
Sounds about right for the extra faff and unknown element for a regular garage. Our local guy could fix our Porsche, but learning curve each time. One of the nearby independent Porsche specialists worked out cheaper despite higher hourly, just down to knowing their way around, the part sources and having the tooling.
Depends on the vehicle, I'd have thought. My Tame Mechanic once showed me
a classic E-type (I think) Jag he had in for brake pads one time. Step one was "remove the rear axle and diff..."
Inboard discs on an IRS Jag, Cougar, a notorious swine job