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[Closed] My grandson just gone to A&E with rash (failed the "glass" text).

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Rash didn't disappear when side of glass pressed on it. Came on suddenly at nursery and they raised the alarm as it were. Nursery said they had never seen a rash quiet like it before. He's 21 months old. He seems fine in himself.

His mum is with him at hospital now.

Anyone had their baby with such a rash, as in failed three glass test?

What can it be other than the dreaded meningitis? Aren't they jabbed against that now?


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 6:16 pm
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my lad was rushed in with similar once (he was 12ish).
It was a false alarm but the NHS were absolutely amazing, priority case, no pissing about.
Obviously its a worry at the time but they'll should be in good hands.


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 6:19 pm
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The good news is, if it has been spotted early and it is meningitis they have excellent treatments now and I am sure he will be fine.

The even better news, it often isn't but as per mrchrispy they do not piss about and will make 100% sure. The boy went to A&E with the same and a couple of doses of paracetamol and a thorough check up and he was bouncing off the walls.


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 6:26 pm
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There are lots of mimics, (for example Henoch-Schonlein Purpuraand if he otherwise looks well it is less likely to be the rash of meningococcal septicaemia. It’s actually pretty rare in current times but these rashes should always be assessed.


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 6:29 pm
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Thanks for the reassurance and info guys.

The hospital are apparently not too concerned at this stage, I mean that in a good way.


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 6:48 pm
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I should add I have had meningitis. The process was GP who took one look at rash and gave me an immediate massive shot of antibiotics in the arse and straight to A&E with a letter. He let my wife drive me but had she not been a nurse he would have blue lighted me.

On arrival a packed A&E but a flash of my letter and I was straight in and another massive shot of antibiotics and then an ambulance transfer across to the other hospital in Sheffield where the infectious diseases unit is. 7 days in there on IV antibiotics and then home.

They didn't mess about at all at any stage and I may a quick and full reocvery.


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 6:54 pm
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Tested for Covid? Read somewhere that kids were getting a rash.


 
Posted : 15/12/2021 8:18 pm
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I’ll keep my fingers crossed Poopscoop. Best wishes for a fast diagnosis and recovery for the wee man.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 12:32 am
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As mentioned there are other things that lead to a similar rash, then there is a sometimes a case it’s not actually a rash as such. He’s been spotted early and the fact he appears ok sounds promising. Hope all is well as it’s very unnerving for the family.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 5:41 am
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My daughter has been into A&E 3 times with a non-blanching rash. Turns out that she comes out in said rash when fighting off a virus...

My wife's a paramedic, and as others have said above was happy that daughter seemd healthy as the rash is generally a late sign of meningitis but we had to take her in as a precaution.

I hope it all goes well for you all!


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 6:55 am
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Good luck.

Sounds like the Nursery are on it.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 7:11 am
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Hope all is well Poopscoop.

I can also mirror what DannyBgoode said, I was taken to A&E with suspected meningitis a few years ago, sadly it's not the only time I've ended up in A&E as a priority. I know we all know someone who's spent 7,8,9, 12 hours in A&E with a broken foot, or nasty gash, but it's impossible for me to express in words the sheer amazingness of the NHS when the shit really hits the fan. It's honestly mesmerising. The speed and resources that they can bring to bare astounds me.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 10:56 am
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The speed and resources that they can bring to bare astounds me.

+1 and even when under the most extreme pressure like at the moment...


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 10:58 am
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Anyone had their baby with such a rash, as in failed three glass test?

No but I've had a little one in with suspected meningitis with no rash and so your family have my sympathies. She's done a good job of keeping A&E occupied since then so a week in the hospital doesn't seem to have put her off - but that was definitely the scariest [and the fastest turnaround - from me saying to GP "I think she's got manflu but isn't old enough for calpol" to him examining her, not even speaking to me and calling the hospital to get her in - straight to pediatrics and we had a welcoming committee waiting for us when I got there].

Aren’t they jabbed against that now?

I think only against the most common strains, and like all vaccines not everyone gets a perfect immune response.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:14 am
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Well done to the nursery staff.

Hopefully not the real thing (there are lots of other causes and the absence of other symptoms is a good thing), but they did precisely what they needed to.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:18 am
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We had this with our youngest at around 9 months and ended up in A&E. It turned out to be be HSP but it was pretty scary at the time. I hope it turns out to be nothing as others have said. Being a (grand)parent is properly stressful, isn't it?

All the best.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:29 am
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but it’s impossible for me to express in words the sheer amazingness of the NHS when the shit really hits the fan. It’s honestly mesmerising. The speed and resources that they can bring to bare astounds me.

Wholeheartedly agree.  Bit off topic but our youngest was rushed into A&E after a nasty fall, she must have been just about a year old at the time.  They were worried about her neck but couldn't find a brace for a child so small so the doctor in charge of A&E held her head in place for two hours solid whilst they carried out all the checks, scans and moved her between departments.  She did this whilst she also directed all the staff, ensured everyone was doing what they were meant to, got their breaks when they should and that my wife and I were looked after too.  I was completely overwhelmed by her professionalism and the way the whole organisation kicked into gear to ensure my little girl was properly looked after.  Felt very small and like my job was utterly insignificant in comparison.  We went back to say thank you after our daughter was discharged with a huge bunch of flowers and a massive box of chocolates but she was busy with another patient so we didn't get to say thank you in person but I hope she - and the rest of the department - understood just what an incredible job they do day in day out.  Especially now.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:31 am
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My friend's daughter did have the rash and did have meningitis, at a similar age. However, she is now 6 and you would literally have no idea - she is fab and doing great. She was ill, no doubt, but they treated it. Good luck.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:32 am
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Thanks so much for all the posts.

Glad to report he was sent home late last night.

Seems to be some sorry of viral issue bit nothing to be concerned about.

Thanks once more all and thank you yet again NHS!👍


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:34 am
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Great news OP

A friends wife is a pediatric A&E consultant, and I'm humbled by what she does.

Though I recall a party round at theirs one summer with loads of kids running wild over a very rickety climbing frame. The view was that if anyone got hurt, there were enough specialists present to deal with it, and if the worst came to the worst, one of the dads was a vet.

I don't think you can work in that environment if you don't develop a harsh sense of humour to help you cope.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 11:40 am
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There's nothing in the world to test your sanity than a baby/toddler with a random bug!


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 12:31 pm
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That’s great news. The comments about the NHS are heartwarming guys, this week has been tough on my staff. They’re all tired and quite low at the moment, they still do what they do best though and look after their patients.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 4:06 pm
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Great news Poop, and well done Drac and team. Keep your chins up!


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 4:10 pm
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I'm glad the young un's ok, the NHS is awesome.


 
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@Poopscoop - excellent news. You can never be overcautious about these things though so if in doubt with a childs rash get down to A&E - they will never mind if it turns out to be nothing. In fact with the boy they explicitly said they would much rather see a child go home within the hour and it have been nothing than the alternative.


 
Posted : 16/12/2021 5:26 pm
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^^ Thanks Danny and I totally agree with what you say. Luckily, so does my lad and his oh.👍


 
Posted : 17/12/2021 12:53 pm
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This is great news. We had the same flase alarm and trip with one of ours about ten years ago. You never forget it.


 
Posted : 17/12/2021 3:37 pm
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Good news and thanks for update. I remember the scare when one of ours turned pink when fed something new at 6 months old. Bairn mending is the best news 👍


 
Posted : 17/12/2021 5:02 pm
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Great to hear it's nothing serious. Would just like to reiterate this though:

You can never be overcautious about these things though so if in doubt with a child's rash get down to A&E – they will never mind if it turns out to be nothing. In fact with the boy they explicitly said they would much rather see a child go home within the hour and it have been nothing than the alternative.

All medical people I know will never berate you for taking in a child with an unknown issue, they don't even mind adults either! Both are much more preferable to a drunk, druggie or other problem repeat 'customer' they see day-in day-out. One of my friends was working in A&E the first week that BPW opened and she said that all of them were amazed when the first few broken riders started to turn up, almost all of them would apologise for damaging themselves or being stupid! Completely different to their regular customers.

I know we all know someone who’s spent 7,8,9, 12 hours in A&E with a broken foot, or nasty gash, but it’s impossible for me to express in words the sheer amazingness of the NHS when the shit really hits the fan. It’s honestly mesmerising. The speed and resources that they can bring to bare astounds me.

Having seen first-hand (was in there after an asthma attack) how quickly an A%E team responds to a serious RTA arriving it is indeed mesmerising. Their training just kicks in instantly, they go from calmly filling in forms, grabbing a drink or just talking to patients to absolute calm, professionalism and dedication while saving someone's life. They'll do that multiple times a day, every shift too. This leads to:

I don’t think you can work in that environment if you don’t develop a harsh sense of humour to help you cope.

If someone doesn't develop one they will struggle to cope!


 
Posted : 17/12/2021 6:06 pm

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